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To: FastCoyote
No, it is very much about banning and censure... The evident fact is you are for censure and bannings and I am for open discussion a la Free Republic. This will be clearly seen in your response, where you will continue to take umbrage at my being able to express any religio-political views in this forum.

Repeating a lie over and over doesn't make it less of a lie. I have called for no banning or censure. I have merely called out your debating tactics as being logically flawed, and with conscious repetition, intentionally deceitful. This latest to me just proves the point, it being the fourth or fifth strawman offered so far. You are the one who asked that proof be shown. QED.

...to appease those who can’t defend the basic premise of their religion and by implication cannot defend the resulting moral chaos that will be drawn into the political sphere by that confusion.

So, what is the basic premise of your religion, FC? And what is the rest of that gobbledygook supposed to mean? That if you can't defend it, whatever it may be, moral chaos will be drawn into the political sphere via your confusion?

You gotta stop blowing your allowance on $5 words. I take "umbrage" at your "obfuscation" by logical fallacy, not your "religio-political views".

293 posted on 08/06/2007 10:20:55 AM PDT by LexBaird (Tyrannosaurus Lex, unapologetic carnivore)
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To: LexBaird; FastCoyote
So, what is the basic premise of your religion, FC?

Guess Lex hasn't seen your doctrine of the Church of Fast Coyote.

295 posted on 08/06/2007 10:25:31 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Re:Terrorists: Realize that it has nothing to do with what we have done but with what they want.)
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To: LexBaird

“Repeating a lie over and over doesn’t make it less of a lie. I have called for no banning or censure. I have merely called out your debating tactics as being logically flawed, and with conscious repetition, intentionally deceitful. This latest to me just proves the point, it being the fourth or fifth strawman offered so far. You are the one who asked that proof be shown. QED.”

I believe your counting of the angels on the head of a pin has broached a record.

Here is the salient point, Joseph Smith was a documented nutbag. People who follow nutbags are likely to pose problems as President. Let me prove my point.

I am Your God, FastCoyote (a reformed reformed Mormon who has found the revelation and Got Him His Planet Early). I am running for president, and since I am God, I command you to vote for me!

Since (according to you) it is inopportune to attack someones religion in this forum, according to your rules you should have no response if I tell you my religion commands silence of you and your fellows.

And remember to vote FastCoyote, it’s the Universal Law!

(and by the way, if big words are too hard, maybe you could use a dictionary)


301 posted on 08/06/2007 10:45:46 AM PDT by FastCoyote
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To: LexBaird
Repeating a lie over and over doesn't make it less of a lie.
 
THIS has in in the front of the BoM for a LONG, long time....
 
http://scriptures.lds.org/en/js_h/1/19#19
  17 It no sooner appeared than I found myself adelivered from the enemy which held me bound. When the light rested upon me I bsaw two cPersonages, whose brightness and dglory defy all description, estanding above me in the air. One of them spake unto me, calling me by name and said, pointing to the other—This is My fBeloved gSon. Hear Him!
  18 My object in going to ainquire of the Lord was to know which of all the sects was right, that I might know which to join. No sooner, therefore, did I get possession of myself, so as to be able to speak, than I asked the Personages who stood above me in the light, which of all the sects was right (for at this time it had never entered into my heart that all were wrong)—and which I should join.
  19 I was answered that I must join none of them, for they were all awrong; and the Personage who addressed me said that all their creeds were an abomination in his sight; that those bprofessors were all ccorrupt; that: “they ddraw near to me with their lips, but their ehearts are far from me, they teach for doctrines the fcommandments of men, having a form of godliness, but they deny the gpower thereof.”
  20 He again forbade me to join with any of them; and many other things did he say unto me, which I cannot write at this time. When I came to myself again, I found myself alying on my back, looking up into heaven. When the light had departed, I had no strength; but soon recovering in some degree, I went home. And as I leaned up to the fireplace, bmother inquired what the matter was. I replied, “Never mind, all is well—I am well enough off.” I then said to my mother, “I have learned for myself that Presbyterianism is not true.” 

 
 
 
 

313 posted on 08/06/2007 1:11:44 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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