Smoking just one cannabis joint raises danger of mental illness by 40%

Drug-crazed drifter Richard Cazaly is believed to have stabbed pregnant Abigail Witchalls in Surrey, in April 2005.

His girlfriend, Vanessa MacKenzie, told police both she and Cazaly were regular cannabis users, smoking 'a couple of joints a day'.

Surrey police said Cazaly became psychotic and violent as a result of long-term abuse of drugs and the alcohol he had consumed on the day of the random stabbing.

Mind warped by smoking skunk: Thomas Palmer
Son of a nurse at Broadmoor Thomas Palmer butchered two of his friends during a woodland walk after his mind was warped by smoking skunk - a particularly potent form of cannabis.

Then aged 18, he virtually beheaded 16-year-old Steven Bayliss and repeatedly stabbed Nuttawut Nadauld, 14, near their homes in Wokingham, Berkshire in September 2005.

A "couple of joints..."

Oh, sure, I believe that. Two joints huh? Heck, 2/3rds of SoCal should be dead right now.

Betcha ten bucks a shrink had them on beta-blockers.

Fooling around with the chemical make-up? All they’ve done is crossbreed different varieties. Mostly it’s been to make more potent plants that are uniform and grow quickly indoors, and they’ve tried to improve taste, aroma, etc. The chemical makeup is the same as it ever was. THC is the main psychoactive cannabinoid found in marijuana. Another is CBD, which from what I’ve read is not psychoactive but some believe it has sedative qualities and alters slightly the effect of THC. It’s found in all marijuana but growers do try to select plants that have a higher ratio of THC to CBD. Also found in marijuana but to a much lesser extent is CBN, which some also believe can alter the “high” people get from marijuana. There are several others found in minute quantities that are probably not psychoactive at all.

Pot growers are rarely going to have any way scientific method for determining how much of any one cannabinoid is in their product. They’re just going to rely on taste, smell, and the “high” they get and try to select the best plants to make seeds from. They know generally about different plants from different regions and the properties of different types of marijuana like cannabis sativa, cannabis indica, or cannabis ruderalis, so they come up with the types of seeds they want to start with and cross the different varieties to try to come up with strains that have the properties they want. Still though, the basic make-up of the plants is the same. They all have the same cannabinoids, just in different concentrations. From what I understand for instance, Indicas are short stocky plants with shorter grower seasons. They’re the type generally found in Afghanistan and parts of Pakistan and India. A Colombian Sativa will be a much taller plant with long skinny leaves and a much longer growing season. Ruderalis are very short plants with almost no THC that grow really quickly and that do not require the days to get shorter before they will flower like Indica and Sativa do. The Indica’s are supposed to have high levels of THC and high levels of CBD and produce more of a “body high” compared to the more “cerebral high” of the Colombian Sativa that will have less THC overall but a much higher ratio of THC to CBD. A grower might cross the a Stativa and an Indica in hopes of coming up with a plant with the high THC levels of an Indica but the lower CBD levels of a Sativa, or a plant with a Sativa like high that grows short and stocky and quickly like an Indica. Most of the varieties they grow indoors are some type of Sativa/Indica blend. Some also try to breed in the autoflowering traits of the Ruderalis plants while still keeping the higher THC levels of the plants they are crossing the Ruderalis with.

This really isn’t any different than farmers crossing two types of tomato plants to come up with a new variety that has the better qualities of the original plants that they are trying to bring out in their new strain. They’re still going to get tomatoes. But if things work out for them maybe they’ll have the disease resistance they were trying to get from one plant along with the flavor and juiciness they wanted to save from the other plant, or the flavor they want from one with the early fruit set they get from another. Both farmers are going to keep growing successive crops, weeding out the bad plants and keeping the ones with the desirable properties to make seeds from, maybe backcrossing the plants from time to time to bring in traits they couldn’t get to hold in the new variety from the initial cross. Neither farmer is completely altering these plants such that he ends up with something totally chemically different than what he started with. The tomato grower will still have tomatoes and the pot grower will still have pot.

I guess further studies will demonstrate that Cannabis turns you into a raving leftist nut.

At that point even I might support the laws against it--for the children. :-)

As I said, I’m not wading into the pot debate, Smoke, don’t smoke. It don’t know you, so it’s all the same to me. Do what you want.

“A weakness in this kind of study is the causation could go the other way - folks more prone to schizophrenia may be more likely to smoke dope.”

It is a chicken/egg situation. Are pot users just insane/stupid already, or does it make them that way? From what I’ve seen, I’d have to say certainly both.

I’ve known people that have gone to mental hospitals that seemed somewhat ‘normal’ before they started using pot. It literally ruined their lives.

I’d also say that the stupid and insane are also attracted to it as well.

A single joint of cannabis raises the risk of schizophrenia by more than 40 per cent, a disturbing study warns.

I grew up in the '70s. I can state from personal observation that the results of this study is dung-laden hyperbole.

If this was true, 60% of my high school would have been a coin flip away from serious mental illness.

I heard this was a totally correlational study. No causational mechanism presented at all. Like the old “pot leads to heroin” argument.

A single joint of cannabis raises the risk of schizophrenia by more than 40 per cent, a disturbing study warns.

I grew up in the '70s. I can state from personal observation that the results of this study is dung-laden hyperbole.

If this was true, 60% of my high school would have been a coin flip away from serious mental illness.

ROFL!

“As I said, I’m not wading into the pot debate...”

Let me just suggest that if you do not want to be in the “pot debate” that you not come on to a thread like this and make ridiculous claims like that marijuana has somehow morphed into a different drug in the last ten years. When you do that you’re diving right into the debate.