Posted on 08/10/2007 10:33:17 PM PDT by neverdem
I should have posted this in a more timely manner.
Similar article posted here:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1878920/posts?page=81
From RealClimate - “2001-2006 (at 0.66 ºC) is still warmer than 1930-1934 (0.63 ºC - the largest value in the early part of the century)
So recent 5 year temps in the US have been a mere 0.03C greater than in the 1930s. Hmmmm.
Well, whadda ya know!
very interesting BUMP
I was curious about an event I believed happened about this time. The dates coincide.
"The drought hit first in the eastern part of the country in 1930. In 1931, it moved toward the west. By 1934 it had turned the Great Plains into a desert."
Ought to be entertaining.
In the meantime, I'll have another manatee steak. Medium rare, please.
Yeah. Considering how this data is collected, does any serious person truly believe that these distinctions are beyond the margin of error? I mean, they have to be well within the margin of error. I just don't believe we have such well-controlled data that we can know whether it was a degree hotter or colder a hundred years ago. I don't even have that much faith in the recording of yesterday's tempurature. Imagine if the weatherman came on the TV tonight and said, "Sorry folks. Yesterday I said Thursday's high was 75, but actually it was closer to 74." You would ask, "Is he being serious?"
I gave it to Phil Valentine early today. 8/11 (Talk radio in Nashville) I don’t know if he discussed it though.
review
I would not be just a nuffin’
My head all full of stuffin’
My heart all full of pain
I would dance and i’d be merry
Life would be a ding-a-derry
If I only had a brain
a. g.
The Scam Artist.
They use their dry run hoax to adjust their GW hoax. Nice!
They already scored their political points by the fear they were able to generate with the old numbers. By now reducing those numbers, they create a cooler base point for which to generate temperature fear in the future.
They fudged the number upwards so much that they hit a ceiling and they could no longer keep falsifying the data to show increasingly higher temps and they need to show increasing temperatures or the hoax fails. This convenient readjustment gives them a little wiggle room.
Ground temperature readings are a very inaccurate method of predicting global warming. To really show a baseline you have to have readings of the entire atmosphere at multiple intervals, say.. every 100 ft or so. Currently it is not possible to achieve such a reading so it is fair enough to say we CANNOT posit any valid theories on the the future weather patterns. For example, I can change the temperature locally by laying a thermometer on a painted board. This shows man can affect the temperature but is quite dishonest to base further conclusions on this knowledge.
Rush stated a study yesterday, that said 5 out of the 6 hottest years on record were prior to WWII.
LLS
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I read Rush's transcript. He was very sloppy with a lot of things, but I don't think he said 5 out of 6. It was 5 out of 10.
Anthony Watts put together the following:
Top 10 GISS U.S. Temperature deviation (deg C) in New Order 8/7/2007
Year Old New
1934 1.23 1.25
1998 1.24 1.23
1921 1.12 1.15
2006 1.23 1.13
1931 1.08 1.08
1999 0.94 0.93
1953 0.91 0.90
1990 0.88 0.87
1938 0.85 0.86
1939 0.84 0.85
Heres the old order of top 10 yearly temperatures.
Year Old New
1998 1.24 1.23
1934 1.23 1.25
2006 1.23 1.13
1921 1.12 1.15
1931 1.08 1.08
1999 0.94 0.93
1953 0.91 0.90
2001 0.90 0.76
1990 0.88 0.87
1938 0.85 0.86
You are correct. The conclusion is the same though!
LLS
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