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Four endangered gorillas found shot dead 'Huge loss' for population that numbers just 700
MSNBC ^ | 7/26/2007 | MSNBC

Posted on 07/26/2007 10:56:25 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA

Three female mountain gorillas and a male silverback gorilla were found shot dead this week inside a national park in the Democratic Republic of Congo, a conservation group said Thursday.

The bodies were discovered inside Virunga National Park but it was unclear who killed them and why, the International Gorilla Conservation Program said in a statement.

"Just over 700 mountain gorillas survive in the wild today, and none exist in captivity," the group said. "For such a small population, the unnecessary and indiscriminate killing of four mountain gorillas is a huge loss."

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: africa; animalrights; environment; gorillas; looniesoutinforce; societalvalues; values
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To: IronJack
Your “addition” included the phrase “Seems to me ...” I took that to mean that your were applying the quote to me, and that in doing so you were casting a judgment. In fact, I’m not sure you can really argue otherwise and be honest.

Excuse me? My statement was " Seems to me that that would include anything that's helpless, child or animal." The quote spoke only of a pet dog. I enlarged on that. Read it again.

121 posted on 07/26/2007 2:56:24 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (Jesus loves you, Allah wants you dead)
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To: fish hawk

Ah ok, missed that...;o)


122 posted on 07/26/2007 2:56:52 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: AnotherUnixGeek
"Because chimpanzees are so closely related to us and because they therefore host diseases and parasites which specialize in large primates like chimps and humans, this is a spectacularly bad idea."

What's even grosser is that people in africa will eat "found" dead gorillas and monkeys. No telling how long they've been there or what disease they had. Supposedly this is how HIV was started. Someone found a delicious dead green monkey rotting in the jungle and had him some supper.

123 posted on 07/26/2007 3:13:41 PM PDT by boop (Trunk Monkey. Is there anything he can't do?)
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To: IronJack
Yes. If you don’t care about the poaching death of four endangered apes, why should you care about the poaching death of eight? Or eight hundred? And if no one cared, then nothing would be done and the endangered apes would be extinct. Most of us thinks that's not good. As another poster asked, would you really prefer a world with no animals at all?

Why would you take that? I try to think about the ramifications of my actions as if everyone did them. For example, one person tossing a cigarette butt out the window might not be a big deal, but thousands of drivers tossing them all day long leads to a littered, ugly highway.

Thinking things through is good. You might try it sometime.

124 posted on 07/26/2007 6:16:51 PM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: Red in Blue PA

I wish people would quit monkeying around with gorillas.


125 posted on 07/26/2007 9:36:59 PM PDT by Dick Vomer (liberals suck....... but it depends on what your definition of the word "suck" is.,)
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To: Red in Blue PA
So when there are no more animals on the planet, only people, you will be happy?

I didn't know they'd moved the date up. When exactly are there going to be no more animals on the planet?

126 posted on 07/26/2007 9:40:31 PM PDT by Junior_G
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To: Red in Blue PA
I don’t get it either. Nor do I understand the people who post here and make jokes about it.

The only thing worse than someone that doesn't value animal life is someone with no sense of humor.

127 posted on 07/26/2007 9:44:51 PM PDT by Junior_G
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To: fish hawk

Are the deaths of the three in the recent CT murders worse than a child from AIDS in Africa?

See how ridiculous your question is?


128 posted on 07/27/2007 5:15:29 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Truth : Liberals :: Kryptonite : Superman)
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To: SoCal Pubbie

Well said.

Many posters here hit “Submit” before thinking, and thisis all to evident from their words.


129 posted on 07/27/2007 5:16:39 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Truth : Liberals :: Kryptonite : Superman)
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To: Nathan Zachary

Re: Are you saying one day it will turn into a human?

Do you mean like the thousands currently on Death Row?

Or a Hitler/Stalin/Mao type?

Or how about the thousands of suicide bombers?

You hold too high an opinion of mankind and much too low an opinion of animals.

