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To: angkor
>>>>>The "values voter" or "social conservative" is by definition a single-issue voter ....

Pure BS! I'm a social conservative and while I would never vote for someone who advocates abortion on demand as a Constitutional right --- like Hillary, Obama and Giuliani --- there are many issues beyond Roe v Wade that drive my conservative politics. Most social conservatives I know believe in a broad range of issues that drive their politics.

Anyone who advocates comprehensive liberal immigration reform, anyone promoting gay rights, anyone who advocates gun control, anyone who supports liberal global warming bunkum or any candidate who supports expanding the welfare state and raising taxes, along with any candidate who believes government is the end all to solving the problems facing America today, will never get my vote.

If you read the Constitution, the Declaration of Independence and throw in the Federalist Papers for good measure, who'll get a better understanding about what the Founders had in mind for our Republic. And abortion on demand is not a right you will find in the any part of the Constitution or the DOI. Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness are at the very core of our basic human rights. The Founding Fathers believed a right to life was at the top of the list of fundamental human rights. If you don't believe that, you're a heathen.

71 posted on 08/07/2007 8:19:59 AM PDT by Reagan Man (FUHGETTABOUTIT Rudy....... Conservatives don't vote for liberals!)
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To: Reagan Man
I'm a social conservative... abortion.... immigration... gay rights... gun control... global warming.... welfare state... raising taxes.... government is the end all...If you don't believe that, you're a heathen.

Interesting.

I agree with virtually every issue you mention above, but I'm in no way shape or form a "social conservative" or (even worse) a "values voter".

So why am I not, and why are you?

It is more than a little revealing that you devote your entire final paragraph to a statement about me, the Founding Fathers, the Declaration, etc., and in the end it all points to.... abortion!!!! (Surprise surprise!).

Moreover, you then take a step toward putting words into my mouth, and calling me a "heathen" in the [probable] event that you're right.

Now, getting back to the above, what makes you a "social conservative", as opposed to myself and other non-qualified, plain old "conservatives"?

PS - I'd not vote for Giuliani - even though he does have a demonstrable executive track record in New York - because I'm opposed to not just one but at least three of his positions. One of them is abortion.

80 posted on 08/07/2007 9:42:00 AM PDT by angkor
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To: Reagan Man

You tell him!


92 posted on 08/07/2007 11:42:16 AM PDT by fetal heart beats by 21st day (Defending human life is not a federalist issue-it is the business of all humanity.)
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