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Iraq air force wants Iran to give back its planes
Reuters ^ | Sun Aug 5, 2007 | Ross Colvin

Posted on 08/06/2007 7:03:36 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki

Iraq air force wants Iran to give back its planes

Sun Aug 5, 2007 9:24AM EDT

By Ross Colvin

BAGHDAD (Reuters) - Iraq's air force commander said on Sunday he hoped Iran would return some of the scores of Iraqi fighter plans that flew there ahead of the Gulf War in 1991, but conceded many of them were probably beyond repair.

Lieutenant-General Kamal al-Barzanji is eyeing the aircraft, which were flown to Iran to escape destruction, as he slowly rebuilds Iraq's shattered air force with American help.

"Until now we have not brought back any aircraft. This case belongs to the politicians," he told a news briefing in Baghdad.

"But we hope we could bring back some of these aircraft to Iraq," he said, adding that only a few would be salvageable.

Security information Web site GlobalSecurity.org estimates that half of the air force fled to Iran in 1991, just three years after the end of the Iran-Iraq war, rather than confront Coalition planes.

Much of the rest of the air force was destroyed during the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq in 2003.

Iraq's air force is slowly rising from the ashes of decades of war and sanctions that wiped out its fleet of combat aircraft, once reputed to be the world's sixth-biggest.

At one stage the air force boasted 750 mainly Soviet- and French-built fighters, bombers and armed trainer aircraft, according to GlobalSecurity.org.

But Barzanji said there were now just 45 aircraft -- for transport and reconnaissance -- and helicopters. The air force first created in 1931 has been rebuilt from scratch since 2004.

Pilots from Saddam's time form the backbone of efforts to create a new air fleet, although U.S. Brigadier-General Bob Allardice, commander of the air force transition team, said a program to train new aviators had begun.

"It is a complex process to train the air force while also fighting a counter-insurgency," he told reporters.

As yet the new air force has no offensive capability, relying on U.S. attack helicopters and fighters to support ground troops.

U.S. commanders recognize, however, that needs to be addressed if they are to proceed with handing over security to Iraqi security forces to allow U.S troops to leave.

Asked when the air force would be in a position to conduct air combat operations, Kamal said: "That stage is close."

At present the air force consists of C-130 Hercules transport aircraft, a variety of small fixed-wing aircraft for reconnaissance, and a number of Vietnam-era Huey and MI-17 Russian-made helicopters.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aerospace; aviation; iran; iraq; iraqiairforce

1 posted on 08/06/2007 7:03:43 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki

This reminds me of a Simpson’s episode where Mr. Burns and Homer runs off to Cuba with a 1 trillion dollar bill.

Mr. Burns: Oh, so the island’s not for sale, eh? Well, will you at least permit us to live in your socialist paradise?
Castro: You talking about Cuba?
Mr. Burns: All we ask is preferential treatment because of my fabulous wealth!
[Burns holds the trillion dollar bill up.]
Castro: May I see?
Mr. Burns: Ho ho ho, see with your eyes, not with your hands!
Castro: Please, we are all amigos here!
Homer: Mr. Burns.. I think we can trust the president of Cuba..
Mr. Burns: [hands it to Castro, and waits a couple of seconds.] Now, give it back...
Castro: Give what back?
Mr. Burns: D’ohh...
% The three men are on a crudely made raft in the middle of the ocean headed back home.
Homer: It’s hard to believe there’s a place worse than America, but we found it!
Mr. Burns: Yes, I too feel renewed appreciation for the good old US of A. Oppression and harrassment are a small price to pay to live in the land of the free.
Smithers: Sir, aren’t you facing some serious jail time?
Mr. Burns: Well, if it’s a crime to love one’s country, then I’m guilty. And if it’s a crime to steal a trillion dollars from our government and hand it over to communist Cuba, then I’m guilty of that too. And if it’s a crime to bribe a jury, then so help me, I’ll soon be guilty of that!
Homer: God bless America!


2 posted on 08/06/2007 7:22:02 AM PDT by Philly Nomad
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To: sukhoi-30mki

I think they belong to Iran now.


3 posted on 08/06/2007 7:41:31 AM PDT by Chi-townChief
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To: sukhoi-30mki

[Pilots from Saddam’s time form the backbone of efforts to create a new air fleet]

That speaks volume’s why Iraqi leadership is a joke.


4 posted on 08/06/2007 7:44:59 AM PDT by RetSignman (DEMSM: "If you tell a big enough lie, frequently enough, it becomes the truth")
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To: RetSignman

All Iraqi officers above the rank of Major are former members of old Iraqi Armed Forces.
Vetted and authorized by the GoI, about 1/5th are allowed back in, the rest are pensioned off.
To build a military without them would take two decades or more and we would be commanding everything above battalion level still.
Less than four years into building a new force and, yes, leadership is a weak point...


5 posted on 08/06/2007 12:10:09 PM PDT by DJ Elliott
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