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NRO: Fusion Candidate (Ron Paul)
National Review Online ^ | August 01, 2007 | Todd Seavey

Posted on 08/01/2007 7:00:48 AM PDT by George W. Bush



Fusion Candidate


The congressman from Texas has something for all conservatives.

By Todd Seavey

John Derbyshire is wrong to resist the Ron Paul Temptation. Embrace it. Embrace it: conservatives, libertarians, pro-lifers…Right-minded Americans, all.

Sure, Paul, currently hovering in the single digits in polls, looks at first glance like a textbook case of a fringe candidate. And that’s unfortunate, because he ought instead to be our next president — and would be if he made it to the general election, since in a one-on-one match-up with likely Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton, he could fare remarkably well.

That means Paul’s greatest obstacle is the Republican primary process. Since he wants to do virtually everything conservatives have long dreamed of with the office of the presidency, what’s stalling his chances is a herd-like desire to vote for the candidate who already seems likely to win the primaries. Democrats won’t keep him from the White House; it would be tragic, then, if Republicans stopped him themselves.

Recall, first, the big issue that likely cost the Republicans control of Congress in 2006 and turned George Bush into a lame duck: the Iraq War. Now, thanks largely to testy comments from his fellow candidate Rudy Giuliani, Paul is known as the sole antiwar Republican candidate. I realize how strongly many of his fellow Republicans disagree with him on that issue — I’m not as isolationist on military matters as Paul either (almost no one is) and have long hoped that the Iraq effort will turn out better than expected.

But it now appears that even the unambitious goal of stopping frequent bombings in Baghdad is proving to be, shall we all admit, tricky. And since the pro-war position is widely regarded as the thing dragging Republican congressional candidates down in ’06 and prospective Republican presidential candidates down in the polls for ’08, it would be a delightful turn if antiwar sentiment ended up redounding to the advantage of conservatives, in the form of Ron Paul’s election.

And think of the undeserved riches that would then be ours: Paul is an across-the-board libertarian on economic issues. He wants to abolish most Cabinet agencies (aside from State, Justice, and a radically whittled-down Defense). He has tried (unsuccessfully) to return the U.S. to the gold standard and has made clear his desire to dismantle the IRS immediately

And for those who say it can’t happen, here’s the beauty part: Get Paul through the primaries, to the Republican nomination, and he has the tools to take on Hillary. He plainly gets the libertarian swing voters that the Republicans lost in 2006, he should garner most conservative votes when contrasted with Hillary, and — here’s the clincher — he gets a huge share of the bourgeoning antiwar vote to boot. Think about it: Clinton has already alienated the substantial antiwar faction of the Democratic party, while Ron Paul has inspired a supportive banner even at an anarchist rally full of hippies and punks, urging people to join the Ron Paul “love revolution.”

But don’t let that fool you into thinking he’s some flower-child. A seventy-two-year-old conservative Texan, Ron Paul is also one of the most pro-life members of Congress, wants better border enforcement, and, as a doctor, prefers to allow the states to manage the war on drugs, rather than praising drugs, as some less cautious libertarians are prone to do.

Presto! The much-lamented divide between social conservatives and fiscal conservatives, which has seemed to be widening lately, is eliminated. As has oft been said, Republicans tend to fare best when they pursue the program (pioneered by National Review and praised last year by Ryan Sager in his book Elephant in the Room) called “fusionism,” yoking together social conservatism and the libertarian desire to shrink government. Both Giuliani and McCain, for example, have some fusionist qualities, sounding tough on military matters and fiscal matters — but no one’s more fusionist than a pro-lifer who genuinely wants to dismantle the entire welfare state. And if you’re nervous about Paul’s “going too far,” keep in mind the president only executes the laws — he doesn’t make them. There are limits to what even a president can do, but it’d sure be nice to have one pushing in a small-government conservative direction for the first time since Reagan, and arguably the first time since Coolidge.

Continuing conservative support for the Iraq war is certainly an issue (note that Paul voted for the Afghan war, so he’s not a complete pacifist), but surely it’s not the be-all and end-all of conservatism. As popular support for the war fades, and if we do not meet with the successes forecast by the architects of the “surge,” might not even the most pro-war conservatives be willing to budge a bit on that possibly doomed and politically damning issue? Hawks may be reluctant to shift, but for many conservatives it may well be worth it to have a president with true conservative values.

