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Texas Parents Sue Governor, School District Over Moment of Silence
fox news ^ | 08/08/07 | AP

Posted on 08/09/2007 7:56:29 AM PDT by TornadoAlley3

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1 posted on 08/09/2007 7:56:32 AM PDT by TornadoAlley3
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To: TornadoAlley3

I wonder if they’ll sue when the muzzies get their 2 or 3 twenty-minute prayer-sessions in a specially-provided room with closed circuit tv views of Mecca.


2 posted on 08/09/2007 7:58:52 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: TornadoAlley3

“David Wallace Croft and his wife, Shannon, of Carrollton, Texas,”

Petty, hate-filled people.


3 posted on 08/09/2007 7:59:13 AM PDT by L98Fiero (A fool who'll waste his life, God rest his guts.)
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To: TornadoAlley3

A**holes! Perfect time to administer a punch in the gut.


4 posted on 08/09/2007 8:01:33 AM PDT by WinMod70
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To: TornadoAlley3

http://alumnus.caltech.edu/~croft/

Uber-geek.


5 posted on 08/09/2007 8:01:54 AM PDT by L98Fiero (A fool who'll waste his life, God rest his guts.)
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If you want a few good laughs, check out their website:

Humanist Fellowship of North Texas

6 posted on 08/09/2007 8:02:52 AM PDT by dfwgator (The University of Florida - Still Championship U)
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To: TornadoAlley3
David Wallace Croft and his wife, Shannon, of Carrollton, Texas, have three children at Rosemeade Elementary and argue that the moment of silence is unconstitutional and amounts to state-sanctioned school prayer.

Regardless of where anyone might stand religiously, I think just about anyone can see from this statement that these people are some of the most unconscionably stupid people this country has ever produced.

Question: To which God or gods is one praying if one sits there in silence? And how would anyone else ever know?

7 posted on 08/09/2007 8:03:05 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (Fred Dalton Thompson - POTUS 44)
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I think I’ve actually got one of his Java books. I knew I had heard that name somewhere before.


8 posted on 08/09/2007 8:03:30 AM PDT by dfwgator (The University of Florida - Still Championship U)
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To: TornadoAlley3

The bastardization of the Establishment Clause continues.... Few people realize that the Establishment Clause was not meant to apply to the states, but rather, as all the Bill of Rights were originally intended, only to the Federal Government. Even fewer people realize that as many as 8 of the original STATES had established religions, Mass. keeping theirs the longest, until 1835. But enough with the history lesson, it will be interesting to see how the new makeup of the Supreme Court affects the outcome, if at all, of Establishment Clause cases. At least there won’t be any more of O’Connor’s “balancing tests” ... Let’s hope anyway.


9 posted on 08/09/2007 8:03:43 AM PDT by IMissPresidentReagan ("My Friends we did it....we made a difference. ...All in all not bad, not bad at all." Pres. Reagan)
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Uber-geek

That's putting it mildly.

10 posted on 08/09/2007 8:03:46 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: L98Fiero

Jsut goes to show - you can give a person a degree, but you can’t give them intelligence or reasoning capacities.


11 posted on 08/09/2007 8:04:44 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (Fred Dalton Thompson - POTUS 44)
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To: TornadoAlley3
Christians and Jews spend too much time catering to people who want to take away their freedoms...Someone has to tell the atheists that this silly BS must stop now. Who are they to deny other people their right to practice their religious beliefs...


12 posted on 08/09/2007 8:05:18 AM PDT by darkwing104 (Let's get dangerous)
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To: TornadoAlley3

We used to have several moments of silence when I was in the West Iron County Public School system. It was called “When the hand goes up, the mouths go shut”. The teachers were very liberal with this practice.


13 posted on 08/09/2007 8:05:33 AM PDT by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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His children don't have to pray. They can think about their father's beliefs (it'll take more than a moment...):
I am an Optihumanist.

I am a Founder and the Secretary of the Humanist Church of North Texas (formerly the Freethought Fellowship).

I am also a Founder and the Treasurer of the Society for Universal Immortalism (formerly the Transhumanist Church).

As a transhumanist, I believe that future technologies such as nanotechnology will one day permit us to live forever. I have made arrangements with the Alcor Life Extension Foundation for cryotransport upon my death.

I created an announcements mailing list and a discussion mailing list for North Texas Transhumanists living in the Dallas/Fort Worth (DFW) Metroplex.

I am a Bright. I am a Founder of the Dallas Brights.

I have been nominated to serve as Chair of the Metroplex Atheists. I serve as Vice Chair and Webmaster of the Metroplex Atheists Reading Group.

I am a member of the American Humanist Association.

I recently became a member of the all-volunteer democratic organization Atheist Alliance International.

I am a Physical Determinist; I do not believe that there is any inherent randomness in the physics of the universe.

I am confounded by how a universe could come to exist from null.


14 posted on 08/09/2007 8:06:03 AM PDT by AnnaZ (I keep 2 magnums in my desk.One's a gun and I keep it loaded.Other's a bottle and it keeps me loaded)
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Or these lines:

“I recently became a member of the all-volunteer democratic organization Atheist Alliance International.

I am a Physical Determinist; I do not believe that there is any inherent randomness in the physics of the universe.

I am confounded by how a universe could come to exist from null.”

LOL! That is classic.


15 posted on 08/09/2007 8:06:20 AM PDT by L98Fiero (A fool who'll waste his life, God rest his guts.)
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To: TornadoAlley3

This will probably get tossed out pretty quick. There is established case law that a moment of silence is NOT government-sponsored or -mandated prayer, as one has the option to pray to whatever God or gods one believes in, to meditate on the day, or not do anything at all.

That’s why we *have* moments of silence now instead of prayers, after all.


16 posted on 08/09/2007 8:06:34 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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This is so lame..I think I will bring a law suit against these parents for keeping my grand children from a moment of silence..Someone needs to counter sue these nitwits..If they don’t like it then let them teach the kids at home..I really feel sorry for those children of theirs..
17 posted on 08/09/2007 8:07:24 AM PDT by Willow25
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I just have to laugh at atheists who still create a religion.


18 posted on 08/09/2007 8:07:52 AM PDT by dfwgator (The University of Florida - Still Championship U)
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To: samtheman
I wonder if they’ll sue when the muzzies get their 2 or 3 twenty-minute prayer-sessions in a specially-provided room with closed circuit tv views of Mecca.

I wonder if they'll sue when their children and grandchildren are required to abide by a muslim mandated government which was allowed to come to power because of limp wristed twits like themselves?

I just checked for his phone number. It's unlisted. Hmmm. I wonder why?

19 posted on 08/09/2007 8:08:58 AM PDT by LouAvul
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*sigh*

As a student I would have been THRILLED with a moment of silence, whether to pray, collect my thoughts, or even JUST BREATHE in silence.

These people need to get a grip. Unless someone is saying you “must” pray it is no more sanctioning school prayer than anything else.

I’m Jewish and a Texan — I grew up with prayers at football games — public high school. If it helps those who believe, more power to them. I was respectful and silent during their prayers. *shrug* I’m sure if enough Jews wanted a Jewish prayer we could have gotten (or I guess they still could get) a rabbi to lead one - I think though that now there are no prayers at all. Which I find more sad — I’ve always found the moment of silence a “fairer” compromise than anything else — at least be respectful of everyone’s beliefs.

If the humanistic kids want to stand on their heads for that minute, let them. If they want to read, let them. If they want to pick their nose and examine it under the scope - who cares? ;)


20 posted on 08/09/2007 8:09:16 AM PDT by twinzmommy
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