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Cannabis joint hits lungs like 5 cigarettes (alarmism strikes again)
ABC Australia ^ | 31 July 2007 | Too ashamed to say

Posted on 08/01/2007 6:18:22 AM PDT by PreciousLiberty

Smoking a single joint of cannabis has the same impact on breathing capacity as up to five cigarettes, a new study shows.

The researchers say this may be because cannabis users tend to inhale more deeply and, because joints are smoked without a filter, the smoke is hotter when it hits the lungs.

Researchers from the Medical Research Institute of New Zealand publish their findings online in the journal Thorax.

Doctors recruited 339 volunteers who were divided into four categories: those who smoked only cannabis, those who smoked only tobacco, those who smoked both, and those who smoked neither.

Cannabis-only smokers were defined as those who had smoked the equivalent of at least one joint a day for five years; tobacco-only smokers were those who had smoked the equivalent of a packet of cigarettes a day for at least a year.

The participants were scanned by computed tomography (CT) to get a high-definition image of their lungs and were given tests to assess their airflow, or respiratory efficiency.

The researchers found the most serious damage in tobacco smokers - both tobacco-only and combined users - who were the only volunteers to have emphysema, a degenerative and crippling lung disease.

Cannabis smokers had lighter symptoms, such as wheeze, cough, chest tightness and phlegm, which tobacco smokers also had.

But the CT scan also revealed that, among cannabis smokers, fine damage had occurred to their lungs.

(Excerpt) Read more at abc.net.au ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: addled; cannabis; confiscation; fascism; freedom; fryyourbrain; letsgetstupid; marijuana; medicine; stupidity; whoneedsabrain; wodlist; zealotry
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To: GeorgefromGeorgia

“I despise the odor of MJ (I have smelled it in public). I don’t smoke tobacco, and cannot imagine ever smoking anything.
My exposure to people that smoked pot has not been good. I have nothing good to say about dope of any kind, even dope like MJ.”

What about dope like a good Tennessee bourbon? heh


61 posted on 08/01/2007 8:44:48 AM PDT by PreciousLiberty
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To: PreciousLiberty

They were 18 or so. They WERE heading towards college.


62 posted on 08/01/2007 8:45:13 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Rennes Templar
“Marijuana wreaks havoc on brain’s memory cells”

you haven't learned to love short term memory loss till you've had two open heart surgeries

63 posted on 08/01/2007 8:46:48 AM PDT by wardaddy (dirty white boy)
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To: mysterio

So you’re saying the medical researchers in the study were lying? On what basis?

A joint DOESN’T hit the lungs like 5 cigarettes? It DOESN’T cause the lung damage that showed up on the CAT scans? Did they falsify the results to prove the point they wanted?


64 posted on 08/01/2007 8:48:14 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom

“A joint DOESN’T hit the lungs like 5 cigarettes? It DOESN’T cause the lung damage that showed up on the CAT scans? Did they falsify the results to prove the point they wanted?”

Perhaps you should read (or re–read) my post regarding water.

Then read (or re-read) the several points I made that could also have been made in the story.

Understand now?


65 posted on 08/01/2007 8:49:58 AM PDT by PreciousLiberty
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To: PreciousLiberty
Well, yeah.


66 posted on 08/01/2007 8:50:03 AM PDT by Larry Lucido (Hunter 2008)
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To: PreciousLiberty

That’s not an answer to the question.

Why is it alarmism to tell what happens when you smoke pot, or cigarettes, or warn people of the danger of anything?

I don’t see them flipping out about it. They’re just told what they found.

Alarmism is a typical liberals reaction to global warming; *We’re all going to diiiiieeeee!!!!!” I just don’t see that here.


67 posted on 08/01/2007 8:52:18 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom

“That’s not an answer to the question.

Why is it alarmism to tell what happens when you smoke pot, or cigarettes, or warn people of the danger of anything?

I don’t see them flipping out about it. They’re just told what they found.

