Mitt unplugged

Politico ^ | August 04, 2007 | Jonathan Martin

[mmanager]

Mitt Romney engaged in a heated discussion about his Mormon faith with a prominent Des Moines talk show host off the air on Thursday morning. The contentious back-and-forth between Romney and WHO's Jan Mickelson began on the air (video link courtesy Breitbart.tv) when the former governor appeared on the popular program that has become a regular stop for GOP presidential hopefuls. But the conversation spilled over to a commercial break and went on after the program ended, where a visibly annoyed Romney spoke in much greater detail about his church's doctrines than he is comfortable doing so in public.

The footage was captured by the station's in-studio camera and posted on its website. But Romney, who is careful to portray a sunny and upbeat public image, clearly did not know he was being recorded. The candidate reveals a private side that is at turns cutting, combative and sarcastic, but most of all agitated at being forced to defend what he and his church stand for.

[Elsie]

You post ad nauseum repeated JS translations, many many times over, to the point of exasperation, but when I post biblical references with no translation, and then post a simple link to a more though treatise, you call it spam!!

Then perhaps you may post a link (or spam if you wish) that shows where the LDS organization gets it's authority to do the things that occur during the Temple rites?

[restornu]

I testify that The Church of Jesus Christ is the restored Church of Jesus Christ through the Lord prophet Joseph Smith.

THE ARTICLES OF FAITH
OF THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER-DAY SAINTS
History of the Church, Vol. 4, pp. 535—541

1 We believe in God, the Eternal Father, and in His Son, Jesus Christ, and in the Holy Ghost.

2 We believe that men will be punished for their own sins, and not for Adam’s transgression.

3 We believe that through the Atonement of Christ, all mankind may be saved, by obedience to the laws and ordinances of the Gospel.

4 We believe that the first principles and ordinances of the Gospel are: first, Faith in the Lord Jesus Christ; second, Repentance; third, Baptism by immersion for the remission of sins; fourth, Laying on of hands for the gift of the Holy Ghost.

5 We believe that a man must be called of God, by prophecy, and by the laying on of hands by those who are in authority, to preach the Gospel and administer in the ordinances thereof.

6 We believe in the same organization that existed in the Primitive Church, namely, apostles, prophets, pastors, teachers, evangelists, and so forth.

7 We believe in the gift of tongues, prophecy, revelation, visions, healing, interpretation of tongues, and so forth.

8 We believe the Bible to be the word of God as far as it is translated correctly; we also believe the Book of Mormon to be the word of God.

9 We believe all that God has revealed, all that He does now reveal, and we believe that He will yet reveal many great and important things pertaining to the Kingdom of God.

10 We believe in the literal gathering of Israel and in the restoration of the Ten Tribes; that Zion (the New Jerusalem) will be built upon the American continent; that Christ will reign personally upon the earth; and, that the earth will be renewed and receive its paradisiacal glory.

11 We claim the privilege of worshiping Almighty God according to the dictates of our own conscience, and allow all men the same privilege, let them worship how, where, or what they may.

12 We believe in being subject to kings, presidents, rulers, and magistrates, in obeying, honoring, and sustaining the law.

13 We believe in being honest, true, chaste, benevolent, virtuous, and in doing good to all men; indeed, we may say that we follow the admonition of Paul—We believe all things, we hope all things, we have endured many things, and hope to be able to endure all things. If there is anything virtuous, lovely, or of good report or praiseworthy, we seek after these things.
Joseph Smith

[Elsie]

Matthew 5: 22 ...whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.

 

I guess the fellows that wrote all THESE are in bib BIG trouble!!!

 

KJV Psalms 14:1
  The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.

 

KJV Proverbs 10:18
   He that hideth hatred with lying lips, and he that uttereth a slander, is a fool.

 

KJV Proverbs 10:23
   It is as sport to a fool to do mischief: but a man of understanding hath wisdom.

