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Trutheriness and Ron Paul (Michelle Malkin) [Ron Paul Says The Darnedest Things!]
Michelle Malkin ^ | May 19, 2007 | Michelle Malkin

Posted on 08/05/2007 5:34:39 PM PDT by Lovebloggers

CALLER: I want a complete, impartial, and totally independent investigation of the events of September 11, 2001 . I’m tired of this bogus garbage about terrorism. Ask Michael Meacher about how he feels about this bogus war on terrorism. Can you comment on that please?

HON. DR. RON PAUL: Well, that would be nice to have. Unfortunately, we don’t have that in place. IT WILL BE A LITTLE BIT BETTER NOW WITH THE DEMOCRATS NOW IN CHARGE OF OVERSIGHT. But you know, for top level policy there’s not a whole lot of difference between the two policies so a real investigation isn’t going to happen. But I think we have to keep pushing for it. And like you and others, we see the investigations that have been done so far as more or less cover-up and no real explanation of what went on.

(Excerpt) Read more at michellemalkin.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: asseenonstormfront; malkin; michellemalkin; paulbearers; paulestinians; paulistas; paultheloser; ronpaul; truthers
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To: rineaux

My father was a fighter pilot and it was obvious to him right away why the Air Force didn’t intercept the jets. Prior to 9/11, it was STOP for jets to scramble east, over the Atlantic Ocean. Cold War training had them operating under the assumption that any threat would be coming from across the Atlantic. The planes headed to the Atlantic and had to be called back. Also, you have to remember NORAD didn’t know immediately what was going on. Since this was unprecedented, it wasn’t until the second jet hit the towers that they were sure this was an attack. If I recall correctly, I don’t think the jets would have been properly armed at the time either. Yes, many logical explanations. The better question is, what are you suggesting is the alternative? That the goverment LIHOP? It is so funny how, in one breath you take offense that Paul is being lumped in with Truthers and then aPaulogists like you and Maeve imply these very things!


221 posted on 08/05/2007 11:49:56 PM PDT by soccermom
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To: George W. Bush

Can you imagine how crude these people are, bragging how much they’d love to slap a baby doctor over the age of seventy on national television?
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I can’t imagine a baby doctor that never performed an abortion nor accepted medicaid as payment. Such a physican can not possliby exist. Yet he does. His name is Dr. Ron Paul.

Only a perverted liberal would desire to slap him off a stage.


222 posted on 08/05/2007 11:52:37 PM PDT by takenoprisoner (Forfeiture of liberty for alleged security undermines our credibility as a free nation.)
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To: George W. Bush
Let's review. Michelle Malkin offered word-for-word quotes of what Paul said to a 9/11 truther. He accused her of lying, simply because the video wasn't available on her site. I pointed him to the video of Paul at the event hosted by Students for 9/11 Truth where one can clearly see her quotes are accurate and I'm the one not engaging in honesty? ROFLOL! I've said it before and I'll say it again. You aPaulogists live in your own little Alice in Wonderland world, where the sky is green and the grass is blue.
223 posted on 08/05/2007 11:57:12 PM PDT by soccermom
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To: George W. Bush

Incidentally, Georgie Porgie, I’m still waiting for you to explain what you meant in post 185. I find it interesting that you are so indignant that anyone would link Ron Paul with 9/11 conspiracy kooks. Yet you, his number one aPaulogist, are apparently validating what Maeve said.


224 posted on 08/06/2007 12:04:34 AM PDT by soccermom
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To: takenoprisoner
Only a perverted liberal would desire to slap him off a stage.

It only shows the depth of their hatred and just how far they will go to libel him and stir a lynch mob mentality here at FR.

They're haters.
225 posted on 08/06/2007 12:04:47 AM PDT by George W. Bush (Rudy: tough on terror, scared of Iowa, wets himself over YouTube)
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To: George W. Bush; takenoprisoner
Crickets chirping.....Well............??????????? I guess even in the Libertarian Wonderland it takes a while to come up with an explanation as to how I'm the one lacking honesty when "takenoprisoner" was clearly the one who was wrong. So why don't you two rub your little coconuts together and come up with a good Wonderland tale for me in the morning. Goodnight!
226 posted on 08/06/2007 12:15:21 AM PDT by soccermom
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To: soccermom
Michelle Malkin offered word-for-word quotes of what Paul said to a 9/11 truther. He accused her of lying, simply because the video wasn't available on her site.

Malkin has been discredited many times with inaccurate reporting that she has been forced to correct later. She's a hysteric. She is not a credible journalist or blogger.

Malkin is a shill for BORe who calls FreeRepublic a hate site and she guest-hosts his little show sometimes.

And I'm supposed to care what Malkin says when she selectively quotes RP out of context?

