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Russian bomber jets resume Cold War sorties
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Posted on 08/09/2007 8:22:48 AM PDT by jhpigott

By Dmitry Solovyov

MOSCOW (Reuters) - Russia's strategic bombers have resumed their Cold War practice of flying long-haul missions to areas patrolled by NATO and the United States, top generals said on Thursday.

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A Russian bomber flew over a U.S. military base on the Pacific island of Guam on Wednesday and "exchanged smiles" with U.S. pilots who had scrambled to track it, said Major-General Pavel Androsov, head of long-range aviation in the Russian air force.

"It has always been the tradition of our long-range aviation to fly far into the ocean, to meet (U.S.) aircraft carriers and greet (U.S. pilots) visually," Androsov told a news conference.

"Yesterday we revived this tradition, and two of our young crews paid a visit to the area of the (U.S. Pacific Naval Activities) base of Guam," he said.

President Vladimir Putin has sought to make Russia more assertive in the world.

Putin has boosted defense spending and sought to raise morale in the armed forces, which were starved of funding in the chaos that followed the fall of the Soviet Union.

Androsov said the sortie by the two turboprop Tu-95MS bombers, from a base near Blagoveshchensk in the Far East, had lasted for 13 hours. The Tu-95, codenamed "Bear" by NATO, is Russia's Cold War icon and may stay in service until 2040.

"I think the result was good. We met our colleagues -- fighter jet pilots from (U.S.) aircraft carriers. We exchanged smiles and returned home," Androsov said.

COLD WAR CAT-AND-MOUSE

The bombers give Russia the capability of launching a devastating nuclear strike even if the nuclear arsenals on its own territory are wiped out.

During the Cold War, they played elaborate airborne games of cat-and-mouse with Western air forces.

Lieutenant-General Igor Khvorov, air forces chief of staff, said the West would have to come to terms with Russia asserting its geopolitical presence around the globe.

"But I don't see anything unusual, this is business as usual ... like it is normal for the U.S. to fly from its continent to Guam or, say, the island of Garcia," Khvorov said, referring to a remote Indian Ocean atoll used as a military base by the U.S.

On Wednesday, young pilots of strategic bombers passed a series of tests, including missile launches. "We fired eight cruise missiles, and all hit bull's eye," Khvorov said.

He said one crew had taken off from Engels in southwestern Russia, hit a target in the north and then flown thousands of kilometers before finally landing in the Far East.

Engels is home to Russia's supersonic Tupolev Tu-160 strategic bombers, in service since 1987 and codenamed "Blackjack" by NATO while called "White Swan" by Russian pilots.

The generals said under Putin long-range aviation was no longer in need of fuel, enjoyed better maintenance and much higher wages -- not the least because the Kremlin leader once made a five-hour sortie as part of a "White Swan" crew.

"The president learned about the pilots' work the hard way," Khvorov said. "This one flight yielded an awful lot."


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Russia
KEYWORDS: aviation; coldwar2; coldwarredux; nato; russianmilitary; sorties; usairforce; usnavy; wasteofaviationfuel
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To: epluribus_2
looks like a DC-6-ski.

If my aviation history is correct, I believe the Tupolev Bear is basically a reverse engineered captured WW2 US Superfortress.

21 posted on 08/09/2007 9:04:00 AM PDT by FormerACLUmember (The ideal tyranny is that which is ignorantly self-administered by its victims.)
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To: Badeye

Putin hoping Iran’s “ImMadinTheHead” will pull something just as idiotic, but, the consequences to be different from a US response to similar Iranian crap?


22 posted on 08/09/2007 9:29:56 AM PDT by RSmithOpt (Liberalism: Highway to Hell)
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To: FormerACLUmember
The reversed engineered B-29 Superfortress was the TU-4 Bull. The TU-95 Bears were the Russian response to the B-52s and I don't belive it was a copy of anything.


23 posted on 08/09/2007 9:32:24 AM PDT by darkwing104 (Let's get dangerous)
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To: RSmithOpt

Putin hoping Iran’s “ImMadinTheHead” will pull something just as idiotic, but, the consequences to be different from a US response to similar Iranian crap?

