Posted on 08/12/2007 3:55:34 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
By the time the writing of this sentence is finished, Tommy Thompson should be out of the presidential race. The 67-year-old former Wisconsin Governor and Bush cabinet member had been unusually honest in playing the expectation game before todays Iowa Straw Poll.
I've said all along that if I don't come in first or second, I'll drop out of the race,'' he reminded the media earlier this week.
Well, the votes are now in and tallied, and Mr. Thompson came in sixth.
If this does indeed mean death-by-straw-poll for the Thompson effort, it can be considered a mercy killing. His campaign has been hard to justify all along: There had been no clamoring for him to run; his welfare reform glory days in Wisconsin came more than a decade ago; and his soporific style and generic message made him an invisible presence at debates.
Saturday, August 11 marked the fourth renewal of the Iowa G.O.P. presidential straw poll, a tradition of questionable integrity that was conceived in 1980 and now serves as a quadrennial test of early organizing strength and volunteer energy for candidates in the lead-off caucus state. George H.W. Bush used a surprise victory in 1979 to establish himself as Ronald Reagans chief rival for the nomination; Pat Robertson notched a stunning triumph in 1987 that foreshadowed his second-place caucus showing months later; Bob Dole failed to meet expectations in 1995, foreshadowing his weak three-point win on caucus day; and George W. Bush cemented his front-runner status with a commanding win in 1999, sending three candidates packing within days.
The 2007 straw poll, though, was not about who would win that slot was ceded to Mitt Romney when Rudy Giuliani, John McCain, and soon-to-be candidate Fred Thompson all declined to participate.
Still, Mr. Romney spent lavishly, and his campaign sought to downplay expectations in the run-up to Saturday, hoping to generate media coverage of a surprisingly strong showing. Whether the media will take the bait is unclear, but the 31 percent he won seems perfectly in line with the financial and organizational supremacy he brought to the event.
The real drama was the undercard the scrapping by the seven non-Romney candidates (eight, if you count businessman John Cox, making a rare on-stage appearance with the G.O.P. contenders) to free themselves from obscurity with a stand-out showing and to avoid the fate that Mr. Thompson now likely faces.
Perhaps the most riveting sub-contest was between Mike Huckabee and Sam Brownback, each seeking to be the standard-bearer of the religious conservatives who hold disproportionate sway in the caucuses (and at the straw poll as well). Neither has raised substantial money and both struggle in polls, although Mr. Huckabee, an ordained minister with a quick wit and knack for public performance, is now creeping up near 10 percent in Iowa surveys. (Mr. Brownback, meanwhile, was seen as better organized for the straw poll.) Saturday was seen a potential elimination match between them.
Mr. Huckabee, whose cash-strapped campaign was unable to provide the kind of flourishes others did, seemed to bank on his compelling oratory swaying soft delegates who had been shipped to the straw poll by other campaigns. (It is a secret ballot, after all). I cant buy you -- I cant even rent you, he told the crowd.
The preacher mans words did seem to strike a chord, as he brought the hall to silence with an account of the visit he and his daughter took to Yad Vashem, the Israeli Holocaust memorial.
Mr. Brownback, on the other hand, went last among the nine candidates, addressing what on television appeared to be a nearly vacant arena. He stuck to the familiar religiously conservative themes of his campaign, although his delivery was hardly as strong as Mr. Huckabees.
Perhaps the difference in their speaking styles did make a difference: Mr. Huckabee, in what may be the biggest headline from the straw poll, finished second with 18 percent, ahead of Mr. Brownbacks third-place 15 percent showing. Clearly, the showing boosts Mr. Huckabees effort and guarantees him a long-term place in the race. But Mr. Brownbacks performance is probably solid enough to keep him in the race.
Mr. Huckabees surprise is probably a good development for the G.O.P.: He is easily the stronger general election candidate of the two. (A case can even be made that hes the best fall candidate of the entire Republican field).
The numbers mean different things for the rest of the candidates.
Ron Pauls nearly ten percent of the vote, good for fifth place, could certainly be described as respectable, although it was not the breakthrough (read: second-place or strong third place) performance that would have elevated the medias interest in his grass-roots army from mere curiosity to front-page fascination. What Dr. Paul probably proved is that his national supporters are more devoted than those of any other candidate media reports noted the number of Paul supporters in Ames with far-out-of-state license plates. But for all the fervor, his network of support within Iowa needs to grow. (Interestingly, Dr. Pauls campaign may be able to claim that the fix was in at the straw poll, after the controversial, paper tail-less Diebold voting machines they had railed against malfunctioned and delayed the results by an hour.)
