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Russia to sink flag to Arctic Sea floor in oil, land grab
http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/asiapcf/08/01/arctic.grab.ap/index.html?eref=rss_topstories ^

Posted on 08/01/2007 8:39:00 PM PDT by NOOBIE

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To: cpdiii

I agree and your correct but I am also now going to factor in the mood of the era. Tens of millions of people had died, four years of intense warfare and the entire country sacrificing for the cause in all ways.

I agreed with MacArthur on China/North Korea to use our atomic arsenal and secure the peace, after all it was China whom decided to enter the fray and cost us a lot of American lives.

However, with Russia, your opinion/strategy based on the Generals of the day (whom actually recommended nuking Moscow) may have extended the war but with Russia as the adversary. Stalin was a madman and would have over-ran our forces in Europe, even at the loss of Moscow due to an atomic strike. Stalin at that point had a lot of access to sensitive rocket/jet/nuclear materials from the Nazis and could have built their own A-bombs. Our arsenal was a few weapons, it’s wasn’t like we had dozens at that point.

We sacrified Eastern Europe which held very little value to our country to avoid any further bloodshed and history demonstrated this was the right move. The EU and Nato has expanded membership and turned Eastern Europe into democracies, we didn’t give up on those people, it just took a few decades and almost zero blood spilt on the Allies side. Even the Cold War gave us very advanced technology such as our space program as side benefit and certainly massive economic booms while competing with the Soviets.

Russia is fighting back now against the Democratic hedgemony feeling this land was earned in blood from WWII but in reality, the nations of Eastern Europe themselves have chosen their own course. Russia is once again becoming very dangerous and our allies had better beef up security big time and accelerate energy independance. If the West had energy independance we would care very little what Russia did at this point in the world.


41 posted on 08/02/2007 9:06:32 AM PDT by quant5
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To: TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig

I don’t think the nuclear green glowing hammer and sickle flags count


42 posted on 08/02/2007 9:58:36 AM PDT by Horatio Gates (8/7/07 - It's salmon week on the Horatio Gates channel.)
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To: NOOBIE

The United States discovered the North Pole.


43 posted on 08/02/2007 10:05:39 AM PDT by GinaLolaB
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To: Thunder90
>>>>>Someday, that flag will fly over the Kremlin again.<<<<<<

Over 60 million Russians were murdered under this flag. More likely to see that flag over the WH some day.


44 posted on 08/02/2007 1:24:22 PM PDT by DTA (Advice to Condi: when you are in a hole, stop digging)
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To: NOOBIE

You can’t just drop a flag on the corner. You have to walk around for a while, build a cabin, live in it for three years. Then maybe the claim will be considered, if it proves up.


45 posted on 08/02/2007 1:29:06 PM PDT by RightWhale (It's Brecht's donkey, not mine)
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To: All
US REJECTS
CANADA REJECTS
ROTFL!!!

I'm not sure of whether they've put a metal flag, a rubber flag or a bed sheet on the ocean floor," said State Department spokesman Tom Casey.

"I don't think that ... whether they went and spray-painted a flag of Russia on those particular ridges is going to make one iota of difference," Casey said.

"Look, this isn't the 15th century. You can't go around the world and plant flags and say, 'We're claiming this territory'," Foreign Minister Peter MacKay told broadcaster CTV.
46 posted on 08/02/2007 3:49:22 PM PDT by FreedomNeocon (Success is not final; Failure is not fatal; it is the courage to continue that counts -- Churchill)
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To: ken21

Who will tell them no?


47 posted on 08/02/2007 3:50:29 PM PDT by listenhillary (¿Qué parter DE "illegal" ousted no entente?)
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To: Sax

The “cheap mark down” flag was the one in use prior to the Bolsheviks coming to power, dating all the way back to the 1600s!


48 posted on 08/02/2007 7:27:23 PM PDT by Killborn (BASH BUSH!! All the COOL kids are doing it!!!! Perfect for people with no logic or reason!)
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To: Cobra64

Saddam Hussein had the technology in 1990.


49 posted on 08/03/2007 12:14:19 AM PDT by jwh_Denver (Ok, it's time for the Republicans to start ripping themselves apart.)
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