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What the Media Should Report About the Ames Straw Poll (Romney, Huckabee, Ron Paul)
USAElectionPolls.com ^ | 8/12/07 | David Terr

Posted on 08/14/2007 9:39:58 AM PDT by George W. Bush

What the Media Should Report About the Ames Straw Poll


David Terr
Lead Analyst
Ph.D. Math; Berkeley
8/12/07

Mike Huckabee and Ron Paul Were Clear Winners, Mitt Romney Was a Loser

"Often, however, the media do not actually interpret poll results, but instead present simple, straightforward descriptive statements about them... Measures of association, correlation analysis, and multivariate statistical analyses are virtually nonexistent" - Asher, Ohio State University

I would first like to congratulate Mitt Romney for his impressive win at the Ames Straw Poll before I start criticizing him and tell you what the media is not reporting.

Candidate Official Vote Count Percentage
Mitt Romney 4516 31.5%
Mike Huckabee 2587 18.0%
Sam Brownback 2192 15.3%
Tom Tancredo 1961 13.7%
Ron Paul 1305 9.1%
Tommy Thompson 1039 7.2%
Fred Thompson 203 1.4%
Rudy Giuliani 183 1.2%
Duncan Hunter 174 1.2%
John McCain 101 0.7%
John Cox 41 0.3%

When you consider all the money Romney had spent in order to win the Ames Straw Poll, he did not do well at all. I do not know the actual dollar amount spent by the Romney campaign but I think it would be safe to say that it was on the order of hundreds per vote. But Romney is a smart businessman, he understands that winning this event will generate tons of free positive media attention worth far more than the petty millions he spent for Ames.

I cannot give the Romney campaign the win here today because his 31% at Ames is already close to the 27% he got in the University of Iowa poll earlier this month. Compare that to Mike Huckabee who got only 3% in that same poll getting 18% here.

What's even worse for Romney is the fact that Giuliani, McCain, Gingrich, and Fred Thompson were not even vying for votes at the Ames Straw Poll yet they are included in the polls that have Romney in the high-20s. And add to that the fact that 20% of Republican voters are undecided and you should have had a slam dunk by Romney by at least a 5:1 margin over his next closest competitor.

 

Actual Results - of the Latest Iowa Polls
Candidate Univ. of Iowa ABC News ARG Research 2000
Mitt Romney 27% 26% 21% 25%
Rudy Giuliani 11% 14% 22% 13%
Fred Thompson 7% 13% 13% 14%
Tom Tancredo 4% 5% 1% 2%
Sam Brownback 4% 5% 1% 2%
John McCain 3% 8% 17% 10%
Mike Huckabee 3% 8% 1% 2%
Tommy Thompson - 4% 2% 2%
Ron Paul - 2% 1% 1%
Duncan Hunter - 1% 2% 1%
Newt Gingrich - - 4% 6%
Unsure 31% 7% 15% 22%
Other 10% 1% - -
None of these - 4% - -

So what we did is we took the last 4 poll results and removed all the votes for Giuliani, McCain, F. Thompson, Gingrich, and the Undecideds and divvied up the rest of the votes to see the percentage.

Normalized Results - Removing Giuliani, McCain, F. Thompson, Gingrich, and Undecideds
Candidate Univ. of Iowa ABC News ARG Research 2000
Mitt Romney 71% 51% 72.4% 71.4%
Tom Tancredo 10.5% 9.8% 3.4% 5.7%
Sam Brownback 10.5% 9.8% 3.4% 5.7%
Mike Huckabee 7.9% 15.7% 3.4% 5.7%
Tommy Thompson 0% 7.8% 6.9% 5.7%
Ron Paul 0% 3.9% 3.4% 2.9%
Duncan Hunter 0% 2.0% 6.9% 2.9%
Percent of Total Poll 38% 51% 29% 35%

Flaws. The flaw with this is the error in assuming that voters who favor those candidates we had removed would be distributed across the rest of the candidates in the exact same proportions. The same would be true of the way the votes would spread out with the undecideds and the decideds. The last flaw is that by removing votes you decrease the sample size which results in a grossly high margin of error as much as 9%.

