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Russian bomber jets resume Cold War sorties
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070809/pl_nm/russia_military_flights_dc ^

Posted on 08/09/2007 8:22:48 AM PDT by jhpigott

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To: epluribus_2
looks like a DC-6-ski.

If my aviation history is correct, I believe the Tupolev Bear is basically a reverse engineered captured WW2 US Superfortress.

21 posted on 08/09/2007 9:04:00 AM PDT by FormerACLUmember (The ideal tyranny is that which is ignorantly self-administered by its victims.)
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To: Badeye

Putin hoping Iran’s “ImMadinTheHead” will pull something just as idiotic, but, the consequences to be different from a US response to similar Iranian crap?


22 posted on 08/09/2007 9:29:56 AM PDT by RSmithOpt (Liberalism: Highway to Hell)
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To: FormerACLUmember
The reversed engineered B-29 Superfortress was the TU-4 Bull. The TU-95 Bears were the Russian response to the B-52s and I don't belive it was a copy of anything.


23 posted on 08/09/2007 9:32:24 AM PDT by darkwing104 (Let's get dangerous)
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To: RSmithOpt

Putin hoping Iran’s “ImMadinTheHead” will pull something just as idiotic, but, the consequences to be different from a US response to similar Iranian crap?

Hmmmm. No, I think this is about Russian Ego more than anything else, and the former KGB agents desire to return to the time when the Soviet Union was feared.

It won’t work.


24 posted on 08/09/2007 9:38:58 AM PDT by Badeye (You know its a kook site when they ban the word 'kook')
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To: FormerACLUmember; edcoil

If these ever went to war,they would’nt need to get anywhere near an enemy given they can fire cruise missiles with a range of almost 1,500 miles or new supersonic anti-ship weapons with range of almost 200 miles.


25 posted on 08/09/2007 9:47:07 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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To: Ancesthntr

I agree totally with your assessment, including that of Bush vis-a-vis Putin. It seems that the Russkies also are making claim on the North Pole.


26 posted on 08/09/2007 9:50:40 AM PDT by Inwoodian
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To: darkwing104
The reversed engineered B-29 Superfortress was the TU-4 Bull. The TU-95 Bears were the Russian response to the B-52s and I don't belive it was a copy of anything.

You are 100% correct. The Tu-4 Bull was the reverse engineered Superfortress, copied from a plane forced to land in the Soviet Far East in WW2.


27 posted on 08/09/2007 9:55:22 AM PDT by FormerACLUmember (The ideal tyranny is that which is ignorantly self-administered by its victims.)
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To: Badeye

Do you think today’s Russian KGB is still feared? I do.


28 posted on 08/09/2007 9:56:07 AM PDT by RSmithOpt (Liberalism: Highway to Hell)
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To: jhpigott

We ought to revive a couple of Tomcats to meet these clowns at some point.

Anyone know if the AIM-54 is being carried by any Navy fighters ?


29 posted on 08/09/2007 9:56:14 AM PDT by Veeram ("Any fool (Liberal) can criticize, condemn and complain and most fools do." ---Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Veeram

The Phoenix was retired before the Tomcat itself.


30 posted on 08/09/2007 9:57:32 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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To: FormerACLUmember
I build model airplanes as a hobby and I get paid to work on the real things. It's cool when you can get paid for something you like to do.


31 posted on 08/09/2007 10:01:43 AM PDT by darkwing104 (Let's get dangerous)
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To: RSmithOpt

‘Do you think today’s Russian KGB is still feared? I do.’

Not to the extent the old KGB was, with some professional exceptions in Russia (the media in particular).

But outside Russia?

Nope, not even close.


32 posted on 08/09/2007 10:05:27 AM PDT by Badeye (You know its a kook site when they ban the word 'kook')
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To: FormerACLUmember

That is a Russian Navy Tu-142 Bear F. The Tu-95MS are new-build airframes. The last one came off the production line in the early 1990s. Their role is stand-off air-launched cruise missile carrier. Incomparison the youngest USAF B-52H came off the production line in 1962.


33 posted on 08/09/2007 12:01:54 PM PDT by Tommyjo
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To: Daus

All the Tu-95MS are new build airframes. The youngest Bear H airframe is approx 30 years younger than the oldest B-52H airframe.

The range of the Bear H is incredible. Its sole role today is ALCM carrier with the longest range ALCMs in any airforces inventory.


34 posted on 08/09/2007 12:07:08 PM PDT by Tommyjo
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To: FormerACLUmember; darkwing104
From what I remember reading, they even copied a poorly designed motor or pump, even to the point of carrying a spare or two.

The US eventually fixed that shortcoming, but obviously not on the one that the Soviets declined to return.

35 posted on 08/09/2007 12:28:38 PM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: jhpigott

Looks like the Tu-95s never came close enough to warrant an intercept.

http://www.kuam.com/news/23950.aspx

http://www.kuam.com/news/23941.aspx


36 posted on 08/10/2007 2:26:38 PM PDT by Tommyjo
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To: jhpigott

Too bad we just finished chopping up our last F-14’s, which were designed to deal with Soviet Bombers.


37 posted on 08/17/2007 11:08:42 PM PDT by rmlew (Build a wall, attrit the illegals, end the anchor babies, Americanize Immigrants)
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