 

KJV Proverbs 11:29
   He that troubleth his own house shall inherit the wind: and the fool shall be servant to the wise of heart.

 

KJV Proverbs 12:15
   The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.

 

KJV Proverbs 12:16
   A fool's wrath is presently known: but a prudent man covereth shame.

 

KJV Proverbs 13:16
  Every prudent man dealeth with knowledge: but a fool layeth open his folly.

 

KJV Proverbs 14:16
  A wise man feareth, and departeth from evil: but the fool rageth, and is confident.

 

KJV Proverbs 15:5
   A fool despiseth his father's instruction: but he that regardeth reproof is prudent.

 

KJV Proverbs 17:7
   Excellent speech becometh not a fool: much less do lying lips a prince

 

KJV Proverbs 17:10
  A reproof entereth more into a wise man than an hundred stripes into a fool.

 

KJV Proverbs 17:12
  Let a bear robbed of her whelps meet a man, rather than a fool in his folly.

 

KJV Proverbs 17:16
 Wherefore is there a price in the hand of a fool to get wisdom, seeing he hath no heart to it?

 

KJV Proverbs 17:21
  He that begetteth a fool doeth it to his sorrow: and the father of a fool hath no joy.

 

KJV Proverbs 17:24-25
 24.  Wisdom is before him that hath understanding; but the eyes of a fool are in the ends of the earth.
 25.  A foolish son is a grief to his father, and bitterness to her that bare him.

 

KJV Proverbs 17:28
   Even a fool, when he holdeth his peace, is counted wise: and he that shutteth his lips is esteemed a man of understanding.

 

KJV Proverbs 18:2
   A fool hath no delight in understanding, but that his heart may discover itself.

 

KJV Proverbs 18:6-7
 6.  A fool's lips enter into contention, and his mouth calleth for strokes.
 7.  A fool's mouth is his destruction, and his lips are the snare of his soul.

 

KJV Proverbs 19:1
   Better is the poor that walketh in his integrity, than he that is perverse in his lips, and is a fool.

 

KJV Proverbs 19:10
   Delight is not seemly for a fool; much less for a servant to have rule over princes.

 

KJV Proverbs 20:3
   It is an honour for a man to cease from strife: but every fool will be meddling.

 

KJV Proverbs 23:9
  Speak not in the ears of a fool: for he will despise the wisdom of thy words.

 

KJV Proverbs 24:7
   Wisdom is too high for a fool: he openeth not his mouth in the gate.

 

KJV Proverbs 26:1-12
 1.  As snow in summer, and as rain in harvest, so honour is not seemly for a fool.
 2.  As the bird by wandering, as the swallow by flying, so the curse causeless shall not come.
 3.  A whip for the horse, a bridle for the ass, and a rod for the fool's back.
 4.  Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest thou also be like unto him.
 5.  Answer a fool according to his folly, lest he be wise in his own conceit.
 6.  He that sendeth a message by the hand of a fool cutteth off the feet, and drinketh damage.
 7.  The legs of the lame are not equal: so is a parable in the mouth of fools.
 8.  As he that bindeth a stone in a sling, so is he that giveth honour to a fool .
 9.  As a thorn goeth up into the hand of a drunkard, so is a parable in the mouth of fools.
 10.  The great God that formed all things both rewardeth the fool, and rewardeth transgressors.
 11.  As a dog returneth to his vomit, so a fool returneth to his folly.
 12.  Seest thou a man wise in his own conceit? there is more hope of a fool than of him.

 

KJV Proverbs 27:3
   A stone is heavy, and the sand weighty; but a fool's wrath is heavier than them both.

 

KJV Proverbs 27:22
   Though thou shouldest bray a fool in a mortar among wheat with a pestle, yet will not his foolishness depart from him.

 

KJV Proverbs 28:26
   He that trusteth in his own heart is a fool: but whoso walketh wisely, he shall be delivered.