Do conservatives not really want all the things Paul has to offer? Then why do we fight at all? If it’s merely for power and mainstream acceptance, one might as well support Hillary Clinton or wait until after November 2008 and support whoever comes out on top. But if we want a radically smaller government — precisely that thing that a Republican Congress neglected to do for the last twelve years, which has created the current mood of conservative frustration — we must support Ron Paul. Remember how small government was at the nation’s founding and consider how perhaps even conservatives have since then become de facto socialists, accepting the leviathan state as inevitable. But it’s not inevitable if they vote against it when history hands them that chance.

Todd Seavey lives in New York City and blogs at ToddSeavey.com.



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To: trisham
You're right about the Reagan agenda. It's what I am hoping for in Fred.

Well, we're in agreement then. Reagan it is! And I have no great problems with Fred thus far. Maybe a few quibbles but I think I can overlook those given his strengths. I hope he's as brave as Ron Paul has been.

With the right candidate and the Reagan-Gingrich agenda, we can have a 50-state Reagan landslide and recapture Congress.
81 posted on 08/01/2007 11:34:29 AM PDT by George W. Bush (Rudy: tough on terror, scared of Iowa, wets himself over YouTube)
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To: George W. Bush
With the right candidate and the Reagan-Gingrich agenda, we can have a 50-state Reagan landslide and recapture Congress.

***************

LOL! I have goosebumps. :)

82 posted on 08/01/2007 11:37:16 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: trisham
After seeing the effect that Reagan message has on Belgians (!), I'm not surprised.

It's time to finish the Reagan Revolution! Both here and around the world.
83 posted on 08/01/2007 11:41:03 AM PDT by George W. Bush (Rudy: tough on terror, scared of Iowa, wets himself over YouTube)
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To: George W. Bush

Amen.


84 posted on 08/01/2007 11:41:42 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Petronski

I can only assume you are lumping Bush in with Carter. Please tell me it not your intent.


85 posted on 08/01/2007 11:47:20 AM PDT by Orange1998 (4 Real)
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To: Petronski

I can only assume you are lumping Bush in with Carter. Please tell me it not your intent.


86 posted on 08/01/2007 11:47:23 AM PDT by Orange1998 (4 Real)
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To: Petronski

I can only assume you are lumping Bush in with Carter. Please tell me it not your intent.


87 posted on 08/01/2007 11:47:44 AM PDT by Orange1998 (4 Real)
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To: ConservativeDude
You can blame the leaders who you say “force us toward 3rd party candidates”. I am not. I am going to blame the voters who fell for Ross Perot’s line of BS. They were blind to the fact that Perot was on clinton’s team. It was a plan that came together beautiful, twice. Who woudda thunk it?
88 posted on 08/01/2007 12:01:41 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: Orange1998

Of course not. He posted a silly non sequitur, so I posted one too.


89 posted on 08/01/2007 1:42:55 PM PDT by Petronski (imwithfred.com)
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard; Virginia Ridgerunner; Petronski; George W. Bush

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"And in the blue corner, wearing an off the rack suit, Goldwater ’64 lapel pin and a belt 2 sizes too small...weighing in at 141 pounds soaking wet...the fiscal conservatives, the last champions of limited government...from the Western States...The Libertarians!" (wild applause)

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Feel free to subsititute neo-con for Evangelical.

90 posted on 08/01/2007 5:02:24 PM PDT by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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To: Eric Blair 2084
Feel free to subsititute neo-con for Evangelical.

I dunno. Whose permission would we have to get before using That Word anyway? LOL.
91 posted on 08/01/2007 6:34:55 PM PDT by George W. Bush (Rudy: tough on terror, scared of Iowa, wets himself over YouTube)
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To: George W. Bush
Todd Seavey makes a sound conservative argument for Ron Paul. Certainly, Ron Paul's opposition to the war is a stumbling block for some Republicans. (If only George W. Nixon wanted to win the war as bad as his war supporters do.) Unfortunately, simple minds interpret his comments against the war to be an echo of "blame the US." It isn't and he's consistent. He's blaming the globalists. Recently, we've heard of $150-190 billion going to Palestinians; arms deals with Saudis who were 17 of the 19 terrorists and US visas for thousands of Muslims. Globalists don't have a very good record and I don't fault Ron Paul for opposing them.

