Posted on 08/01/2007 4:28:27 PM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo
Just turned on the news. 35W bridge collapsed in the Mississippi River. Cars, trucks, semis.....
Fires burning, tanker trucks, at least one school bus, more than ten cars......
Just now breaking.......
Thanks.
Thank you for the video link. That clip is chilling.
Prayers for them all.
OH YES, there are TRAFFIC CAMS, I have SEEN them on that Bridge - It’ll be worse that pulling teeth to release them.......
Thank you, we are also very lucky to have Gov. Tim Pawlenty. (And that’s Paw-len-tee, not Paw-len-tay as the Washington folk seem to think.)
Okay, it’s just me. I would probably not be on an adjacent bridge after a tragedy like this.
Actually, no probably about it. I live in Stillwater and we have an old historic bridge they have discussed replacing for decades. Environmentalists have delayed progress...
It's there, we just gotta demand the release........
Yesterday, it was reported that divers were recording plate numbers. I wanted to scream at my TV, "Your morons!"
It has been a total joke and has actually been responsible for several fatalities already (one car and a biker). It has been a total waste of money.
“it has actually contributed to increasing traffic (cars stopping in downtown waiting for the train to go buy, causing more congestion”
LOL people love to complain about this (trains like this are very short, BTW), but not for buses. Buses stop at various points at every block and in older cities, are always blocking that lane. Sometimes even blocking the next lane, as they stick out into it because cars are already parked near their loading stop. Buses are traffic congestion-creators, too.
Plus, as a rider, you are subject to the same traffic problems as cars - a major traffic jam, you’re not going anywhere. Trains generally get where they are going - and we know exactly where they will be, because there are tracks to see. Unlike buses which might muck up every lane!
Buses do not cost billions. You can add buses to the road and take them off cheaply. Don’t know where you come from but up here we have a bus / car pool lane (two or more in a car can use it). So buses do not block traffic. Sorry but you have no clue about MN infrastructure.
It was; they used the middle of the sequence that I saw on KARE-11 TV. If you look at the start of that clip, the bridge is down, then they loop back to the start of the collapse. In the original, you could tell that the near side (out of the scene to the far right) of the bridge dropped first, then pulled the rest down and away from the far bank and king-posts.
Live local coverage.....http://kstp.com/article/stories/S106209.shtml?cat=1
That was my conclusion from the video as well. And then the next span over land on the far side pivoted away as the counterbalance from the overwater span disappeared.
OK you are right......middle school
No, I don’t, but I’m just generalizing. You have HOV lanes IN the CITY? Our cities are too old for that. We don’t have special HOV or turn-off lanes to accomodate buses. The streets were long ago for general traffic and no special accomodations were added (besides, you know how many people here get angry about little-used wasted HOV lanes).
I do agree buses don’t require the infrastructure to add. And per unit they are cheap. But thousands of buses also costs, including maintenance, and gasoline (the later almost invariably the means).
Again, point is, there is much more that is diverting funds than simply “public x”. WELFARE being a major contributor in almost all these socialist states.
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