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Russian sub plants flag under North Pole
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Posted on 08/02/2007 6:52:18 AM PDT by nuconvert

Russian sub plants flag under North Pole

By Guy Faulconbridge

Russian explorers dived deep below the North Pole in a submersible on Thursday and planted a national flag on the seabed to stake a symbolic claim to the energy riches of the Arctic.

A mechanical arm dropped a specially made rust-proof titanium flag onto the Arctic seabed at a depth of 4,261 meters (13,980 ft), Itar-Tass news agency quoted expedition officials as saying.

Russia wants to extend right up to the North Pole the territory it controls in the Arctic, believed to hold vast reserves of untapped oil and natural gas.

But Canada mocked Russia's ambitions and said the expedition was nothing more than a show.

"This isn't the 15th century. You can't go around the world and just plant flags and say 'We're claiming this territory'," Canadian Foreign Minister Peter MacKay told CTV television.

Under international law, the five states with territory inside the Arctic Circle -- Canada, Norway, Russia, the United States and Denmark via its control of Greenland -- have a 320 km (200 mile) economic zone around the north of their coastline.

Russia is claiming a larger slice extending as far as the pole because, Moscow says, the Arctic seabed and Siberia are linked by one continental shelf.

"Then Russia can give foundation to its claim to more than a million square kilometers of the oceanic shelf," said a newsreader for Russia's state news channel Vesti-24, which made the expedition their top news story.

"It was a soft landing," Tass quoted expedition leader Artur Chilingarov as saying from on board one of the submersibles.

The rest of the expedition team, floating on a support vessel between the giant ice sheets of the Arctic, broke into applause when news came through the mission had been completed.

"There is yellowish gravel down here. No creatures of the deep are visible," said Chilingarov, 67, a veteran Arctic explorer and parliament deputy for the pro-Kremlin party.

ARCTIC ADVENTURE

Expedition leaders have said their main worry is to resurface at the ice hole where they dived as the mini-submersibles are not strong enough to break through the North Pole's deep ice cap.

One of the aims of the expedition is to allow oceanographers to study the seabed and establish that Russia and the North Pole are part of the same shelf.

"The aim of this expedition is not to stake Russia's claim but to show that our shelf reaches to the North Pole," Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov told reporters in Manila, where he is attending a regional security conference.

The Mir-1 submersible reached the seabed at 1208 Moscow time (4:08 a.m. EDT).

A second Russian submersible, manned by Swedish businessman Frederik Paulsen and Australian adventurer Mike McDowell, reached the seabed 27 minutes later. It reached a depth of 4,302 meters.

Soviet and U.S. nuclear submarines have often traveled under the polar icecap, but no one had reached the seabed under the Pole, where depths exceed 4,000 meters (13,100 feet).

(Additional reporting by Christian Lowe in Moscow and David Ljunggren in Charlottetown, Prince Edward Island, Canada)


TOPICS: Canada; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: arcticcircle; canada; energy; environment; geopolitics; northpole; russia
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To: nuconvert
I support ANYONE who will suck that oil out of the ground. Especially in a place as inhospitable as this. The U.S. may learn something from this IF they actually develop this area, more natural resources on the Global Market means better lives for the rest of us. To think all we have to do is go to the Gulf of Mexico, off the shores of Florida, Anwar, seems like a walk in the park.
21 posted on 08/02/2007 7:39:07 AM PDT by PEACE ENFORCER (Liberals want the U.S. Constitution Struck Down as Unconstitutional.)
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To: nuconvert

The commies can take the North Pole from us when they pry it from my cold, dead hands.

My really, really freezing-cold dead hands... ;)

Fletcher J


22 posted on 08/02/2007 7:45:22 AM PDT by Fletcher J
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To: nuconvert
Wouldn’t Santa have squatter’s rights? This might get ugly.
23 posted on 08/02/2007 7:51:23 AM PDT by 4yearlurker (If you want to be lied to ,turn on your TV!)
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To: nuconvert
Russian sub plants flag under North Pole

Guess the Kursk drifted a little bit north before they finally found her eh?
24 posted on 08/02/2007 8:01:57 AM PDT by mkjessup (Jan 20, 2009 - "We Don't Know. Where Rudy Went. Just Glad He's Not. The President. Burma Shave.")
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To: Fletcher J
Cold War again?

