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To: Reagan Man
I'm a social conservative... abortion.... immigration... gay rights... gun control... global warming.... welfare state... raising taxes.... government is the end all...If you don't believe that, you're a heathen.

Interesting.

I agree with virtually every issue you mention above, but I'm in no way shape or form a "social conservative" or (even worse) a "values voter".

So why am I not, and why are you?

It is more than a little revealing that you devote your entire final paragraph to a statement about me, the Founding Fathers, the Declaration, etc., and in the end it all points to.... abortion!!!! (Surprise surprise!).

Moreover, you then take a step toward putting words into my mouth, and calling me a "heathen" in the [probable] event that you're right.

Now, getting back to the above, what makes you a "social conservative", as opposed to myself and other non-qualified, plain old "conservatives"?

PS - I'd not vote for Giuliani - even though he does have a demonstrable executive track record in New York - because I'm opposed to not just one but at least three of his positions. One of them is abortion.

80 posted on 08/07/2007 9:42:00 AM PDT by angkor
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To: angkor
Connect the dots anyway you like, I couldn't care less. My response to your post at #62 had more to do with elaborating on the well accepted politics of social conservatives, then anything else. You took it personal. Can't help it if you're that thin skinned.

Having said that. You posted several remarks that clearly expressed disdain for social conservatives. You made that abundantly clear. Your post at #62 is ALL yours. My response was to correct your illusionary claim and to set the record straight. Social conservatives aren't one issue voters. Far from it.

However, the Founding Fathers did place a fundamental right to life in America's first governing document that began to break our ties from the tyrannical British Empire. They clearly state that in the Declaration of Independence.

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness".

If you support freedom and liberty, a right to life is a pretty easy concept to grasp. You appear to have a serious problem with Constitutional conservatives who agree in principle with the Founders and the priority they gave to life, as written down in the Republic`s earliest governing document. I really don't know what you tell you. In this regard, the Founders original intent was crystal clear. Clearly, abortion on demand and partial birth abortion aren't found in any of America's founding documents. Killing the unborn is not a fundamental right. The right to life, is a fundamental right.

88 posted on 08/07/2007 10:45:08 AM PDT by Reagan Man (FUHGETTABOUTIT Rudy....... Conservatives don't vote for liberals!)
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