Malkin would do better to get her spicy little falafel out and go spend some quality time with BORe. I've read he loves that sort of thing.
227 posted on 08/06/2007 12:16:35 AM PDT by George W. Bush (Rudy: tough on terror, scared of Iowa, wets himself over YouTube)
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To: Lovebloggers; TexasAg1996; dighton; John D; Petronski

Y’all are cracking me up on here ;-) Well done!


228 posted on 08/06/2007 12:18:15 AM PDT by Allegra (11)
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To: George W. Bush; takenoprisoner; soccermom
Good grief, Charlie Brown! Malkinspeak seems to be backstriking the backstricken backstrikes! (Get that?)

From truth, to truther, to truthest, to truthness, to truthiness, and on to (so far) Michelle's Trutheriness.

This sort of language-bending out-hilariouses political correctness by three megaguffaws!

Where are Ed Neuman, Bill Buckley, Gordon Liddy, and the rest of the language guardians to show we can handle the trutheriness! (Apologies to Jack Nichols.)

229 posted on 08/06/2007 12:18:17 AM PDT by tailgunner (USMC KoreaEra)
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To: Lovebloggers
"IT WILL BE A LITTLE BIT BETTER NOW WITH THE DEMOCRATS NOW IN CHARGE OF OVERSIGHT."

I just wanted to NOW show that quote NOW one more time. LOL

230 posted on 08/06/2007 12:20:57 AM PDT by Allegra (11)
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To: soccermom
Incidentally, Georgie Porgie, I’m still waiting for you to explain what you meant in post 185.

Really? What I meant in post #185?

But I didn't post it. You did.

Just another example of how carefully you handle the "facts". Glancing at the babble in it, I can see why you'd want to accuse someone else of having written it though.
231 posted on 08/06/2007 12:23:22 AM PDT by George W. Bush (Rudy: tough on terror, scared of Iowa, wets himself over YouTube)
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To: tailgunner
From truth, to truther, to truthest, to truthness, to truthiness, and on to (so far) Michelle's Trutheriness.
It does say something when she's trying to be taken seriously and end up inventing phrases even sillier than Colbert's fevered material.

But then, Malkin is the only known living apologist for the internment of Japanese-American citizens for no reason at all during WW II, yet another of FDR's autocratic constitutional abuses.

I think Ron Paul would be proud that she considers him an enemy. It's like a badge of honor for anyone who loves liberty and human dignity, no more embarrassing than being hated by some group of racists. Or their apologists. Or by those who defend and glorify the unjust imprisonment of any group of innocent Americans based solely on racial identity and when no crime has been committed.
232 posted on 08/06/2007 12:41:34 AM PDT by George W. Bush (Rudy: tough on terror, scared of Iowa, wets himself over YouTube)
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To: Nephi

Bulletin:

The offensive post you seemed so enamored with has been removed.

And if you think it was going to be allowed to show up and STAY on every thread on FR, you have no understanding of the rules.


233 posted on 08/06/2007 12:46:30 AM PDT by txrangerette (Congressman Duncan Hunter for POTUS...check him out!!)
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To: italianquaker
There is nothing to spin.

If you are a conservative, you recognize the truth of the statement that "Power tends to corrupt; absolute power corrupts absolutely". This is the reason why we don't put our faith in the government to reshape society. That, and a few, key economic laws about the efficiency of private sector vs. government.

When Ron Paul speaks of the possibility of a "government coverup" related to 9/11, he is referring to a concerted effort on the part of government officials to downplay their own involvement in the incident. Not because it was staged, but because it represents a gross failure of the government in it's protective role.

The government failed to prevent the 9/11 attack. That's a fact. It takes a *realist*, not a conspiracy-theorist, to speculate that those who bore the most responsibility for that failure would try to downplay their own involvement. Because that's human nature, after all.

And the recognition of certain ingrained, unchangeable elements of human nature is a bedrock conservative principle.

In contrast, the rejection of these principles forms the basis for all liberal and socialist ideologies.

And here we come to another principle of human nature: People act in their own self-interest. This is true of individuals and of groups.

Applying this to the current situation, we can see how it would be in the best interest of the Dems to dig up as many details about the 9/11 security failure as possible. That's not a bad thing. That's how the system is intended to work. Set one pack of dogs against another.

Ron Paul, once again, demonstrates how RIGHT he is.
234 posted on 08/06/2007 1:09:51 AM PDT by Allerious
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To: soccermom; Take No Prisoners; tailgunner; The_Eaglet; Irontank; Gamecock; elkfersupper; dcwusmc; ...
The wildly funny part of Malkin accusing Ron Paul of "Trutheriness" is that she herself has written in agreement with the most notorious 9/11 Truther sites:

That's right. Unlike Ron Paul who she seeks to vilify, Michelle Malkin has herself written Truther conspiracy material and published it widely, something Ron Paul has never done.