It is mystifying that freerepublic, a forum established to promote conservatism, seems to dismiss the only Republican candidate that actually represents conservatism. Sadly, many Republicans view the primary process as a horse race. Pick your horse to win now and stay with him 'til the end. It could do the Republican party good if a vast majority of freepers got behind Ron Paul if only to drive the rest of the candidates to the right. Instead, Republicans seem to have gotten behind the one candidate who is a better fit for the Democrat party...Rudy. Or, one who is an empty suit save for his close ties to McCain and McCain/Feingold.

How is conservatism ever going to get a chance to shine if conservatives don't have the spine to get behind one during the primary process?

92 posted on 08/01/2007 6:36:38 PM PDT by Nephi ( $100m ante is a symptom of the old media... the Ron Paul Revolution is the new media's choice.)
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To: George W. Bush

They all piss me off. Everyone pisses me off. You piss me off. I piss myself off.

That’s why I love Ron Paul despite his weakness on national defense. Any politician who is in favor of Gubmint leaving people the Hell alone and not pissing them off is a friend of mine.

We all have enough things to piss us off without any help from the Gubmint who is supposed to be our servant but thinks they are our masters.


93 posted on 08/01/2007 7:02:32 PM PDT by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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To: Nephi
Todd Seavey makes a sound conservative argument for Ron Paul. Certainly, Ron Paul's opposition to the war is a stumbling block for some Republicans. (If only George W. Nixon wanted to win the war as bad as his war supporters do.) Unfortunately, simple minds interpret his comments against the war to be an echo of "blame the US." It isn't and he's consistent. He's blaming the globalists. Recently, we've heard of $150-190 billion going to Palestinians; arms deals with Saudis who were 17 of the 19 terrorists and US visas for thousands of Muslims. Globalists don't have a very good record and I don't fault Ron Paul for opposing them.

As I've pointed out, by the time of the primaries, our troops will be coming home, one way or the other. It's clear from observing many in the Senate that the GOP will cooperate once they get a Petraeus report this fall, perhaps stalling until November or so. We've all been very generous about supporting Bush and trying to believe him and have confidence that he has a plan when for several years there, he simply didn't have one.

As for Ron Paul's comments about "blowback" and our presence in the Mideast, it underlines the fundamental point: the mullahs and jihadi recruit by using our presence in the region, close to their oil, on holy ground in Saudi Arabia (that place they grovel to five times a day and where they don't want infidels, especially Christians, infidel indecent women and especially Jewish servicemen). Now as time progressed and they built their numbers, they did expand to a broader apocalyptic recruiting tactic involving their false Islamic messiah and the re-establishment of the Caliphate but on a global basis. Currently, we face this dual-pronged recruiting tactic. And their response directly correlates to our presence in the region, a historical consistency with British and French experience in the region.

It is mystifying that freerepublic, a forum established to promote conservatism, seems to dismiss the only Republican candidate that actually represents conservatism. Sadly, many Republicans view the primary process as a horse race. Pick your horse to win now and stay with him 'til the end. It could do the Republican party good if a vast majority of freepers got behind Ron Paul if only to drive the rest of the candidates to the right. Instead, Republicans seem to have gotten behind the one candidate who is a better fit for the Democrat party...Rudy. Or, one who is an empty suit save for his close ties to McCain and McCain/Feingold.

Certainly, every election is a horse race. That's just human nature. But when picking your horse, shouldn't you pick your strongest performer, that Reagan horse? Shouldn't you want all the horses in the race to be sired (ideologically) by the old stud, Ol' Reagan? Of course. Because that message is how we win.

As for your "empty suit", I don't agree. It's not at all clear. As you might know, FDT had script control so they couldn't force him to recite liberal lines and in an episode of L&O replayed a few weeks ago at the end of the show, they were discussing the Middle East and a case that involved terrorism and Islam. The last line of the show, uttered by FDT: "It's called blowback." Clearly, FDT has read the CIA reports, the 9/11 Commission, and the Iraq Study Group, all of which employ this concept as a commonplace. In addition, FDT came of age in the late Fifties and early Sixties as a young man in a conservative Southern town. He is far more likely than the rest of the field to be more like an Eisenhower (or a Reagan) in challenging repressive regimes but not engaging in regime change, something Ike condemned absolutely and publicly. So we should not bash FDT as a hopeless cause. He does have the brains to wait and see how the surge works before committing and he is already closer to Ron Paul in public statements than any other candidate in the GOP field.

