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What the Media Should Report About the Ames Straw Poll (Romney, Huckabee, Ron Paul)
USAElectionPolls.com ^ | 8/12/07 | David Terr

Posted on 08/14/2007 9:39:58 AM PDT by George W. Bush

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I’m trying to get a feel for the Freepers candidate...
Am I correct in my opinion that Romney is not too popular with FR?
My husband and I see him as the best chance we have for a win. Feedback ??
21 posted on 08/14/2007 10:07:56 AM PDT by Nav_Mom
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To: George W. Bush; Badeye; billbears

Gastonia is in a more conservative (and libertarian) part of the state. Had this same event occurred down East, say around Raleigh or Wilmington, the results would have been very different.

It is interesting, though.


22 posted on 08/14/2007 10:08:32 AM PDT by NCSteve (I am not arguing with you - I am telling you. -- James Whistler)
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To: Nav_Mom

“I’m trying to get a feel for the Freepers candidate...
Am I correct in my opinion that Romney is not too popular with FR?
My husband and I see him as the best chance we have for a win. Feedback ??”

IMO, that comes and goes, one week it’s Mitt, the next week Fred, Rudy is most certainly NOT a FR favorite and Dr. Paul really brings out the passion and flames...LOL!


23 posted on 08/14/2007 10:10:28 AM PDT by padre35 (Conservative in Exile.)
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To: Badeye

...or a Paulestinian.


24 posted on 08/14/2007 10:11:47 AM PDT by End Times Crusader (Ron Paul : No Constitutionalist No conservative No Republican - Kick him out of the GOP)
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To: Biggs of Michigan
i assume you mean the original author. exactly, he could’a wasted another hour or two to plop his “analysis” into a simulation package like @risk or crystal ball.

he would’a concluded Ron Paul was god.

doing work on a non-scientific poll is flaky. multiple special interests involved themselves with the Republican event. first, the libertarians, a group of anarchists and loopy gold standard bearers, came out for Ron Paul. then you have all the other untold groups like fair taxers for Huckabee, who is good guy and who has never served in our boondoggle of a senate.

—snip—
Fair Tax Voters Boost Huckabee
by: Garance Franke-Ruta
Saturday (08/11) at 21:28 PM

Voters bused to the Ames Straw Poll by Americans for Fair Taxation helped give a boost to suprise second-place poll winner Mike Huckabee, according to both a spokesman for the group and Huckabee campaign manager Chip Saltsman. Asked about things that might have made the difference for Huckabee, who did not bus voters to the poll and purchased about 1,850 tickets for supporters, Saltsman said, “We talked a lot about the fair tax.”

The group, better known as FairTax.org, bused about 500 voting Iowans and 1,000 other supporters to the Straw Poll today, according to FairTax.org national director of grassroots Mike Rose. The group sponsored a ferris wheel — the “Fairest Wheel,” they called it — at the Straw Poll, as well as a fan-cooled tent serving barbecue and dessert to supporters. This came on the heels of a two-week, 25-stop bus tour across the state to drum up enthusiasm for the group’s tax reform plan, which Huckabee supports. Poll winner Mitt Romney and third-place finisher Sen. Sam Brownback do not support the plan.

All told, the group spent $150,000 on the straw poll, according to national spokesman Ken Hoagland — roughly the same amount as the Huckabee campaign itself. “We’re about 6 inches off the ground,” said Hoagland. “We see it as a victory for our issue.”

—snip—

25 posted on 08/14/2007 10:14:39 AM PDT by ridge
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“Romney/Switchback each had over 100 buses.”

And Mitt’s voters didn’t really vote for him in the numbers that he paid for, he underperformed, Brownback’s (isn’t that a spider?) numbers are unknown to me, how many tickets he purchased etc...I have no idea about his actual numbers.

Ron Paul is bringing in “new” people to the political process, and those folks are very enthusiastic about supporting him as your Gastonia BBQ story shows even though it is very general as to specifics like numbers of people, previous participation in the politcal areana etc.


26 posted on 08/14/2007 10:15:33 AM PDT by padre35 (Conservative in Exile.)
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Various candidates and groups were handing out stacks of free tickets. Nobody had to buy their own.


