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Should a Web Site Post Best Ideas for Successful Terrorist Plots?
Fox News ^ | Friday, August 10, 2007 | John R. Lott, Jr.

Posted on 08/12/2007 9:54:18 AM PDT by Washingtonian

Should a website post the best ideas for successful terrorist plots? Should we even discuss publicly how to stop terrorist attacks? This week, New York Times blogger Steven Levitt publicly posted terrorist plot suggestions. He claims that “by getting these ideas out in the open, it gives terror fighters a chance to consider and plan for these scenarios before they occur.”

Levitt clearly assumes that terrorists have already figured out the best ideas, but that our side has not. If anything, the reverse is probably true. There are vastly more Americans than terrorists possessing detailed information on American infrastructure, traffic flows, policing practices, etc. So terrorists could easily learn something. To make matters worse, there are also many home-grown mental basket cases who could get ideas on how to obtain worldwide attention.

Many people have commented on Levitt's post by suggesting a Web site on how to catch terrorists more easily. But even that is as problematic as terrorism, just like war, is similar to a chess match where both sides try to plan many moves ahead. Terrorists have a strategy; we try to anticipate; in turn, terrorists try to account for our defenses; and so on.

Two points are clear. Terrorists can change their plans, and there is a very long list of vulnerable targets all across the United States.

A few years ago we had information that the New York Stock Exchange was being specifically targeted by terrorists. Suppose, for the sake of argument, that we figure out some way to protect the New York Stock Exchange from virtually every type of attack. Would publicizing such a fact make America safer? Hardly. Telling the terrorist that fact would simply mean that was the one place terrorists wouldn't attack. The NYSE is an obvious target, but there are important financial centers, such as the Chicago Board of Trade, in other cities.

Indeed, it would be in our best interests as a nation to fool the terrorists into believing that we had not figured out a way to protect the NYSE. That way, they would be exhausting their resources and get disillusioned as their efforts to strike at Americans failed.

But let's analyze Levitt’s own suggestion for the terrorists coming from his father is “ . . . to arm 20 terrorists with rifles and cars, and arrange to have them begin shooting randomly at pre-set times all across the country. Big cities, little cities, suburbs, etc. Have them move around a lot. No one will know when and where the next attack will be. The chaos would be unbelievable.... ”

Surely, the DC area sniper attacks must be something that the terrorists have already thought about, but Levitt is wrong about the consequences of such an action. He argues that generally in Israel, “If terrorists want to engage in low-grade, low-tech terror, we are powerless to stop it.”

Israel has indeed had remarkable success in stopping terrorist gun attacks. Israelis realized that the police and military simply can't be there all the time to protect people when terrorists attack. There are simply too many vulnerable targets. And even when the police or military are nearby, terrorists wait until the police and military leave the area before attacking. If attacks still go forward, those who are openly carrying a gun for protection become the first targets that the terrorists try to take out.

So how did Israel solve the problem? By encouraging Israelis to carry concealed handguns. After the policy changed in the early 1970s, terrorist gun attacks have been rare.

Today, about 15 percent of Jewish adults in Israel have permits to carry concealed handguns. Thus in large public gatherings, many citizens — who are unknown beforehand to the terrorists — are able to shot back at terrorists. During waves of terror attacks, Israel's national police chief will call on all concealed handgun permit holders to make sure they carry firearms at all times.

In contrast, about 5 million Americans across 40 states have concealed carry permits, just over 2 percent of the adult population. In other words, concealed handguns would have to be about 7 times greater in order to get up to the same level as in Israel.

Still, even at this lower level, U.S. concealed handgun use has had a beneficial effect against the types of attacks most similar to terrorist attacks — multiple victim public killings. Bill Landes of the University of Chicago and I studied all the multiple victim public shootings in the United States from 1977 to 1999. We found that deaths and injuries from multiple-victim public shootings fell by 80% after states passed so-called “right-to-carry” laws. To the extent to which attacks continued in those states, all but the smallest attacks took place where concealed handguns were banned.

Levitt thinks that the most likely reason that the US hasn’t been hit with a terrorist attack since 9/11 is that “the terrorism threat just isn’t that great.” But what if he is wrong? Unless he only posts ideas that are already well-known and relative ineffective, such as the shooting spree idea, he could potentially do great harm.

* John Lott is the author of Freedomnomics and a senior research scientist at the University of Maryland.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Government; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: johnlott; looselips; newyorktimes; nyt; sedition; stevenlevitt; weblogs
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1 posted on 08/12/2007 9:54:23 AM PDT by Washingtonian
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To: Washingtonian

I don’t know about anyone else,but if the situation deteriorates to the point that I feel I need to carry a gun-I’ll be armed with or without permission of thr government.


2 posted on 08/12/2007 10:08:14 AM PDT by Farmer Dean (If there's lead in the air,there's hope..)
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To: Washingtonian

“Should a website post the best ideas for successful terrorist plots?”

For a good perspective on the usual First Amendment justification for the website, why don’t we also post the best ideas for whacking journalists?