Alarmism is a typical liberals reaction to global warming; *We’re all going to diiiiieeeee!!!!!” I just don’t see that here.”

I see. I thought the logic was obvious.

Doesn’t it seem that in an article where “smoking a joint” was directly equated with “smoking five cigarettes”, it should have been pointed out that the best, most recent research shows that, unlike tobacco, smoking marijuana doesn’t cause cancer?

The other issues are similar.


68 posted on 08/01/2007 8:55:51 AM PDT by PreciousLiberty
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To: metmom
So you’re saying the medical researchers in the study were lying? On what basis?

My opinion? Yes, I think they are skewing the results in an organized campaign to recriminalize marijuana possession in Britain.

A joint DOESN’T hit the lungs like 5 cigarettes?

The studies I posted say no. Didn't bother to read them, did you?

It DOESN’T cause the lung damage that showed up on the CAT scans? Did they falsify the results to prove the point they wanted?

According to non-politically motivated studies, smoking marijuana does not have the same cancer risk as tobacco cigarettes. I think they cherry picked data to reach a predetermined, politically motivated conclusion. They are drug warrior zealots participating in an organized disinformation campaign, after all.
69 posted on 08/01/2007 8:57:55 AM PDT by mysterio
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To: GeorgefromGeorgia

there are pot snobs like my little brother that really go ape over little nuances in weed like AK-47, Mississippi Mud, etc

some smells very skunky

others more cloyingly sweet


70 posted on 08/01/2007 8:58:23 AM PDT by wardaddy (dirty white boy)
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To: Larry Lucido

Cigarette equivalent: 6,000

lol


71 posted on 08/01/2007 8:58:39 AM PDT by PreciousLiberty
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To: Vasilli22
Thank you for posting a picture of mysterio.
72 posted on 08/01/2007 9:02:35 AM PDT by verity (Muhammed and Harry Reid are Dirt Bags)
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To: verity

“Thank you for posting a picture of mysterio.”

Ah, the ad hominem...the last refuge of the intellectually bereft.


73 posted on 08/01/2007 9:04:35 AM PDT by PreciousLiberty
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To: PreciousLiberty
Are you a pot-head, libertarian or both?
74 posted on 08/01/2007 9:08:04 AM PDT by verity (Muhammed and Harry Reid are Dirt Bags)
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To: PreciousLiberty

I would agree, besides, IF joints caused that much damage there should be overwhelming evidence of that in lung cancer statistics. I knew enough people who smoked pot like fiends in high school, college and afterwards...you’d think they’d be dropping like flies, but they aren’t.


75 posted on 08/01/2007 9:13:59 AM PDT by Paco
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To: mysterio

Yeah, right. Zealots. When all else fails resort to name calling.


76 posted on 08/01/2007 9:15:12 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: verity

“Are you a pot-head, libertarian or both?”

In the current climate one would be insane to admit to cannabis use. Therefore, my answer would be intrinsically untrustworthy. You’ll have to make your own assessment.

Perhaps I’ll publish a memoir in a few more years.

I already answered your other question.


77 posted on 08/01/2007 9:15:30 AM PDT by PreciousLiberty
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To: metmom

“Yeah, right. Zealots. When all else fails resort to name calling.”

A rose by any other name...


78 posted on 08/01/2007 9:16:49 AM PDT by PreciousLiberty
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To: Paco

Not everyone who smokes cigarettes gets lung cancer either.

If you could find enough people who smoked only pot like cigarettes for the number of years that people smoke cigarettes before they get lung cancer, then that might be a valid comparison.

Problem is, the results are likely to be skewed because of the number of people who smoke pot AND cigarettes; and finding ONLY pot smokers who smoke that heavily is probably going to be difficult.


79 posted on 08/01/2007 9:20:04 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: PreciousLiberty
If marijuana could be grown legally (or it were otherwise less expensive), more people would eat it rather than smoking it.

Is this just something you think might happen, or is there some evidence of this?

80 posted on 08/01/2007 9:22:47 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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