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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

George McGovern was a WWII bomber pilot. Are we supposed to be impressed by paleoPaulie as a flight surgeon??? Both of those weasels wound up antiwar antiAmerican jerks.


28 posted on 08/08/2007 4:25:26 PM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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To: BlackElk
Are we supposed to be impressed by paleoPaulie as a flight surgeon???

Are you really denigrating Paul's military service to our country just because he didn't have his boots on the ground? Do you realize how valuable his role was as a flight surgeon?

Both of those weasels wound up antiwar antiAmerican jerks.

So when conservatives opposed Clinton's Kosovo War were we all "anti-American" jerks too? Gotta support the troops, you know! Paul has supported all defense budgets, veteran's funding, and military hardware so Reagan can win the Cold War. Had Bush properly asked Congress for a declaration of war, there's no doubt that Paul would have voted for 9/11-related defenses too. He still voted for Afghanistan, mind you.

35 posted on 08/08/2007 4:45:43 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: BlackElk
Paleoconservatism

vs

Neoconservatism

Paleoconservatism (sometimes shortened to paleo or paleocon when the context is clear) is an anti-communist and anti-authoritarian[1] right wing movement based primarily in the United States that stresses tradition, civil society and classical federalism, along with familial, religious, regional, national and Western identity

Neo's

According to Peter Steinfels, a historian of the movement, the neoconservatives' "emphasis on foreign affairs emerged after the New Left and the counterculture had dissolved as convincing foils for neoconservatism . . . The essential source of their anxiety is not military or geopolitical or to be found overseas at all; it is domestic and cultural and ideological."[19] Neoconservative foreign policy parallels their domestic policy. They insist that the U.S. military must be strong enough to control the world, or else the world will descend into chaos. Believing that America should "export democracy," that is, spread its ideals of government, economics, and culture abroad, they grew to reject U.S. reliance on international organizations and treaties to accomplish these objectives. Compared to other U.S. conservatives, neoconservatives may be characterized by an idealist stance on foreign policy, a lesser social conservatism, and a much weaker dedication to a policy of minimal government, and, in the past, a greater acceptance of the welfare state.

Consequently, neoconservatives advocate the spread of democracy to regions of the world where it currently does not prevail, most notably the Arab nations of the Middle East, communist China, North Korea and Iran.

neoconservatism "originated in the 1970s as a movement of anti-Soviet liberals and social democrats in the tradition of Truman, Kennedy, Johnson, Humphrey and Henry ("Scoop") Jackson, many of whom preferred to call themselves 'paleoliberals.

Neoconservatives also have a very strong belief in the ability of the United States to install democracy after a conflict -

So if you call Dr. Ron Paul a Paleoconservate do you think it is an insult to him of some kind?

Ron Paul's brand of conservativism has been the conservative standard well before William Kristol and John Podhoretz separated from their idealogical brothers on the left and began trying to hijack traditional conservatism.

37 posted on 08/08/2007 5:17:10 PM PDT by KDD (Ron Paul for President.)
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