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Cheney Says He Was Wrong About Iraq Insurgency in `Last Throes'
http://news.yahoo.com/s/bloomberg/20070731/pl_bloomberg/axffeuhqztto ^ | Tue Jul 31

Posted on 07/31/2007 11:06:10 PM PDT by darkness78

``It turned out to be incorrect,'' Cheney said in an interview with CNN's Larry King, the same interviewer to whom he made the statement in May 2005. ``The insurgency turned out to be more robust.''....In the interview, Cheney said he expects Petraeus's report will show ``we have made significant progress.''


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1 posted on 07/31/2007 11:06:14 PM PDT by darkness78
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To: darkness78

He wasn’t wrong, his timing was just a bit off.


2 posted on 07/31/2007 11:13:19 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Our God-given unalienable rights are not open to debate, negotiation or compromise!)
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To: darkness78

And Dems are saddened.


3 posted on 07/31/2007 11:26:29 PM PDT by Mark (REMEMBER: Mean spirited, angry remarks against my postings won't feed even one hungry child.)
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To: darkness78

Would it follow Cheney would say Powell and generals arguing for more troops were more right, than they were given credit for, at the outset?

Hopefully the Iraq adventure will heavily influence “lessons learned” along with the blunders by State, Intelligence and other support departments.

It is as if WWII Germany and Japan happened so long ago, that we had zero institutional memory.

If we plan to invade and change regimes, we need a bigger military, in my opinion.


4 posted on 07/31/2007 11:30:47 PM PDT by truth_seeker
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To: Jim Robinson; darkness78

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1874427/posts

Check out post 39, unless I am missing something here, something does not smell right?


5 posted on 07/31/2007 11:34:35 PM PDT by Just mythoughts
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what difference do you think more troops would have made in fighting the insurgency? As an example where more troops didn’t help, look to Vietnam. We fought an insurgency there and it took even longer to put down the Viet Cong with half a million troops.


6 posted on 07/31/2007 11:41:21 PM PDT by vbmoneyspender
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To: darkness78

It’s kinda obvious.


7 posted on 07/31/2007 11:43:57 PM PDT by Irish Rose (Will work for chocolate.)
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To: darkness78

Meanwhile the Democrats are undeterred with their calls for censure, impeachment, and continual investigations to undermine the war on terror.


8 posted on 07/31/2007 11:59:26 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (There is no alternative to the GOP except varying degrees of insanity)
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To: darkness78
"We don’t ask a resignation just for being wrong about a little war, ... but we ask it for a blow job!"

You posted this on another thread about this same story about Cheney. What's up TROLL?
9 posted on 08/01/2007 12:06:02 AM PDT by jrooney (The democrats are the friend of our enemy and the enemy of our friends. Attack them, not GW!)
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To: jrooney
bttt At least there is one other person reading what I read in the same manner... thank you..
10 posted on 08/01/2007 12:07:48 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: Just mythoughts
;) - Definitely a troll that needs to be exposed.
11 posted on 08/01/2007 12:08:48 AM PDT by jrooney (The democrats are the friend of our enemy and the enemy of our friends. Attack them, not GW!)
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To: jrooney

Well obviously I am not a troll exposer, although I did try.


12 posted on 08/01/2007 12:10:08 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: Just mythoughts

You did a great job!


13 posted on 08/01/2007 12:14:36 AM PDT by jrooney (The democrats are the friend of our enemy and the enemy of our friends. Attack them, not GW!)
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To: jrooney

Thank you, I like your approach better, right to the point. How does one get this dark side donkey dung about the Vice President removed?


14 posted on 08/01/2007 12:17:44 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: Just mythoughts

I think your ping to JimRob may do it. Good catch my FReeper!!


15 posted on 08/01/2007 12:20:01 AM PDT by jrooney (The democrats are the friend of our enemy and the enemy of our friends. Attack them, not GW!)
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To: jrooney
Ok thanks, time for some sleep, you have a good night.
16 posted on 08/01/2007 12:21:47 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: Just mythoughts

You too. Goodnight.


17 posted on 08/01/2007 12:22:37 AM PDT by jrooney (The democrats are the friend of our enemy and the enemy of our friends. Attack them, not GW!)
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Hopefully the Iraq adventure will heavily influence “lessons learned” along with the blunders by State, Intelligence and other support departments.

Every war is different, and going in, the military thinks they have a handle on it. They never do, and their success depends on being willing to make the necessary changes.

Unfortunately, beginning with Vietnam, the military doesn't have the luxury of time to make those changes. The Democrats have fought the military every step of the way, and use any mistakes to pound them in the press. They try their best to turn public opinion against the military, especially in long, protracted operations such as Iraq. Gulf War I was an anomaly, but since all wars are judged based on the most previous one fought, many Americans expected this one to be just as short. They were different wars for different reasons, but the media and Democrats don't want to admit that. They use the length of the conflict against the military, disregarding the nature of the enemy. We're not dealing with the army of one country, we're dealing with Islamic fanatics from around the world, supported by a radical Islamic government outside the boundary of the country in which we're engaged in battle.

18 posted on 08/01/2007 12:33:54 AM PDT by SuziQ
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To: darkness78
I'm re-reading "America's Secret War" by George Friedman, founder of Stratfor. His view is so different than what we normally hear that it's hard to think about it.

Briefly summarizing:

Saddam never planned a conventional response to our invasion. He intended a guerrilla war from the beginning. This caught us completely unprepared...and for 2 critical months Rumsfeld refused to acknowledge reality. When he finally did we were very vulnurable and desperate for a response.

And there was another surprise; the Shiites had been organized by the Iranians for the previous 10 years and were fully prepared to govern the country following our "victory". We agreed to let them if they would help us with the Sunni guerrillas.

It turned out we didn't need as much help as we thought. Money bought the loyalty of Saddam's "army". So we reneged on our deal with the Shiites. That and factional disputes within their ranks are what led to the ensuing disorder.

19 posted on 08/01/2007 2:20:00 AM PDT by liberallarry
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To: Jim Robinson
The important thing is that Dems are wrong that we have lost the war. Also, stating that we have lost the war undercuts our effort to win the war.
20 posted on 08/01/2007 4:53:38 AM PDT by GeorgefromGeorgia
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