Republican Presidential Candidate Debate #4 - Des Moines, IA 08/05/07 - Official Discussion Thread

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[CounterCounterCulture]

Republican Presidential Candidate Debate #4 – Des Moines, Iowa 08/05/07 - Official Discussion Thread

ABC News will be conducting a debate to be aired on This Week. The nine announced GOP presidential candidates meet in a campaign debate at Drake University in Des Moines, Iowa. George Stephanopoulos is the moderator; Des Moines Register political writer David Yepsen poses additional questions. Debate starts at 8 am CT (9 am ET/ 6 am PT) * check local stations for broadcast time in your area *

Candidates participating

• Sam Brownback
• Rudy Giuliani
• Mike Huckabee
• Duncan Hunter
• John McCain
• Mitt Romney
• Ron Paul
• Tom Tancredo
• Tommy Thompson

[Grunthor]

Why is this thing on early Sunday morning? I gotta get ready for church! Grrrrr.

[mathluv]

Hunter - yes. The other two - only as a last resort.

[logician2u]

How would you know . . unless you tried?

As it says in small italics at the bottom of the page, the poll is
Not a scientific survey.

As of now, Dr. Paul is ahead with 3210 votes out of 5587 cast.

[fetal heart beats by 21st day]

I have no reason to trust Fred.

I have watched politicians manipulate people, and I think we’re being worked by Fred & co. right now, and I do not believe his potential run is driven by a desire to help this country.

If I have to, I will look at Mitt.

I intend to work for the person I believe is running to actually serve the country- someone who has been doing that for a long time-that’s Duncan Hunter.

[mathluv]

You must be saying somthing right today, MNJ, with all the vitriol coming at you. Stay strong!

[rhombus]

Cut and Run in the face of Al Quida? No way, sorry Dr. Paul we cannot run away from these guys, and their reach is international now as we all know.

Bears mentioning again. Further, if we reward terrorist tactics a third time (Vietnam, Lebanon, Somalia and then in Iraq), we will demonstrate to an awful lot of a-holes in the world that terrorism ALWAYS WORKS and we will just see more of it. We need to learn how to win these wars - not run from them - or we will keep having them.

[lfrancis]

It’s pretty frustrating for everyone. They should just have a 10 minute interview will all the candidates on one show.

At least that way I wouldn’t have to listen to Guiliani at all.

[RatsDawg]

Does anyone know if this is going to be on C-Span or anything?

[mathluv]

If RP is representative of libertarianism, I'll pass.

I would love for someone to come out strong for the Constitution without bashing the WOT.

[EQAndyBuzz]

“Steffie: “Gentleman. All of you profess to be religious. Why aren’t you in church today??””

Please tell me she didn’t ask this quuestion.

[who knows what evil?]

I intend to work for the person I believe is running to actually serve the country- someone who has been doing that for a long time-that’s Duncan Hunter.

Notice how they keep Congressman Hunter out at the end? Notice how camera shots of Romney always include Guiliani, and vice-versa? This is intentional.

[codercpc]

Unfortunately because of the lack of time Duncan was given, I don't think he did himself any favors today. I don't think he hurt himself either. He just was there, although I liked his answers, I really don't think he said anything that makes him stand out.

One of the bad things about these debates are there are to many people up there, but if they start "trimming" them, Duncan would be one of the first to go. We can't include Duncan without including the "whack job" Paul, and I think with Paul in the debates he is a distraction. I have waited for Hunter to take off, yet he seems stuck in the low single digits. I mean how in the world does Tommy Thompson (who was my Gov, and I have supported for years) or Ron Paul beat Duncan Hunter in Iowa?

[EQAndyBuzz]

“Mitt: “Barrack has gone from Jane Fonda to Dr. Strangelove in one week.”
That calls for a photo...”

Hillary actually looks good in this picture.

[EQAndyBuzz]

Ron Paul is going to be the Republicans Ralph Nader of the 2008 election cycle.

[texasgil]

I am already sooo sick of having to watch Rooty.

Run Fred run!

[RatsDawg]

Wayne Allen Root is the best Libertarian running IMO.

http://www.rootforamerica.com/

[rineaux]

sooo sick of having to watch Rooty.

I think a lot of us agree with you about Rudy, but how does that explain his lead in national polls?

Maybe I am not looking hard enough but I really haven’t seen any pro Rudy pings.

[badgerbengal]

I admit Hunter doesn't seem to do great in the debates but what he has to say and what he believes on almost every issue is right in line with my thinking. I know he doesn't realistically stand a chance but that is why we must support whomever comes out as the Republican nominee. Thompson was my Gov too.

[jrooney]

"Just where did the Drive by Media get the audience for this clown act?"

It is an ABC crowd. Bussed them in from Seattle, Portland, Berkley and S.F., except for the reserved tickets they gave out to Code Pink and every other surrender monkey. Maybe Ron Paul brought his entire surrender crowd too?

[Xenalyte]

Ah, your specs must need polishing. That is RON Paul, who’s clearly a man.

(Hint: to be effective, insults need to contain at least some truth. You’d have been better off pointing that particular finger at Rudy Giuliani, whose predilection for drag is well-documented on this forum.)