 

KJV Proverbs 29:11
   A fool uttereth all his mind: but a wise man keepeth it in till afterwards.

 

KJV Proverbs 29:20
   Seest thou a man that is hasty in his words? there is more hope of a fool than of him.

 

 

It look's like St. Paul didn't get the memo either!!

 

 

KJV Galatians 3:1
  O foolish Galatians, who hath bewitched you, that ye should not obey the truth, before whose eyes Jesus Christ hath been evidently set forth, crucified among you?

[Elsie]

Because there’s so much misinformation and ignorance running rampant out there when it comes to the LDS Church. (Duh.)

I am confused and ignorant about where the LDS organization gets it's authority for the things that are done inside those magnificent Temples.

Could you show me their Scriptural instructions to do those things?

[Elsie]

I am a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints and I wish people would stop telling lies about my faith and my candidate.

I wish they would, too!

Could you show me the scritures that point out why you folks do those rites in your Temples??

[Elsie]

Wow! I watched the entire video and I have never been more proud of Mitt Romney. He made mincemeat out of that radio talk show guy. Mincemeat. It was creepy that they videotaped Mitt without his knowledge but the outcome is definitely PRO MITT.

Fabulous. Thanks for posting it even though your intention was apparently to put Mitt down. I suppose you think not too many people will actually take the time to watch the video.

Any fair minded person who watches the video in its entirety will see that Mitt Romney handled himself spectacularly. I am so proud.

Ok....

[Elsie]

On the other hand, the LDS funkiness is right there in your doctrine.

 

Oh, but most of the 'funkiness' is NOT found ANYWHERE in their 'doctrine'!!

 

 

At least until NOW no LDS member has been able to SHOW just WHERE they get the authority to do those strange things in their Temples.

 

[Elsie]

Give the guy a break; it took guts to sit there and take all that meaningless drivel.

DRIVEL alert!

[Elsie]

Would you be horribly offended if yours came complete with its own planet?

Mormon Doctrine???

[Elsie]

“I agree. It is one of the saddest threads I’ve ever seen — full of religious bigotry and inexplicable hatred.

Inexplicably large font!!!

[Elsie]

(My interpretation of a Scripture found in Proverbs.)

My, my, my...

You are NO propht(ess)!

Mere INTERPRETATION when you could actually re-write some stuff?

No PLANET for YOU!!

[Elsie]

...and the Holy Ghost seals it as the Truth.

Proverbs 28:26
He that trusteth in his own heart is a fool: but whoso walketh wisely, he shall be delivered.

[Elsie]

How can anyone with an iota of intelligence take all this as anything but a very tall fairy tale ?

It's all Greek to me!

[Elsie]

Be open and disclose. It is a fair question.

(Probably not a real big seller in SLC!)

[Elsie]

It never hurts to be spoken to, only spoken ill of unjustly.

KJV Matthew 5:11
Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake.

[Elsie]

I’m living in a Mansion down by the River.

Mine's just over the hilltop!

[Elsie]

D&C 121:34 Behold, there are many called, but few are chosen. And why are they not chosen?

I'd like to know how a fellow gets 'chosen' to receive a 'temple recommend'.

Just what scriptures are used to do the things that occur inside side your Temples?

[Elsie]

Mal. 3: 1 (3 Ne. 24: 1) send my messenger, and he shall prepare the way before me.

Mark 1:2-4
2. It is written in Isaiah the prophet: "I will send my messenger ahead of you, who will prepare your way" --
3. "a voice of one calling in the desert, `Prepare the way for the Lord, make straight paths for him.'"
4. And so John came, baptizing in the desert region and preaching a baptism of repentance for the forgiveness of sins.

[Elsie]

THE ARTICLES OF FAITH OF THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER-DAY SAINTS

The above is the Mormon CREED!!!

[Elsie]

THE ARTICLES OF FAITH OF THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER-DAY SAINTS

The above is the Mormon CREED!!!