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The Tip Of The Iceberg
ROAR ^ | Aug 10, 2007 | By Sterling H. Saunders

Posted on 08/12/2007 4:45:55 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

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To: Jim Robinson

Flextime is illegal?


21 posted on 08/12/2007 6:06:24 PM PDT by samtheman
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To: samtheman

Flextime is illegal?

At that time it was for salaried employees. It may have changed. But that is really irrelevant, because what the DOL did is representative of the near absolute power the bureaucrats have and wield with great glee.


22 posted on 08/12/2007 6:19:24 PM PDT by Sterling Saunders (The hardest job in the world is pushing a new idea through 1/2 inch of bone.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Doncha just love the well thought-out, even-handed administration of the laws by such half-witted morons???


23 posted on 08/12/2007 6:28:19 PM PDT by Turret Gunner A20
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To: Jim Robinson

Unfortunately those are only a few violations of our rights, the ones we know of, that have been perpetrated by our government.

I remember reading a few years ago of a older man and wife in Houston who committed suicide on the day the IRS said they were going to seize their house and janitorial business, all they owned, and sell them at auction for taxes they didn’t owe. As it turned out, the IRS was doing any such thing, just threatening.

No one in government paid any penalty for their deaths.


24 posted on 08/12/2007 6:28:29 PM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done, needs to be done by the government.)
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No one in government paid any penalty for their deaths

the only time I’ve heard of anyone taking any retaliatory action is kinda funny. Over the strident objections of the area ranchers, Fish and Wildlife reintroduced a pack of wolves into what had been wolf country. Out checking his cattle in the spring to be there to help any cow needing it to drop her calf, a rancher came upon a wolf feasting on one of his calves. He knew he couldn’t shoot it, but there was nothing that said he couldn’t rope it. He did and the horse he was riding knew how to handle things so he promptly had the wolf all trussed up. He said the only real problem he had was convincnig his horse that it was okay to have a wolf tied on its back behind the saddle. He started to go back to the ranch, but then realized he was closer to town than the ranch. He rode into town, right up to the Fish & Wildlife office, tied his horse to a parking meter, put in a quarter, took the wolf off the horse, slung it over his shoulder, marched into the office, right past the receptionist, spurs clicking on the floor, went into the manager’s office, dumped the wolf on the manager’s desk, said, “Here, this belongs to you,” turned around and left without saying another word. Sure would like to meet him.

25 posted on 08/12/2007 6:48:38 PM PDT by Sterling Saunders (The hardest job in the world is pushing a new idea through 1/2 inch of bone.)
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To: Jim Robinson
BTTT. I have been preaching for years that the demise of our Republic is rooted in the 17th amendment.
26 posted on 08/12/2007 6:55:55 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the occupation media.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Pretty disgusting. These examples are becoming the norm however.

Signed a petition to repeal the Eminent Domain statutes. Even though we don’t anything, our friends and neighbors do.


27 posted on 08/12/2007 6:56:06 PM PDT by TheSpottedOwl (If the families still ran Las Vegas, Harry Reid would be napping at the bottom of Hoover Dam)
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To: ronnie raygun

Who might that be?


28 posted on 08/12/2007 6:56:48 PM PDT by WriteOn (Truth)
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To: Sterling Saunders

Great story and so American, as America used to be.


29 posted on 08/12/2007 7:03:28 PM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done, needs to be done by the government.)
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To: PA Engineer

BTTT. I have been preaching for years that the demise of our Republic is rooted in the 17th amendment.

So, get involved. We’re going after it.


30 posted on 08/12/2007 7:12:26 PM PDT by Sterling Saunders (The hardest job in the world is pushing a new idea through 1/2 inch of bone.)
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“15. Scene, home of retired millionaire Donald Scott, Malibu, CA. at dawn. DEA agents cut a security chain, ran up the driveway with their dogs and burst into the Scott household with drawn guns, terrifying Mrs. Scott in her kitchen as she made her morning coffee. Mr Scott, awakened by his wife’s screams of terror came rushing down the stairs only to be shot and killed by our civil servants. Why had they done this? They claimed to have seen “marijuana plants growing under the trees” while flying over in a helicopter. No marijuana plants or sign of any other drugs were found. Park Rangers who had tried to purchase the Scott property so it could be annexed to an adjoining park, only to be rebuffed, were also there”


Wasn’t this one actually a little worse...
IIRC, it was a raid by the Los Angeles Sheriff on a farm that was in the adjacent county. They didn’t notify the local sheriff.

