[ricks_place]

I found more than half the claimed source data sites in Maryland for the NASA tempurature monitor analysis, have been decommissioned for years!

[weegee]

Well there are Reds at NASA in the global warming scare, but it goes to their core, not just their faces.

[AnAmericanMother]

If the sites have been decommissioned for years, where are the numbers coming from?

Making an adjustment error is one thing . . . . pulling numbers out of thin air (or even less savory places) is data falsification.

[Cyber Liberty]

I haven't seen one "Global Warming" discussion that includes reflectivity.

[Southack]

Wow!

[dead]

"There must have been some long faces."

[xcamel]

FReepmail me to get on or off
Click on POGW graphic for full GW rundown
Dr. John Ray's
GREENIE WATCH

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[sauropod]

review.

[GalaxieFiveHundred]

[Disciplinemisanthropy]

they should offer him a job at NASA.

[kitchen]

I found more than half the claimed source data sites in Maryland for the NASA tempurature monitor analysis, have been decommissioned for years!

Well, help us out here. Help us sight a cite on decommissioned sites.

[hophead]

I have a question about “global warming”.
How is oil formed? I understand it is by dead plants and animals and pressure. If this is true, why and how is there oil deposits in ANWAR and the Arctic? And in the far north of Russia?
If all this is true, it MUST mean that those areas were at some time in our history, WARM enough to sustain the vast amounts of life required to then form oil deposits. WARMER than what we see today or even farther back than the Vostok ice cores so often used in the GW arguments.
Am I missing something?

[longtermmemmory]

This is just how they crunched the numbers.

The article and DBM is NOT discussing the microclimates of the thermometer locations!

[kidd]

This article makes it sound as if McIntyre is not all that concerned with the temperature data. Nothing could be further from the truth. He deeply distrusts the fact that the NASA scientists refuse to release the method in which they have corrected some of their temperature measurements. In fact, he has strong suspicions that they’ve “corrected” data that didn’t need correcting.

[My Favorite Headache]

The histrionics were on high this morning on CNN when they were talking about the U.S. sending up Coast Guard and scientists to scout the Arctic Ocean to see if the U.S. has any rights to land up there after Russia went up there and planted their flag.

What does this have to do with this thread?

CNN says the Arctic Ocean will melt by 2050 and the U.S. wants to get in there now and grab as much oil as possible.

YIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIKES. LOL

[SuperSonic]

I found this interesting little tidbit...

Of course, the current NASA changes are only for data collected in the United States. But available surface temperature readings cover only half the planet even today. Before the Second World War, they covered less than a quarter. So U.S. readings for a period that goes as far back as 1880 are among the most reliable there are.

From this article:

Global warming? Look at the numbers

[Diver Dave]

I found more than half the claimed source data sites in Maryland for the NASA tempurature monitor analysis, have been decommissioned for years!

Well now, this inconvenient truth is gonna have ALGORE digging out his slide rule again.

[theBuckwheat]

>>
But the revisions have been seized on by conservative Americans, including firebrand radio host Rush Limbaugh, as evidence that climate change science is unsound.
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Within the last few days someone on FR kindly posted the link to the NIST document on thermometer calibration standards. There it is, in simple terms that any high school math or chemistry class student can understand: PLUS/MINUS 1 DEGREE F.

You cannot get more accuracy out of a system than the system already has. You cannot get data to the 1/10th of a degree from PLUS/MINUS 1 DEGREE equipment, especially when there are no controls on station siting.

One station I am familiar with, at the Columbia Regional Airport (KCOU) located the instrument hutch on the grass a few yards to the southwest of where two large, black asphalt ramp areas met. A reading taken when the wind was blowing from the SW would be representative of actual conditions. One taken when the wind was from the NE would have the air moving over hundreds of yards of asphalt before hitting the thermometer.

To say this instrumentation and the readings from them are “unsound” is a quaint understatement based on the photos of hutch locations posted recently.

All this does not negate any sound science, but in my opinion, the amount of sound science we can rest upon in trying to understand climate change is FAR LESS today than it was when the MSM started to slam people who deny Global Warming.

Given what we know now, any “science” based on the readings of thermometers located in hutches next to airport ramp areas and behind air conditioners in parking lots would not even pass the judges at a high school science fair, let alone be worthy of any government grants.

[longtermmemmory]

I wonder if the decomissioning of RURAL sites in favor of URBAN sites will affect temperatures.

(perhaps all the death vally thermometers are still active)

[cogitator]

From SurfaceStations.org Maryland USHCN stations

which ones are decommissioned? The closest one to me is Westminster; I was thinking about going out there to take pictures of it.

[Colorado Doug]

Why is NASA even messing with this sort of thing in the first place. They need to focus on trying to get to space, perhaps even catch up to where they were 40 years ago. They need to hire rocket scientists and build rockets and leave the weather to meteorologists at the National Weather Service. They have become just another bloated agency that is too PC to function.