Despite all of that, 3 out of the 4 polls suggest that Romney would be getting 71-72%. And by averaging all of those normalized averages, we correctly predict the Top 4 finishers in exactly the same order they came in.

Candidate Combined Normalized Average Straw Poll Average Percent Gain Net Gain
Mitt Romney 66% 31.5% NEGATIVE -34.5
Mike Huckabee 8.2% 18.0% 220& +9.8
Sam Brownback 7.4% 15.3% 207% +7.9
Tom Tancredo 7.4% 13.7% 185% +6.3
Tommy Thompson 5.1% 7.2% 141% +2.1
Ron Paul 2.6% 9.1% 350% +6.5
Duncan Hunter 3.9% 1.2% NEGATIVE -2.7

According to this estimate, Romney should have had an 8:1 margin of victory over his next closest competitor. In fact, I heard some analysts that made this exact conclusion.. they probably did something very similar to me to get their prediction.

I think the pundits that claimed Romney's win would be very comfortable hurt him in this Straw Poll. Much like when Clinton went for reelection in 1996 and all the pollsters claimed an easy Clinton victory, many voters were apathetic and just stayed home on election day. The same could have been true of Romney's supporters expecting a very comfortable win.

There is also the the likelihood that the Unsure voters flocked towards the other candidates (not Romney) in a larger proportion than the decideds did. That is very likely because whenever there is a race between a very well known candidate and someone less known, a voter being Undecided is usually a No vote to the well known candidate. The other unknown is how the Giuliani, McCain, Thompson, and Gingrich voters distributed across the other candidates. They may have supported Huckabee, Brownback, and Tancredo at a higher rate than they did Romney.

In looking at these results, Romney did more than a factor of 2 worse than expected as per the Combined Normalized Average (CNA). He was a big loser.

Mike Huckabee more than doubled his expected CNA and is obviously the true winner at the Straw Poll. Brownback and Tancredo had similar jumps but coming in third and fourth is about as good as kissing your sister.

Tommy Thompson barely moved up compared to the CNA thus he was clearly a loser. He has continuously said that unless he gets second place finish at the Straw Poll, he will not continue on with the campaign. Well sayonara Tommy because not only did you not do well but you finished sixth place.

Ron Paul showed a 350% improvement over his CNA at the straw poll and is clearly the second winner at the event. It is easy to show such a marked up win when you are only averaging about 2-3% in the polls but his polling average has been 50% lower than Duncan Hunter yet he wiped the floor of Hunter by a factor of 8. He had a raw net gain in percentage more than Tom Tancredo.

Ron Paul supporters should be very proud of his performance here. It may be reported as a horrendous performance because he came in fifth place but when you consider he was not even included in many polls just a few months ago and his poor polling numbers thus far have been keeping him down, 10% here is great.

Herbert Asher, a Political Science professor at Ohio State University, said that "continuing coverage of long-term trends, and background news is often neglected" by the media. The background news in this story is simple:

I think Ron Paul's above expectations performance is a result of the underdog theory in reporting of polls. The concept that when supporters see their candidate down in the polls, they support him with greater angst.

With Mike Huckabee, I think the above expectations performance will have far greater impact on the presidential race than anything else. Look at the front runners: Romney is a mormon, Giuliani has been divorced and dressed in drag, McCain is old and dropping... Huckabee has set himself as the clear alternative choice. He had polled as high as 8% in Iowa (ABC News Poll) and will likely see himself in double digits in the next poll. In the next few months, it is going to be interesting to see if Huckabee can oust Romney. My perception is that once voters believe Huckabee can win, some of them will drop the Romney campaign for Huckabee. Because essentially a vote for Romney is a vote for traditional christian conservative values that Huckabee brings to the table.

Call this spin or whatever else you want but this is my interpretation of the data. Leave your comments below.



TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: amesstrawpoll; asseenonstormfront; electionpresident; elections; fifthplaceloser; ia2008; paulbearers; paulestinians; preciousbodilyfluids; romney; ronpaul
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More analysis of Ames, interesting winning-is-losing slant on Romney's turnout. I did see Romney on Sunday defending his showing by saying that he was expected to win by such a large margin that many of his supporters didn't show up for a long hot day in Ames. Well, maybe so. Or maybe not.
1 posted on 08/14/2007 9:40:03 AM PDT by George W. Bush
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Ames analysis, revealing

2 posted on 08/14/2007 9:42:39 AM PDT by George W. Bush (Rudy: tough on terror, scared of Iowa, wets himself over YouTube)
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To: George W. Bush

So it all depends on what the meaning of the word “win” means?


3 posted on 08/14/2007 9:43:02 AM PDT by wastedyears (Alright, hold tight, I'm a highway staaaaaaaaaaaaarrr)
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To: George W. Bush

I think in straw polls like this churches are the best way to organize. It explains Huckabee, Brownback, Robertson . . .


4 posted on 08/14/2007 9:43:44 AM PDT by Greg F (The Congress voted and it didn't count and . . . then . . . it didn't happen at all.)
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To: billbears; Extremely Extreme Extremist; Abcdefg
A bit more. This time, how many events did the candidates make in Iowa in relation to their vote tallies. Very suggestive.

Giuliani sure didn't get much out his appearances, eh? But libmedia doesn't want to talk about that.



5 posted on 08/14/2007 9:47:21 AM PDT by George W. Bush (Rudy: tough on terror, scared of Iowa, wets himself over YouTube)
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To: George W. Bush

It often amazes me how a man who is obviously very smart can take simple facts and product such a pile of donkey dung.

It has become the norm in this age to ignore the actual numbers and attempt to reach a conclusion not supported by facts.


6 posted on 08/14/2007 9:48:38 AM PDT by Biggs of Michigan
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To: George W. Bush

David Terr
Lead Analyst
Ph.D. Math; Berkeley

Only a tenured professor from Berzerkley could claim with a straight face Ron Paul was a ‘winner’ in Ames.


7 posted on 08/14/2007 9:49:47 AM PDT by Badeye (You know its a kook site when they ban the word 'kook')
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To: George W. Bush
Huckabee and Ron Paul soared above all expectations and are on the way up.

Then it's time for a slapdown!

BTW, I strongly suspect than Paul's voters in Ames were Democrats. There were way too many Paul yard signs in Democrat yards in Ames.

8 posted on 08/14/2007 9:50:35 AM PDT by iowamark
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To: wastedyears
Or as my old daddy use to say, “Figures don’t lie, but liar's can figure.”
9 posted on 08/14/2007 9:52:24 AM PDT by OB1kNOb (Support Duncan Hunter for the 2008 GOP presidential nominee. He is THE conservative candidate!!)
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To: George W. Bush
Call this spin or whatever else you want but this is my interpretation of the data.

OK. It's spin. Romney won; to say otherwise is delusional.

10 posted on 08/14/2007 9:52:44 AM PDT by xjcsa (Hillary Clinton is nothing more than Karl Marx with huge calves.)
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To: George W. Bush

For me the real story from Ames is the 501 people who ponied up 35 dollars (one way or another) and then voted for Ron
Paul.

I would bet that Paul came in second to Huckabee for voters who pariticpated on their own accord for a candidate. Romney and Brownbeck underperformed in that regard.

5th place is still 5th place, but Voter enthusiasm counts as well, and those two had the most enthusiastic voters.


11 posted on 08/14/2007 9:56:01 AM PDT by padre35 (Conservative in Exile.)
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To: iowamark

“BTW, I strongly suspect than Paul’s voters in Ames were Democrats. There were way too many Paul yard signs in Democrat yards in Ames.”

If they were, they paid out of their own pockets to do it.


12 posted on 08/14/2007 9:58:07 AM PDT by padre35 (Conservative in Exile.)
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To: xjcsa
Yep, Romney won.