I don't mind if FDT joins Ron Paul on these positions. I'd like the entire GOP field to do so.

How is conservatism ever going to get a chance to shine if conservatives don't have the spine to get behind one during the primary process?

Exactly. Complain there's no Reagan, no Reagan agenda, then don't vote for the one candidate who offers it boldly and without reservation, then blame someone else because you wouldn't vote for you say you want. Irrational.
94 posted on 08/01/2007 7:12:33 PM PDT by George W. Bush (Rudy: tough on terror, scared of Iowa, wets himself over YouTube)
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To: Eric Blair 2084
That’s why I love Ron Paul despite his weakness on national defense.

Hate to break it but Ron Paul was an early and vocal supporter of the Star Wars program along with Reagan. He certainly believes in defending our country with a strong well-equipped military.

I'm afraid he really isn't the little peacenik the Paul-haters would depict as. He does believe in spending for a strong defense because the Founders wrote about that federal responsibility at such length and so unanimously. They were also unanimous about the dangers of a standing army and foreign adventures (Iraq).
95 posted on 08/01/2007 7:16:40 PM PDT by George W. Bush (Rudy: tough on terror, scared of Iowa, wets himself over YouTube)
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To: George W. Bush

Wow! You really know your stuff. Keep up the good work.

I was in college at the time. I was more concerned with foosball and beer pong.

Having said that, this Iraq global social engineering experiment may eventually work out. We live in a world that glorifies instant results...microwave popcorn, instant messaging, fax machines, 24 hour cable news...

Only time will tell. We’ll know in 20 years.

If Iraq turns into a Shi’a theocratic satellite state controlled by Iran that threatens the region...the Iraq invasion was a miserable idea.

If Iraq turns into a shining beacon of freedom that draws envy from neighboring Arab states and their citizens and encourages autocrats in the Mid East to be dragged kicking and screaming into modern times along with their eager and angry populace...

Than you, George W. Bush, will have his face carved permanently into Mt. Rushmoore for your great, great grandkids to see 150 years from now.


96 posted on 08/01/2007 7:35:04 PM PDT by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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To: George W. Bush
since in a one-on-one match-up with likely Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton, he could fare remarkably well.

Hillary can talk to the right of Rudy, Mitt, John, and even Fred. But she can not talk more Conservative than Ron Paul. If the GOP choices can't out debate Ron Paul on Conservative issues then she sure can't.

97 posted on 08/02/2007 1:45:37 AM PDT by cva66snipe (Proud Partisan Constitution Supporting Conservative to which I make no apologies for nor back down)
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To: roses of sharon

FYI, Alex Jones has a very popular Sunday radio program on KLBJ AM in Austin, the same station that carries Rush Limbaugh and and Neil Boortz 5 days a week. Paul doesn’t agree with Alex Jones on the issues, but he’s running a bare bones campaign and he’ll take media exposure where he can get it. He’s also gone on the Alan Colmes Fox radio program and next week he’ll be on Laura Ingraham’s show.


98 posted on 08/04/2007 4:19:29 PM PDT by CenTexConfederate
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To: George W. Bush

“Get Paul through the primaries, to the Republican nomination, and he has the tools to take on Hillary. He plainly gets the libertarian swing voters that the Republicans lost in 2006, he should garner most conservative votes when contrasted with Hillary, and — here’s the clincher — he gets a huge share of the bourgeoning antiwar vote to boot.”

Bears repeating.


99 posted on 08/04/2007 9:16:57 PM PDT by LibertarianInExile (Desperate for another George P. Bush-endorsed CFR 'conservative' in DC? Vote Fred!)
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To: LibertarianInExile

Especially because Hitlery won’t apologize for supporting the war. She loses the indie antiwar vote, some of the Lefties (though Nader might run), etc.


100 posted on 08/04/2007 10:54:11 PM PDT by George W. Bush (Rudy: tough on terror, scared of Iowa, wets himself over YouTube)
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