My guess is that you are not a pet owner and have never seen the true intelligence of animals. Not to mention the fact that many of these so-called beasts show more humanity than many humans.


130 posted on 07/27/2007 5:19:52 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Truth : Liberals :: Kryptonite : Superman)
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To: Nathan Zachary

Animals know no malice, nor greed.

In many ways they are superior to man. Perhaps you should get used to this.


131 posted on 07/27/2007 5:21:59 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Truth : Liberals :: Kryptonite : Superman)
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To: SoCal Pubbie
Thinking things through is good.

Agreed. But thinking things through does not equate to arguing at the extremes. Not every action begets an absolute. Killing four apes does not equate to killing EVERY ape, or, even more absurdly, every animal! And THAT is why I don't care, not because I celebrate the senseless slaughter of four apes, but because I think that that's where it will stop.

You need to stop overreacting to every situation that scares you by taking it to an extreme and then finding a "solution" for that extreme.

132 posted on 07/27/2007 6:39:21 AM PDT by IronJack (=)
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To: IronJack
I’m not scared, just too familiar with human nature.
133 posted on 07/27/2007 7:10:49 AM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: Red in Blue PA
If you would have read all my posts on this thread and read my tag line you would have learned that all that I said was sarcasm. It was meant to be ridiculous.
134 posted on 07/27/2007 9:32:39 AM PDT by fish hawk (The religion of Darwinism = Monkey Intellect)
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To: Red in Blue PA
Animals know no malice, nor greed.

Nor compassion nor love, as much as you'd like to believe they do.

In many ways they are superior to man.

Only if you see Man reduced to his feral state.

Perhaps you should get used to this.

If you are that anthromorphic toward animals and that misanthropic toward human beings, perhaps you should seek professional help.

135 posted on 07/27/2007 9:54:38 AM PDT by IronJack (=)
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To: Red in Blue PA

so ‘splain me...

why is it ok to eat chicken, or cows. or baby lambs, deer, and not chimpanzee?

oh...that’s right...I forgot...chimpanzees are our ansestors! Kinda like our great great uncles...and to eat them, why thats...thats...downright disgusting...and damned near cannabilism!

and...according to the evolutionsist “theory” we all evolved from fish too...so no tuna either.

As a matter of fact, since we all evolved from the same primordial ooooze...no ooooze for dinenr either...and nothing to eat that evolved from the oooze either. no rice, grains, leafy plants, and no fruit becuas eit contains seeds and thats..well..what an outrage, thats like eating unborn baby fruits...the HORROR!

Rocks.
Tonight’s main entree’ is rocks.
just so nobody gets offended.

...and can refer you a great dentist after dinner.


136 posted on 07/27/2007 10:08:34 AM PDT by woollyone (whyquit.com ...if you think you can't quit, you're simply not informed yet.)
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To: woollyone

Re: why is it ok to eat chicken, or cows. or baby lambs, deer, and not chimpanzee?

I don’t eat any of them.

Re: no rice, grains, leafy plants, and no fruit becuas eit contains seeds and thats..well..what an outrage, thats like eating unborn baby fruits...the HORROR!

Can rice or grains think and feel pain?

Re: Rocks.
Tonight’s main entree’ is rocks.
just so nobody gets offended.

I can see that acumen is not your leading characteristic.


137 posted on 07/27/2007 10:46:00 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Truth : Liberals :: Kryptonite : Superman)
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To: Red in Blue PA
It seems that this shot is correct. What a shame!


138 posted on 07/29/2007 1:27:30 AM PDT by jws3sticks (Hil<I>The Whlary can take a very long walk on a very short pier, anytime, and the sooner the better!)
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To: jws3sticks

Need to correct my tag line. Fun reading this link, with lots of unneeded heat, IMHO.


139 posted on 07/29/2007 1:41:42 AM PDT by jws3sticks (Hillary can take a very long walk on a very short pier, anytime, and the sooner the better!)
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