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The Left Before The Fall
Politco ^ | August 04, 2007 | By Rich Lowry

Posted on 08/04/2007 3:03:00 PM PDT by mmanager

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To: RobbyS

Did you see ‘The Fog of War’? McNamara swears that he and JFK were planning to pull out of Vietnam.


61 posted on 08/06/2007 8:05:42 AM PDT by Borges
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Whatever they intended is irrelevant. The Diems were assassinated only a few weeks before the Diem Brothers. That caused a mess that they eventually would have had to deal with. The coup destabilized the regime and the generals were unable to rule the country. Besides, imho, I think that the war broke McNamara, and he might actually believe that. Of course, timing would have been everything. The Vietnamese government might have survived until after Kennedy’s re-election in 1964. But that re-election would have been based in large part on Kennedy’s “strong” stand on Cuba in October, 1962. Goldwater would have been his opponent in 1964 and a Communist takeover during JFK’s second term would have led to a Republican victory in 1968. Funny thing is that it might have been Goldwater.
He and Kennedy were friends and so the campaign in 1964 would have been far more amiable. Barry wouldn’t have been portrayed as this trigger-happy crazy.


62 posted on 08/06/2007 8:59:07 AM PDT by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: Borges
I’m speaking of their secular achievement in letters and their effect on American letters after them. I don’t think Poe or Melville had much in common with the moral vision of the Torah either. If that’s your sole criteria then virtually the entire American literary canon gets thrown out. Gnostics like Dickinson, atheists like Hemmingway...

The most amazing thing about America is that its populace has always been devout while its leadership in almost every field has not.

63 posted on 08/06/2007 10:45:33 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Lo' tishma` 'el-divrey hanavi' ha hu' 'o 'el-cholem hachalom hahu'; ki menasseh HaShem 'etkhem.)
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