Hmmmm. No, I think this is about Russian Ego more than anything else, and the former KGB agents desire to return to the time when the Soviet Union was feared.

It won’t work.


24 posted on 08/09/2007 9:38:58 AM PDT by Badeye (You know its a kook site when they ban the word 'kook')
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To: FormerACLUmember; edcoil

If these ever went to war,they would’nt need to get anywhere near an enemy given they can fire cruise missiles with a range of almost 1,500 miles or new supersonic anti-ship weapons with range of almost 200 miles.


25 posted on 08/09/2007 9:47:07 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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To: Ancesthntr

I agree totally with your assessment, including that of Bush vis-a-vis Putin. It seems that the Russkies also are making claim on the North Pole.


26 posted on 08/09/2007 9:50:40 AM PDT by Inwoodian
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To: darkwing104
The reversed engineered B-29 Superfortress was the TU-4 Bull. The TU-95 Bears were the Russian response to the B-52s and I don't belive it was a copy of anything.

You are 100% correct. The Tu-4 Bull was the reverse engineered Superfortress, copied from a plane forced to land in the Soviet Far East in WW2.


27 posted on 08/09/2007 9:55:22 AM PDT by FormerACLUmember (The ideal tyranny is that which is ignorantly self-administered by its victims.)
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To: Badeye

Do you think today’s Russian KGB is still feared? I do.


28 posted on 08/09/2007 9:56:07 AM PDT by RSmithOpt (Liberalism: Highway to Hell)
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To: jhpigott

We ought to revive a couple of Tomcats to meet these clowns at some point.

Anyone know if the AIM-54 is being carried by any Navy fighters ?


29 posted on 08/09/2007 9:56:14 AM PDT by Veeram ("Any fool (Liberal) can criticize, condemn and complain and most fools do." ---Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Veeram

The Phoenix was retired before the Tomcat itself.


30 posted on 08/09/2007 9:57:32 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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To: FormerACLUmember
I build model airplanes as a hobby and I get paid to work on the real things. It's cool when you can get paid for something you like to do.


31 posted on 08/09/2007 10:01:43 AM PDT by darkwing104 (Let's get dangerous)
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To: RSmithOpt

‘Do you think today’s Russian KGB is still feared? I do.’

Not to the extent the old KGB was, with some professional exceptions in Russia (the media in particular).

But outside Russia?

Nope, not even close.


32 posted on 08/09/2007 10:05:27 AM PDT by Badeye (You know its a kook site when they ban the word 'kook')
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To: FormerACLUmember

That is a Russian Navy Tu-142 Bear F. The Tu-95MS are new-build airframes. The last one came off the production line in the early 1990s. Their role is stand-off air-launched cruise missile carrier. Incomparison the youngest USAF B-52H came off the production line in 1962.


33 posted on 08/09/2007 12:01:54 PM PDT by Tommyjo
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To: Daus

All the Tu-95MS are new build airframes. The youngest Bear H airframe is approx 30 years younger than the oldest B-52H airframe.

The range of the Bear H is incredible. Its sole role today is ALCM carrier with the longest range ALCMs in any airforces inventory.


34 posted on 08/09/2007 12:07:08 PM PDT by Tommyjo
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To: FormerACLUmember; darkwing104
From what I remember reading, they even copied a poorly designed motor or pump, even to the point of carrying a spare or two.

The US eventually fixed that shortcoming, but obviously not on the one that the Soviets declined to return.

35 posted on 08/09/2007 12:28:38 PM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: jhpigott

Looks like the Tu-95s never came close enough to warrant an intercept.

http://www.kuam.com/news/23950.aspx

http://www.kuam.com/news/23941.aspx


36 posted on 08/10/2007 2:26:38 PM PDT by Tommyjo
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To: jhpigott

Too bad we just finished chopping up our last F-14’s, which were designed to deal with Soviet Bombers.


37 posted on 08/17/2007 11:08:42 PM PDT by rmlew (Build a wall, attrit the illegals, end the anchor babies, Americanize Immigrants)
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