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A Canadian Doctor Describes How Socialized Medicine Doesn't Work
IBD ^ | July 26, 2007 | DAVID GRATZER

Posted on 07/26/2007 6:54:20 PM PDT by Kaslin

I was once a believer in socialized medicine. As a Canadian, I had soaked up the belief that government-run health care was truly compassionate. What I knew about American health care was unappealing: high expenses and lots of uninsured people.

My health care prejudices crumbled on the way to a medical school class. On a subzero Winnipeg morning in 1997, I cut across the hospital emergency room to shave a few minutes off my frigid commute.

Swinging open the door, I stepped into a nightmare: the ER overflowed with elderly people on stretchers, waiting for admission. Some, it turned out, had waited five days. The air stank with sweat and urine. Right then, I began to reconsider everything that I thought I knew about Canadian health care.

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TOPICS: Canada; Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: healthcare; michaelmoore; socializedmedicine
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1 posted on 07/26/2007 6:54:21 PM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Excellent article. Bookmarked.


2 posted on 07/26/2007 7:04:04 PM PDT by Renfield (How come there aren't any football teams with pink uniforms?)
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To: neverdem

ping


3 posted on 07/26/2007 7:04:07 PM PDT by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/Ron_Paul_2008.htm)
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To: Renfield

yea, he really laid it out well, IMO


4 posted on 07/26/2007 7:04:58 PM PDT by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/Ron_Paul_2008.htm)
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To: Kaslin

ping for later


5 posted on 07/26/2007 7:05:30 PM PDT by keepitreal
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To: Kaslin

Bump


6 posted on 07/26/2007 7:05:55 PM PDT by Nachum
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To: Kaslin

Perhaps Micheal Moore could make a film on this. I know Moore is really concerned about health care issues like this....


7 posted on 07/26/2007 7:10:40 PM PDT by Always Right
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To: Kaslin

bookmark


8 posted on 07/26/2007 7:11:47 PM PDT by Sparky1776
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To: Kaslin
Provocative:

Americans live 75.3 years on average, fewer than Canadians (77.3) or the French (76.6) or the citizens of any Western European nation save Portugal. Health care influences life expectancy, of course. But a life can end because of a murder, a fall or a car accident. Such factors aren't academic — homicide rates in the U.S. are much higher than in other countries.

In The Business of Health, Robert Ohsfeldt and John Schneider factor out intentional and unintentional injuries from life-expectancy statistics and find that Americans who don't die in car crashes or homicides outlive people in any other Western country.

9 posted on 07/26/2007 7:19:32 PM PDT by secretagent
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To: Always Right

MM would eat anyonein the line.
Hillary and her croonies have private physicians.


10 posted on 07/26/2007 7:21:21 PM PDT by Holicheese (Zap Razdowler Rules!)
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To: Kaslin
Hospital Hell (Dan Aykroyd on Socialized Medicine)
The New York Post ^ | 11-19-2003 | Richard Johnson

Posted on 11/20/2003 3:15:45 AM EST by Lancey Howard

November 19, 2003 -- DAN Aykroyd is no fan of the bureaucratic bungling and cut-rate care of socialized medicine. "One place you don't want to get sick is Quebec," the Canadian actor advised us after a screening of Denys Arcand's "The Barbarian Invasions." "It's all socialized. Believe me, you don't want to go to a hospital there."

11 posted on 07/26/2007 7:28:14 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Kaslin
Like many critics of American health care, though, Krugman argues that the costs are just too high: health care spending in Canada and Britain, he notes, is a small fraction of what Americans pay. Again, the picture isn't quite as clear as he suggests. Because the U.S. is so much wealthier than other countries, it isn't unreasonable for it to spend more on health care. Take America's high spending on research and development. M.D. Anderson in Texas, a prominent cancer center, spends more on research than Canada does.

Does American research subsidize Candian medicine?

More precisely, does free(er) enterprise medicine subsidize socialized medicine?

12 posted on 07/26/2007 7:29:35 PM PDT by secretagent
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To: Kaslin

Just Wow!


13 posted on 07/26/2007 7:31:28 PM PDT by Publius6961 (MSM: Israelis are killed by rockets; Lebanese are killed by Israelis.)
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To: Lancey Howard

Akroyd’s article unavailable, except by purchase.


14 posted on 07/26/2007 7:32:50 PM PDT by secretagent
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To: Kaslin

This is the impression people in the med care system in the US talk about as far as I’ve been concerned. It is well-known. I’ve been in two arguments over MM’s film and my surprise at just how far people (liberals) are willing to remain thoughtless and single minded for an agenda.

She who shall remain nameless purposefully excluded the AMA from her planning sessions. I imagine it had something to do with this.


15 posted on 07/26/2007 7:34:02 PM PDT by rljv
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To: Kaslin

I always fear that once Gov is formed you can never get rid of it. At least this author shows that alternatives can thrive and that Gov can be turned back.

I prefer we just dont go down that path to begin with.
Most of the problems we have with healthcare cost in this country now is the Gov meddling with the industry


16 posted on 07/26/2007 7:34:07 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: secretagent

It’s from 2003. What you see there is pretty much all there was anyway.
It’s a Richard Johnson ‘Page 6’ item.

Regards,
LH


17 posted on 07/26/2007 7:39:19 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Publius6961

Have you noticed that the R’s have decided to introduce their own health care reforms in the senate this week? They say we can’t wait for the presidential election. I saw two mentions of that today. It will drive the Dems nuts. Good strategy.


18 posted on 07/26/2007 7:43:05 PM PDT by ClaireSolt (Have you have gotten mixed up in a mish-masher?)
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To: Renfield

“Excellent article. Bookmarked.”

Sure is.


19 posted on 07/26/2007 7:49:49 PM PDT by Bogtrotter52 (Reading DU daily so you won't hafta)
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To: Lancey Howard
Hey, thanks!

Good to know: Aykroyd Against SM.

Off to google Richard Johnson...

(If only we had socialized archives)

20 posted on 07/26/2007 7:57:45 PM PDT by secretagent
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