Ron Paul also dusted both Thompsons, Rudy Giuliani, and John McCain, against all expectations.

Those two pieces of data were the real news from this poll.

13 posted on 08/14/2007 9:59:14 AM PDT by Oberon (What does it take to make government shrink?)
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To: Badeye

When your a loser you settle for moral victories. He knows that America will never vote for the blame America first rosie paul.


14 posted on 08/14/2007 10:00:22 AM PDT by italianquaker (Obamas "spiritual advisor" , ." On the Sunday after the attacks, Dr. Wright blamed America.)
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To: Badeye
Another fresh straw poll from NC, reported today. Ron & Fred looking strong there in Gastonia.

Ron Paul Wins Gaston County Straw Poll

Gastonia, NC — No, Gastonia is not a country in Eastern Europe. It’s actually a North Carolina town just west of Charlotte, and tonight they had a county GOP meeting that featured fantastic barbecue at Alfred & Charlie’s BBQ House as well as a presidential straw poll. These results are just in:

John McCain: 2.4%
Rudy Guiliani: 4.9%
Mitt Romney: 7.3%
Newt Gingrich: 7.3%
Mike Huckabee: 9.8%
Fred Thompson: 31.7%
Ron Paul: 36.6%

Given how much time and money the Ron Paul campaign has spent in North Carolina, I’m sure they’ll be pleased.

While the barbecue was excellent (and I’m not even a huge barbecue fan), the best part about the evening was the opportunity for numerous “meaningful conversations”, as referenced in my previous comments. The straw poll drew Ron Paul supporters from within and outside the county, and the articulate enthusiasm of the Ron Paul crowd seemed well received by the regular attendees. After the meeting adjourned, questions about Ron Paul and his candidacy from the “regulars” generated healthy discussion for the next hour. By the end of the evening, which lasted longer then many attendees planned, there were a lot more people prepared to answer the question, “Who is Ron Paul?”

The bottom line is if you’re a Ron Paul supporter, or just beginning to explore his candidacy from outside the Republican party, don’t be intimidated to show up at GOP functions and start talking to people. We’re all living in the same world and seeing the same problems — the easiest way to identify the need and light the path for a Constitutional federal government and individual liberty is a one-on-one conversation!


This hardly merits a thread of its own but it's interesting.
15 posted on 08/14/2007 10:00:41 AM PDT by George W. Bush (Rudy: tough on terror, scared of Iowa, wets himself over YouTube)
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To: Biggs of Michigan
It has become the norm in this age to ignore the actual numbers and attempt to reach a conclusion not supported by facts.

Granted, but it also seems to be the norm these days to rebut by naked assertion. How about some evidence to support your "donkey dung" claim?

16 posted on 08/14/2007 10:02:28 AM PDT by NCSteve (I am not arguing with you - I am telling you. -- James Whistler)
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To: italianquaker

When your a loser you settle for moral victories. He knows that America will never vote for the blame America first rosie paul.

I guess. It just makes the professor look ridiculous.


17 posted on 08/14/2007 10:02:33 AM PDT by Badeye (You know its a kook site when they ban the word 'kook')
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To: padre35
For me the real story from Ames is the 501 people who ponied up 35 dollars (one way or another) and then voted for Ron Paul.

And no buses.

I would bet that Paul came in second to Huckabee for voters who pariticpated on their own accord for a candidate. Romney and Brownbeck underperformed in that regard.

Romney/Switchback each had over 100 buses.
18 posted on 08/14/2007 10:02:53 AM PDT by George W. Bush (Rudy: tough on terror, scared of Iowa, wets himself over YouTube)
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To: George W. Bush

The bottom line as it relates to me is I know who Ron Paul is, and I’m not the least bit impressed. Others are...but they are few in number.


19 posted on 08/14/2007 10:04:16 AM PDT by Badeye (You know its a kook site when they ban the word 'kook')
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To: Petronski; Allegra; All
David Terr + Ron Paul
20 posted on 08/14/2007 10:06:42 AM PDT by dighton
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