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Why Do They Hate Us?
slate ^ | Monday, Aug. 6, 2007 | Reza Aslan

Posted on 08/09/2007 8:38:09 AM PDT by machogirl

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To: machogirl

But in answer... they hate us because their slavish devotion to their moon-god cult with it’s lying murdering pedophile prophet has caused them to be left in the dust of the twentieth century, never mind the twenty-first. And because they have identified as the cause of this falling behind a lack of faith in allah and his false prophet, rather than seeing allah and his false prophet and his hypocritical misogynist imams and mullahs and theocrats as the source of their misery.


81 posted on 08/09/2007 9:48:24 AM PDT by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: CSM

Thanks, I think. :)


82 posted on 08/09/2007 9:49:08 AM PDT by Veto! (Opinions freely dispensed as advice)
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To: Names Ash Housewares
“They hate us for our freedoms.” Bush is right. They hate us because we are free.

Seriously I talked to one of 'them' the other day. One of 'them' works in the office near me. He explained to me quite clearly why 'they' (specifically 'him') hates us. Something to do with discontinuing the making of Rubik's cube and a massive growth in the number of ATMs but I didn't believe 'him'. He didn't say 'your freedoms' so I knew 'he' must be lying....

We are free to choose to STAND IN THEIR WAY and their facist goals and defend freedoms for all. That tends to make them upset. LOL

Yes!! Because if we weren't standing in their way, they'd load their ships, troop transports, and various military forms of transportation with all the weapons, men, and equipment needed to overtake and occupy these United States....oh rats. They don't have any of that do they? So exactly what are 'we' standing in the way of 'them' doing? How do 'they' plan to get enough over here to do anything more than a one-off minor (in the scheme of things) attack?

83 posted on 08/09/2007 9:53:07 AM PDT by billbears (Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it. --Santayana)
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To: machogirl

Do I Look Like I Give A F*ck..... DILLIGAF!

Clauses:

Do I Look Like I Give A Sh*t (DILLIGAS)

and

WTFO : What The F*ck Over?


84 posted on 08/09/2007 9:54:33 AM PDT by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: machogirl

Why do they hate us?

Why don’t I care..?


85 posted on 08/09/2007 9:56:13 AM PDT by prairiebreeze (PUT AMERICA AHEAD! VOTE FOR FRED!!)
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To: monday
If they aren’t killing non Muslims they are killing each other.

Exactly, which is why there never will be any peace even if the whole world *submits* to islam. Once they're done with the infidels, they'll turn on each other.

86 posted on 08/09/2007 9:58:38 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: EQAndyBuzz
They hate us because we represent decadence and immorality.

They hate us because they THINK we represent that. I'm not arguing your other points. We do put the wrong things in the forefront in the name of democracy; but they've hated Christianity for longer than we've been around and we represent Christianity and the success that can result from that.

87 posted on 08/09/2007 10:02:15 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: machogirl

The author fails to make the obvious inference from his own data: if the complaints of al-Queada are unfocused and all over the map, if they have no logical coherence, if they are merely intended to muster as many anti-American and anti-Western sentiments into one bundle as possible, then their purpose is clear: they are tools of propaganda, aimed at undermining the resistance of the West, by getting Western liberals, such as the author, to think that we, the West, or George Bush, are the problem. The author can’t see the clear implications of the very data he is touting.


88 posted on 08/09/2007 10:11:22 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle ("Above all, shake your bum at Burton.")
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To: rlmorel
"For example: they hate us because we have military bases on Saudi soil. We leave. They find some other excuse."

You get it, the author doesn't. It's all propaganda directed at the West, to undermine our resolve, and liberals fall for it, conservatives see through it.
89 posted on 08/09/2007 10:14:58 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle ("Above all, shake your bum at Burton.")
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To: HitmanLV

They don’t want their wives in lowrider jeans and becoming desperate housewives. They don’t want their daughters in tight clothes and going commando for the night, like Britney did a while back. They don’t want our music and our media polluting their culture

I can’t really blame them for hating some American lifestyles-well they hate all of them I suppose.

But they don’t have the right to kill the non-muslim world for any of their crappy beliefs, including their hatred of our culture.


90 posted on 08/09/2007 10:18:07 AM PDT by Califreak (Go Hunter!)
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To: EQAndyBuzz
"They hate us because we represent decadence and immorality. We put abortion, drug abuse, homosexuality and crime at the forefront of our freedoms while destroying the rule of law."

They hated us long before the rise of gay rights, legal abortion, the sexual revolution, and MTV. They hated us in the days of Benny Goodman and Rosemary Clooney. They hate us because we aren't Muslims. Period. Everything else is just excuses and propaganda.
91 posted on 08/09/2007 10:19:03 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle ("Above all, shake your bum at Burton.")
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To: Califreak

Of course their problems with our culture isn’t a license to kill. But they are willing to kill over it just the same.


92 posted on 08/09/2007 10:21:35 AM PDT by HitmanLV ("Lord, give me chastity and temperance, but not now." - St. Augustine)
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To: metmom
They hate us because they’re jealous, just like anyone hates someone richer and more well off than they are.

And that's the same reason leftists hate America, hate business, hate SUVs, hate anyone with anything that reminds them they are not the center of the universe. I haven't figured out why they don't hate the good looking yet. It's ok to be better looking than others but not smarter or richer.