Duncan Hunter finished a god-awful ninth, behind even Mr. Giuliani and Mr. McCain, who didnt show up. The terrible showing was hardly surprising after the lukewarm reception Mr. Hunters introduction received and after he delivered a speech that sounded as if he were reading remarks into the record at a House Armed Services Committee. The results only confirmed what has been known about the 60-year-old San Diegans lifeless campaign: Hes doomed. And yet its conceivable hell plod on. Unlike Mr. Thompson, who was thought to have a national future back in the mid-1990s, Mr. Hunter was never supposed to play on this stage in the first place. Hes giving up his House seat next year anyway (and hoping to hand it off to his son), so why not spend the next few months being humored by the emcees at Iowa and New Hampshire G.O.P. events who introduce him (as he was today) as the next President of the United States?
Where Tom Tancredo goes from here is uncertain. His performance fourth place with 14 percent hardly qualifies as a breakthrough, though its also hardly disastrous, considering the lack of money and attention his campaign has so far generated. On Saturday, he used a red meat-laden speech (casting aspersions on the NAACP, all but endorsing war crimes with his bluster that I have one rule of engagement: We win, you lose, and declaring that Judeo-Christian Americans are locked in a clash of civilizations with Muslims) to fire up the crowd, taking advantage of his position as second in the speaking order before most of the crowd emptied out, as it did before later speeches. Similar oratory might help Mr. Tancredo register on caucus day (a respectable-for-an-obscure-congressman 10 percent showing, say) but Iowa is the only state where he could conceivably do that well. He probably did too well at the straw poll to drop out, even though hes going nowhere.
Yeah - kind of like the devil telling us to choose the “red” door.
http://www.outlawjournalism.com/
He really is a kook
I didn’t note any slamming. I thought it was a decent article, though written from a horse-race type perspective.
I’ll repeat: You Hunter fans are not contributing, in the end, to Duncan Hunter, but to his son. All of Duncan’s money is going into his PAC, and when he drops out, his PAC money will be given to his son’s campaign [which is certainly legal]. There’s nothing wrong with that, except that you need to be aware that his son is who you’re really donating to. If you live in California, it’s a good thing to have a Repub elected. If you don’t live in California, your donation is doing you much less good. [Note: This is my opinion, and my opinion only.]
You didn’t see these examples as “slamming?”:
“On Saturday, he used a red meat-laden speech (casting aspersions on the NAACP, all but endorsing war crimes with his bluster that I have one rule of engagement: We win, you lose, and declaring that Judeo-Christian Americans are locked in a clash of civilizations with Muslims) to fire up the crowd...” or “The preacher mans words did seem to strike a chord..” or “Perhaps the most riveting sub-contest was between Mike Huckabee and Sam Brownback, each seeking to be the standard-bearer of the religious conservatives who hold disproportionate sway in the caucuses (and at the straw poll as well).”
My opinion, too, Clara Lou.
That looks like a site Siobhan would frequent — and I’m not kidding.
Why is it that Ron Paul attracts all of these types? Coincidence? I think not.
I think that Romney was smart to pour so much time, energy, and money into this first vote. Now he’s a proven winner, and you know how we Americans love winners.
Now he’s the man to beat.
How can that be? Oh, right. It's the left-wing media's fault. Y'know, I like Ann Coulter, but I guess it's becoming clear that she's no king-maker.
I’m not ready to go that far. I will say that Mitt Romney got some momentum and publicity. But it’s only a minor bump for him.
Ah, the pertinent question, at last.
My more complete answer is right HERE
Excerpt:
Sorry, students havent gone through twelve years of public school for nothing.
Theyve learned one thing and perhaps only one thing during those twelve years.
Theyve forgotten their algebra, theyve grown to fear and resent literature, they write like theyve been lobotomized, but Jesus, can they follow orders!
Students dont ask that orders make sense because they gave up expecting things to make sense long before they left elementary school.
the Matrix is here
Now hes the man to beat.
LOL! Yeah, all of those delegates will be unstoppable! Oh wait.
Nothing that happens in Iowa or NH is worth a cup of warm spit after Florida and SC usher in Super Tuesday.
The major candidates are wise to ignore them, or at least not dump money into it, at this point.
It raised $35 per voter for the RNC.
http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig5/raimondo2.html
“Proven winner”? A straw poll? In your dreams! This straw poll, for the front-runners is strictly page A-12 material. It means little. The only ones for whom it’s significant are those who show poorly—Hunter, Thompson, etc. The poll shows that they can’t even win a straw poll.
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