Shouldn’t Santa have a say in this?

25 posted on 08/02/2007 8:10:44 AM PDT by cjmae (Sanity was not equally distributed)
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To: Bushwacker777
Let the Russians have it — we have too many environmental kooks to ever be able to get at the resources anyway.

Hey nutso environmentalists please go the North Pole and protest the potential disaster to the polar bears and other NP animals. The Russians are very easy people to deal with, they absolutely love American liberals and will be sincerely touched by your concern. Please feel free to stay for a while - possibly forever. Oh, and while you are there, please say hello to Santa for me.

26 posted on 08/02/2007 8:18:24 AM PDT by Bitsy
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To: CodeToad

ROFL!


27 posted on 08/02/2007 8:24:32 AM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Elections have consequences.)
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To: CodeToad
ROFL!

Mars too!

28 posted on 08/02/2007 8:25:14 AM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Elections have consequences.)
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To: Lazamataz
[I guess the MOON is ours, then.]

No oil.

Pssssst: Dilithium crystals.

29 posted on 08/02/2007 8:27:45 AM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Elections have consequences.)
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To: nuconvert

"Do you have a flag?"

30 posted on 08/02/2007 9:01:34 AM PDT by pogo101
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To: Lazamataz
I guess the MOON is ours, then.

No oil.

No oil, but plenty of He3, once we fgure out how to fuse it

http://fti.neep.wisc.edu/neep602/lecture33.html

31 posted on 08/02/2007 9:14:21 AM PDT by jmcenanly
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To: Bushwacker777
"Let the Russians have it — we have too many environmental kooks to ever be able to get at the resources anyway."

Ain't that the truth! It would be less hassle to just buy the Arctic oil from the Russians. Although a nice touch would be for the Russians to contract Halliburton in the project -- just to piss the liberals off.

32 posted on 08/02/2007 9:16:44 AM PDT by avacado
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To: 4yearlurker

And it could get much uglier! Soon canada will be up there with their shiny new ships, demanding theirs. THEN you’ll see some action - the polar bears will be getting this on video, it will be so exciting. If there’s a betting pool, I’ll put $20. on Santa, though: that flying sleigh is going to be hard to beat. And he elves!!


33 posted on 08/02/2007 9:49:25 AM PDT by twonie (Keep your guns - and stockpile ammo.)
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham
"Mars too!"

Got it covered.


34 posted on 08/02/2007 10:59:25 AM PDT by CodeToad
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To: nuconvert
This is the first boat to carry ANY flag under the North Pole:

It didn't plant it but it carried OUR flag there. The NP is ours.
35 posted on 08/02/2007 1:47:55 PM PDT by NCC-1701 (PUT AN END TO ORGANIZED CRIME. ABOLISH THE I.R.S.)
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To: CodeToad
And would you like your Happy Meal for here or to go?

Uh, to go, I guess.

And where would you be going?

Um, Mars?

36 posted on 08/02/2007 6:03:57 PM PDT by 4woodenboats (DefendOurMarines.com)
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To: jonascord

Japs, not ruskies.


37 posted on 08/02/2007 6:07:50 PM PDT by Clam Digger
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To: nuconvert

Well, since the Russians just now reached the North Pole and are the first people ever to go there, isn’t it theirs?

I mean, noone else has ever arrived there before today have they?

Finders keepers and all that?

(Eskimos? What Eskimos?)


38 posted on 08/02/2007 6:37:07 PM PDT by OldArmy52 (Bush's Legacy: 100 million new Dem voters in next 20 yrs via the 2007 Amnesty Act.)
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To: 4woodenboats

I bet McDs has enough preservatives to make it to Mars!


39 posted on 08/02/2007 8:06:27 PM PDT by CodeToad
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To: nuconvert

if the other arctic nations had a pair of cajones between them, they’d issue a summons to putin for littering...

go UN make us proud, defend your LOST treaty by squashing this russian act with inPUTINity...

teeman


40 posted on 08/03/2007 4:30:06 AM PDT by teeman8r
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