This is the same case, right?


31 posted on 08/12/2007 8:07:15 PM PDT by az_gila (AZ - need less democrats)
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To: Sterling Saunders

I hope that’s a true story.

I’d love to buy that guy a steak dinner.


32 posted on 08/12/2007 8:12:30 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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To: FreedomPoster

Bump


33 posted on 08/12/2007 8:17:36 PM PDT by dcwusmc (We need to make government so small that it can be drowned in a bathtub.)
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To: Sterling Saunders

That is hilarious. Wonder how much jail time he got for disturbing an endangered animal during its lunch.


34 posted on 08/12/2007 8:28:42 PM PDT by patton (Congress would lose money running a brothel.)
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To: FreedomPoster

I hope that’s a true story.

Looking back, it was about 14 maybe 15 years ago. I was on the telephone with a friend who lived in that area at that time. He told me about it. Per my request he looked up the Rancher’s phone number and gave it to me. I called and chatted with him for about twenty minutes. He confirmed the story just as I put it here.


35 posted on 08/12/2007 8:33:32 PM PDT by Sterling Saunders (The hardest job in the world is pushing a new idea through 1/2 inch of bone.)
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To: az_gila

This is the same case, right?

No, this one definitely was DEA and Park Rangers.


36 posted on 08/12/2007 8:48:25 PM PDT by Sterling Saunders (The hardest job in the world is pushing a new idea through 1/2 inch of bone.)
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To: Jim Robinson

It’s govt chicanery such as that which made a libertarian out of me. Oddly, the 17th amendment never presented itself as the cause of the problem, though. Can’t say as I see the connection now, either.


37 posted on 08/12/2007 9:37:56 PM PDT by gcruse (Let's strike Iran while it's hot.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Your links leads to the ROAR website. Are you affiliated with ROAR? I’ve never heard of them before. I don’t see anything at their website related to what you have posted, but I do see they are asking for money. $$

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“But we can’t do it unless you help. Figure out what you can afford. What we can’t afford is to do nothing. But if you’ll help us, we’ll get it done.”

“It’s up to you. Make your check or Money Order payable to ROAR and send it to the address below. Be sure to include your Email address so we can keep you informed of progress.”


38 posted on 08/12/2007 9:42:28 PM PDT by Chena (If you're not fair and balanced it's highly possible that you're unbalanced.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Back when there WAS a Sacramento Army Depot...

At the Sacramento Army Depot there was a mass of hazardous waste that was mixed before the hazardous waste laws were passed.

The waste products were too mixed up to label and dispose of “properly,” so the Depot was fined thousands each day—”until it disposed of the waste in the proper manner.”

Because of the state of the waste it could not be disposed up “in the proper manner;”
therefore, it could not be disposed of;
therefore, it must remain where it was in its mixed state and cost the Depot HUGE daily fines.


39 posted on 08/12/2007 9:45:15 PM PDT by bannie (The Good Guys cannot win when they're the only ones playing by the rules.)
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To: Jim Robinson

I Googled “Roar” and see that you posted a thread about them recently. I’ll have to do some research. I’m sure if you’re this interested it must be fascinating.

“We just met Sterling when he attended our recent online VetsCor board meeting. I thought he had some interesting arguments for repealing the 17th, so asked him if I could post this material. I’m hoping he’ll come on to the thread to answer questions and continue the debate.”

19 posted on 08/05/2007 7:27:06 PM AKDT by Jim Robinson (Our God-given unalienable rights are not open to debate, negotiation or compromise!)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1876883/posts?page=12#12


40 posted on 08/12/2007 9:47:42 PM PDT by Chena (If you're not fair and balanced it's highly possible that you're unbalanced.)
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