Technically the term isn't hate, it's resentment that occasionally boils over into hate. And the term isn't jealous. That word involves 3 people. It's really envy, the only deadly sin that's no fun at all.

93 posted on 08/09/2007 10:32:50 AM PDT by Reeses (Leftism is powered by the evil force of envy.)
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To: machogirl
Aye, Lass, ye must display the colours. Tis your heritage now that we're talking about.

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94 posted on 08/09/2007 10:38:39 AM PDT by OESY
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To: machogirl

Too bad this idiot writer isn’t smart enough to look back to the 1979 BBC Documentary of the SAME NAME for his answers...

It’s ALWAYS “Bush’s Fault” with these clowns. ALWAYS...


95 posted on 08/09/2007 10:40:51 AM PDT by tcrlaf (You can lead a Liberal to LOGIC, but you can't make it THINK)
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To: machogirl
Dedicated to Macho Women everywhere:

You can have fun at the YMCA

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96 posted on 08/09/2007 10:51:16 AM PDT by OESY
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To: JHBowden
He said the Hour of Resurrection shall not come before Muslims fight Jews and before Jews hide behind trees and behind rocks.

Hmmm. Moslems haven't been making much progress on that front, have they? In the 6-Day War, there was the old joke:

Q: How many gears does an Egyptian tank have?

A: Seven. One forward and 6 reverse.

Does the Prophet say anything about the period when Moslems are hiding behind schoolchildren and dressing like women to hide from the Jewish soldiers? The builders of the next caliphate seem to have been stuck in that mode for a while.

97 posted on 08/09/2007 11:26:21 AM PDT by SamuraiScot
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To: Veto!

I did intend for it to be a compliment. I also have to admit, that I never thought of it that way before and I have taken your philosophy to heart. Thanks for the different perspective.


98 posted on 08/09/2007 11:50:46 AM PDT by CSM ("The real question is, why don’t we hate them?" - Veto! (8/9/2007))
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To: OESY

This is the worst thing I have seen of my life !

Worse than Speaker Pelosi sworning in Congress.


99 posted on 08/09/2007 12:08:39 PM PDT by drzz
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To: machogirl

A different old article of the same title, same topic, from the right.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1099400/posts

The idea that what goes around comes around applies not only to individuals but to nations and whole civilizations. It was just a few centuries ago — not long, as history is measured — that China had the highest standard of living in the world and the Dutch were the world’s largest exporters, while North Africans were enslaving a million Europeans.

Nowhere have whole peoples seen their situation reversed more visibly or more painfully than the peoples of the Islamic world. In medieval times, Europe lagged far behind the Islamic world in science, mathematics, scholarship, and military power.

Even such ancient European thinkers as Plato and Aristotle became known to Europeans of the Middle Ages only after their writings, which had been translated into Arabic, were translated back into European languages.

Today that is all reversed. The number of books per person in Europe is more than ten times that in Africa and the Middle East. The number of books translated into Arabic over the past thousand years is about the same as the number translated into Spanish in one year.

There are only 18 computers per thousand persons in the Arab world, compared to 78 per thousand persons worldwide. Fewer than 400 industrial patents were issued to people in the Arab countries during the last two decades of the 20th century, while 15,000 industrial patents were issued to South Koreans alone.

Human beings do not always take reversals of fortune gracefully. Still less can those who were once on top quietly accept seeing others leaving them far behind economically, intellectually, and militarily.

Those in the Islamic world have for centuries been taught to regard themselves as far superior to the “infidels” of the West, while everything they see with their own eyes now tells them otherwise. Worse yet, what the whole world sees with their own eyes tells them that the Middle East has made few contributions to human advancement in our times.

Even Middle Eastern oil was largely discovered and processed by people from the West. After oil, the Middle East’s most prominent export has been terrorism.

Those who look at the world in rationalistic terms may say that the Middle East can use some of its vast oil wealth to expand its own educated classes and move back to the forefront of human achievement. They did it once, why not do it again?

All sorts of things can be done in the long run, but you have to live through the short run to get there. Moreover, even the short run, as history is measured, can be pretty long in terms of the human lifespan.

Even if the Islamic world set such goals and committed the material resources and individual efforts required, they could not expect to pull abreast of the West for generations, even if the West stood still. More realistically, it would take centuries, as it took the West centuries to catch up to them.

What will happen in the meantime? Are millions of proud human beings supposed to quietly accept inferiority for themselves and their children, and perhaps their children’s children?

Or are they more likely to listen to demagogues, whether political or religious, who tell them that their lowly place in the world is due to the evils of others — the West, the Americans, the Jews?

If the peoples of the Islamic world disregarded such demagogues, they would be the exceptions, rather than the rule, among people who lag painfully far behind others. Even in the West, there have been powerful political movements based on the notion that the rich have gotten rich by keeping others poor — and that things need to be set right “by all means necessary.”

These means seldom include concentration on self-improvement, with 19th-century Japan being one of the rare exceptions. Lashing out at others is far more immediately satisfying — and modern communications, transportation, and weaponry make it far easier to lash out destructively across great distances.

Against this background, we may want to consider the question asked by hand-wringers in the West: Why do they hate us? Maybe it is because the alternative to hating us is to hate themselves.


100 posted on 08/09/2007 12:29:13 PM PDT by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestu s globus, inflammare animos)
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