27 posted on 08/14/2007 10:15:57 AM PDT by iowamark
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To: Nav_Mom

Romney cannot possibly beat Hillary. Religious conservatives on the whole don’t trust him, and he has driven away the liberatrians and country-clubbers by pandering to the religious right. Rank-and-file Republicans on the whole don’t really trust him because he is the governor of a very liberal state. Finally, on many issues, you will find his positions to be virtually indistinguishable from Hillary’s.

Romney is like McCain and Giuliani: a creation of the media. The media has portrayed him as a “conservative” when he clearly is not. They do so because he is a safe conservative. Remember that the media’s tactic is to pillory any Republican who gets elected, regardless of how far and fast he runs to the left, as in the case of George Bush. Romney fits that mold well since he will pay just enough lip service to the right that the media will be able to attack him without any worries that he will actually do anything meaningful.


28 posted on 08/14/2007 10:17:45 AM PDT by NCSteve (I am not arguing with you - I am telling you. -- James Whistler)
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To: NCSteve

Finally, on many issues, you will find his positions to be virtually indistinguishable from Hillary’s.

Please elaborate....I have seen no similar stances between Romney & Hillary. Can you name some?


29 posted on 08/14/2007 10:19:36 AM PDT by Nav_Mom
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To: iowamark

“Various candidates and groups were handing out stacks of free tickets. Nobody had to buy their own.”

In what numbers? Do you know or have any idea of how many were given out and to whom? Not asking to be a smat alec, more to get some sort of feel for what happened there.

And the Iowa poll does limit participation, so that would seem to bolster my “New People involved” idea.


30 posted on 08/14/2007 10:19:48 AM PDT by padre35 (Conservative in Exile.)
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To: italianquaker
When your a loser you settle for moral victories.

It must suck to type like a 3rd grader.

He knows that America will never vote for the blame America first rosie paul.

I'll take Paul as Commander-in-Chief over Romney, Huckabee, & Giuliani anyday.

31 posted on 08/14/2007 10:19:54 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: George W. Bush

Thanks for the PING George. Got the day off today!


32 posted on 08/14/2007 10:20:24 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: George W. Bush

ROFL.

This is hott. “So what we did is we took the last 4 poll results and removed all the votes for Giuliani, McCain, F. Thompson, Gingrich, and the Undecideds and divvied up the rest of the votes to see the percentage.” Sure thing.


33 posted on 08/14/2007 10:20:49 AM PDT by ridge
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To: NCSteve

I forgot to ask....who do you support for the GOP nomination?


34 posted on 08/14/2007 10:21:01 AM PDT by Nav_Mom
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To: George W. Bush
"Often, however, the media do not actually interpret poll results, but instead present simple, straightforward descriptive statements about them... Measures of association, correlation analysis, and multivariate statistical analyses are virtually nonexistent" - Asher

Given that most reporters don't know the first thing about statistics, that's a good thing.

35 posted on 08/14/2007 10:21:56 AM PDT by curiosity
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To: NCSteve

Thanks.


36 posted on 08/14/2007 10:22:27 AM PDT by Badeye (You know its a kook site when they ban the word 'kook')
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To: End Times Crusader

Yep.

The article about Ron Paul’s ‘earmarks’ was the last straw for me. What a hypocrite.


37 posted on 08/14/2007 10:23:24 AM PDT by Badeye (You know its a kook site when they ban the word 'kook')
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To: Nav_Mom
You are correct that many/most conservatives distrust Mitt because of his many years of pro-abort advocacy. He openly scorned conservatism and Ronald Reagan until just recently. I know that his positions have changed in recent months. But many fear that this is just too opportunistic and transitory.

Why do you think he is the “best chance for a win?” His personal wealth is the only strong positive I see.

38 posted on 08/14/2007 10:24:25 AM PDT by iowamark
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To: italianquaker
RP, Alex Jones, and this Prof, know how to keep the leftwing moonbat money flowing, sad.
39 posted on 08/14/2007 10:25:53 AM PDT by roses of sharon
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To: Nav_Mom
Am I correct in my opinion that Romney is not too popular with FR?

Romney's pretty popular, not as much as Fred or Duncan.

The two most hated candidates are probably Giuliani and Ron Paul. Stick around. The Paul-trolls will show up in force, obsessing at great length for hundreds of posts about how irrelevant he is. LOL.
40 posted on 08/14/2007 10:27:23 AM PDT by George W. Bush (Rudy: tough on terror, scared of Iowa, wets himself over YouTube)
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