"Is this a 'mangrove-like' plant or a true mangrove? If the latter, it sounds like a big out-of-order problem for evolution, because mangroves were not supposed to appear till the late Cretaceous (source) and these forests are Carboniferous, over 200 million years earlier. That would be a bigger problem than finding a living dinosaur...Well have to see if more of the details come to light...This story also illustrates, as seen so often before, that wherever evolutionists look, they find more complexity farther back in time than they expect."
http://creationsafaris.com/crev200704.htm#20070423a
Thank God for the biblical truth of Evolutionary Science... I am so stoked that God gave to us evolution. It explains so much.
The bible is just amazing in its explanation that the Earth is over 4.5 billion years old.
Praise Jesus!! Praise Darwin!!! How fantastic God used Evolutionary Science to create man.
“oops, there goes another rubber tree plant”
The great thing about theory is that if a set of conditions goes against the theory then the theory is wrong and a new theory can be formulated and tested. This is how science works.
So .... angiosperm tree samples are in this forest?
Being that I grew up in Vermilion County, I had to see if I could find more info about which mines they were talking about. My search led to me to the following link, where there is more information and pictures of a lot of the fossils they have found:
http://www.isgs.uiuc.edu/research/coal/fossil-forest/fossil-forest.shtml
“But Falcon-Lang is philosophical about losing the forest, pointing out that if it weren’t for mining, the forest would never have been discovered in the first place.”
Cant believe he admitted it.... well there goes his research grant for not following “the code”
Did you actually read the article?
"The ancient forest bears little resemblance to modern equivalents. "The diversity of the first rainforests was bizarre," says Falcon-Lang.The forest probably had about 50 different plant species, although Falcon-Lang says that this is a conservative estimate. We probably lumped several similar species together as one," he explains. Modern rainforests are more diverse, containing as many as 500 plant species per hectare.
I don't know what he means when he says "the diversity was bizarre" but the last statement there is clear enough.
Gotta love it when the elitists get stumped.
It just means that the “older fossils” may not be so old.
If one time line of mangrove evolution is shown to be
not consistent with what is currently believed, the
idea of dating a particular stratum can be thrown up for
grabs...
what would actually be enlightening, would be to carbon date
the mangroves, and C14 date the coal. The explanations for
the differences in their C14 dates, or the explanations for
the reason for their C14 dates being the same would be an
interesting lession in what assumptions are used to arrive
at a conclusion.
300 million years my hairy(_|_)
They have a solution: Ignore them, and the MSM will go along as they always do for liberal causes.
What did everything evolve from?
What was the first ‘thing’ and how did it come to be?
Evolutions little beginning problem!
First thing and things there after had to be created, there is no other possible explanation.
The ancient forest bears little resemblance to modern equivalents. "The diversity of the first rainforests was bizarre," says Falcon-Lang. He and his team found the remains of tree-sized clubmosses, horsetails and ferns plants that today grow 2 or 3 metres tall, but in the ancient forest reached heights of up to 40 metres. Also surprising is the presence of remains from mangrove-like plants. "It was always assumed that mangrove plants had evolved fairly recently," says Falcon-Lang.Interesting stuff, but there's not one single bit of this article that is anything about any major, or even minor, problem for "Darwinism" - just the opposite, in fact, it gives more information for biologists and paleontologists to study even more details about evolution.
The forest probably had about 50 different plant species, although Falcon-Lang says that this is a conservative estimate. We probably lumped several similar species together as one," he explains. Modern rainforests are more diverse, containing as many as 500 plant species per hectare.
Imminent collapse
This discovery also shows that the fundamental processes that guide the complexity and evolution of forests has been around for hundreds of millions of years, says Scott Hocknull, a curator at the Queensland Museum in Brisbane, Australia. "Knowing this and how it has played out so many times in history will allow ecologists to better understand the complexity of modern forest systems," he adds.
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You are doing a great job with these posts. Keep it up.