Let's examine what she wrote in just one single article on 3/8/2002: Jewish World Review, Michelle Malkin - Just Wondering
"What really happened on United Airlines Flight 93? As the Philadelphia Daily News reported back in November, many folks in Shanksville, Pa., where the hijacked Boeing 757 crashed, believe the plane was shot down. Eyewitnesses reported seeing a small, unmarked jet flying overhead immediately after impact; others are convinced they heard the piercing sound of a missile. A federal flight controller told The Telegraph of Nashua, N.H., that an F-16 had indeed been in "hot pursuit" of Flight 93 until it hit the ground. One of the 911calls from a passenger on the flight indicated that there was an explosion aboard the plane. The FBI immediately confiscated the tape."
Now we compare to the primary Truther site, flight93crash.com: The Real Story of Flight 93. And we can see clearly that all of Malkin's Flight 93 conspiracy/coverup theory agrees with the Truthers.



Back to JWR where Michelle asks:
What really happened on American Airlines Flight 11? Did one of the hijackers have a gun on board? Was it planted before the flight took off, or was it smuggled on? ... FAA officials dismissed the leaked memo as a draft and claimed that the very specific report of gunfire - including the names of the victim, shooter, and their precise seat numbers -- was an editing error. Just a typo, huh?
Now to a Truther site, whatreallyhappened.com: American Airlines Flight 11, Reexamined where we find again the same material about Flight 93 from above as well as the same material on the "suppressed" memo and the transcript of the reports of shootings on board Flight 11 which Malkin seems to have copied from these Truthers.



Back to JWR for Michelle's next Truther tidbit:
Who murdered Katherine Smith, and why? Smith was the Tennessee state license examiner who had been implicated last month in a phony ID scam involving a group of shady Middle Eastern men from New York City. Investigators say there are "connections" between the ring and the Sept. 11 terrorists; one of them had a repair pass in his possession that gave him access to the lower levels of the World Trade Center basement. It was dated Sept. 5.
And we then compare this to one of the biggest Truther sites out there: 911review.org: Katherine Smith 9/11 Encyclopedia where we find the same exact material.



If being a Truther consists of believing the government caused 9/11 directly or that it conspired to cover up the most vital facts about 9/11 from the public, then by any measure Michelle Malkin is a published Truther writer. While not accusing the government of directly causing 9/11, she uses the standard Trutherisms about government coverup and suppression.

There is nothing in anything Ron Paul has said or written that is even remotely comparable to Michelle's little romp through Trutherdom.

At this point, I wouldn't be surprised if Michelle started a personal crusade to repeal the Emancipation Proclamation. She is simply not a well woman.

[Michelle-writes-Truther-articles ping]
235 posted on 08/06/2007 1:58:00 AM PDT by George W. Bush (Rudy: tough on terror, scared of Iowa, wets himself over YouTube)
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To: George W. Bush

Thanks for posting.

I would love to throw this back into her face and all her nitwit fans too. I wonder why she quit asking those questions she wrote some time ago? I can only speculate the answer but I can probably guess she has made some extra money and gotten on a few shows by not wanting to know these answers are raise them up with her fans.


236 posted on 08/06/2007 2:07:15 AM PDT by rineaux (the powers that be are laughing at us)
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To: rineaux
You have to wonder if she's trying to obscure her own Truther writing by falsely accusing Ron Paul of Trutherism to muddy her own trail.

That book on the Japanese internment is so incredibly dishonest that it is surprising she can make a living writing any more. The historian she claims inspired it has so utterly demolished it academically and in such a memorable way that I think Michelle is unlikely to ever use the words "Japanese" or "internment" in print again.
237 posted on 08/06/2007 2:12:18 AM PDT by George W. Bush (Rudy: tough on terror, scared of Iowa, wets himself over YouTube)
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To: JTN

Reading through these comments and now I see a pattern on the Paul threads.

Issue presented.

Lame attempts at trying to debunk the issue by people who don’t even bother to read the issue, or the link (this quote is not from Malkin, but my all means keep embarrassing yourself by saying it has been debunked already)

Issue represented while correcting the lame attempts.

Deflection — [whine] why are you attacking this true conserervative [/whine], and lots of big government republicans comments.

So Paul makes the comment that it is better the Democrats are now in charge of oversight (something that would never come out of the mouth of a conservative), and we get not even a glimmer of disappointment from his minions.

Oh and the truther accusation? walks like a duck and all that. He specifically said to the called “like you and others”, so one must assume he agrees with the caller, no?

But...but...he denied it! Too funny.


238 posted on 08/06/2007 3:42:49 AM PDT by Lovebloggers
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To: Abcdefg

My media player did not have a counter on it when I listened to it.


239 posted on 08/06/2007 3:43:39 AM PDT by Lovebloggers
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To: George W. Bush

Explain his quote please in the opening post. You have been dancing around that since you entered this thread.

He denied being a truther (whatever), but please explain for us Paul haters (how silly is that too?) his statement — especially the better Democrats are in charge part.

;)


240 posted on 08/06/2007 3:48:37 AM PDT by Lovebloggers
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