3 posted on 08/12/2007 10:08:28 AM PDT by DPMD (dpmd)
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To: Farmer Dean
You may want to initiate the process sooner than later. Points to ponder:

Do you own a firearm?

Are you trained in proper handling and safety?

Do you have a concealed carry permit?

Are you an NRA member?

4 posted on 08/12/2007 10:18:45 AM PDT by Cobra64 (www.BulletBras.net)
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To: Washingtonian
“Should a website post the best ideas for successful terrorist plots?” NO! Judging from what we see in the case of many of the captured terrorists, these people are not too bright. They need someone else to come up with their ideas. Even what successful terrorist attacks there have been mostly came from the same few intelligent terrorist planners. Mostly, now, these folks are dead. Thanks, to the good work of the USA military. The long story short is that a highly technological society is extremely vulnerable to a variety of simple attacks by knowledgeable people. Let's not give the terrorists knowledge where they do not possess it.
5 posted on 08/12/2007 11:00:34 AM PDT by rgboomers (This space purposely left blank)
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To: rgboomers

You make some valid points but also consider this:

With the too-numerous-to-know possible terrorist targets, the best way to find our weak links are to use a system similar to the free market (another name for biological computing).

By sifting though thousands of random thoughts from the general public, one will find a few previously un-thought-of attacks and can learn to defend against them.

The results don’t need to be published for the the terrorists to learn from however.


6 posted on 08/12/2007 11:21:25 AM PDT by live+let_live
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To: rgboomers

You are exactly correct. One of the things our enemies lack is a sophisticated understanding of how our society works. It is absolutely insane to give them this information for free. It has the potential to make their planning much easier, and their attacks much more effective.


7 posted on 08/12/2007 11:27:49 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain
One of the things our enemies lack is a sophisticated understanding of how our society works.

You are so right! We must be very careful not to let the terrorists know that our entire society would disintegrate if we were to lose such intellectual luminaries as New York Times blogger Steven Levitt.

8 posted on 08/12/2007 11:58:01 AM PDT by joshhiggins (O you who believe! do not take the MUSLIMS for friends)
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To: Washingtonian
I am re-reading The Black Swan by Nassim Nicholas Taleb. I'd like to quote exactly, but I can't find the exact spot where he suggests that the reason we were so susceptible to a 9-11 event is our lack of imagination when it comes to the possibility of a Islamic attack, including the basic fact that we are not fighting generic terrorists, who might, in fact, wish to survive their attacks and so may pull back on the degree of severity, but Islamic fanatics, who consider dying for their cause part of the effort, and so have no consideration of limiting the severity of their attack even to save their own skins. I recommend the book, while disagreeing with at least one of his premises.
9 posted on 08/12/2007 12:11:45 PM PDT by Excellence (Three million years is enough! Stop cyclical climate change now!)
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To: joshhiggins

Shhh! You are exactly right. Steven Levitt one of the few remaining protections the West has against full takeover by the Islamist hordes. We clearly can’t afford to lose such a brilliant and original irrationalist.


10 posted on 08/12/2007 2:05:32 PM PDT by NHResident
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To: Washingtonian

Loose lips sink ships.

Report all credible suspicions to the FBI, ICE, and of course, local law enforcement. When I say credible, it’s when you see something very wrong with your own two eyes. Don’t waste their time otherwise.

Thought provoking article.


11 posted on 08/12/2007 2:35:36 PM PDT by TheSpottedOwl (If the families still ran Las Vegas, Harry Reid would be napping at the bottom of Hoover Dam)
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To: Washingtonian

I remember some article somewhere sometime that was about a group of science fiction writers that our government would gather together and let it all hang out. No idea was too crazy or far out.

Their focus was warfare and our vulnerabilities to attacks.

One would hope they are still doing something like this.


12 posted on 08/12/2007 2:45:35 PM PDT by listenhillary (millions crippled by the war on poverty....but we won't pull out)
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To: listenhillary

People would be naive to think that we do not have brainstorming groups who do nothing all day but to think up terrorist scenarios and come up with solutions to stop them from happening.

We used to do this when we were drunk. “OK, if I was to do “X” how would you defend against it?” We came up with some scary stuff, but also came up with some very creative solutions.


13 posted on 08/12/2007 2:51:48 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (When O'Reilly comes out from under his desk, tell him to give me a call. Hunter/Thompson in 08.)
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To: Washingtonian
If I was interested in throwing down, I sure the hell wouldn't’t be posting to some numbnuts website.......I’m sure the FBI is getting quite the laugh, and more then one or two new isp numbers...;)
14 posted on 08/12/2007 3:07:27 PM PDT by ScreamingFist (Annihilation - The result of underestimating your enemies. NRA)
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To: Washingtonian

no, No,and NO. Very bad idea.


15 posted on 08/12/2007 3:10:06 PM PDT by Brandie (Duncan Hunter in 08')
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To: Washingtonian
Thanks

A bad idea is a bad idea.

I can remember when Rod Sterling very publicly apologized - on air - for the very first air hijacking - very soon after the subject was aired on the Twilight Zone.

16 posted on 08/12/2007 4:58:37 PM PDT by ASOC (Yeah, well, maybe - but can you *prove* it?)
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