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Obama Debate Comments Set Off Firestorm
AP ^ | 07/24/2007 | TOM RAUM

Posted on 07/24/2007 2:35:34 PM PDT by Phlap

Barack Obama's offer to meet without precondition with leaders of renegade nations such as Cuba, North Korea and Iran touched off a war of words, with rival Hillary Rodham Clinton calling him naive and Obama linking her to President Bush's diplomacy.

Older politicians in both parties questioned the wisdom of such a course, while Obama's supporters characterized it as a repudiation of Bush policies of refusing to engage with certain adversaries.

It triggered a round of competing memos and statements Tuesday between the chief Democratic presidential rivals. Obama's team portrayed it as a bold stroke; Clinton supporters saw it as a gaffe that underscored the freshman senator's lack of foreign policy experience.

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Anthony Lake defended Obama's statements.

"A great nation and its president should never fear negotiating with anyone and Senator Obama rightly said he would be willing to do so—just as Richard Nixon did with China and Ronald Reagan with the Soviet Union," Lake said.

(Excerpt) Read more at breitbart.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Politics/Elections; US: Illinois; US: New York
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To: Phlap
"A great nation and its president should never fear negotiating with anyone and Senator Obama rightly said he would be willing to do so—just as Richard Nixon did with China and Ronald Reagan with the Soviet Union," Lake said.

Yup. This country is lookin' for another Reagan, and that there is Barack Reagan Obama.

21 posted on 07/24/2007 2:58:59 PM PDT by LucyJo
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To: goldstategop

It’s “Jimmah Carter.” What do Obama and Jimmah have in common: (1) they’re both Liberals, (2) they’re both morons, (3) they’re both anti-semitic, (4) they both are anti-American; anti-military. One might say, they’re birds of a feather.


22 posted on 07/24/2007 2:59:52 PM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: ObadiahLynch
But I don’t see what would be wrong with talking to the leaders of other nations — even nutball nations like N Korea. What’s to lose?

1. it gives them legitimacy. N korea talking to Venezuala is one thing, anyone getting a summit with the US President is BIGTIME.

2. We do not recognize rogue states, and talking to thier leaders conveys recognition -- SEE #1.

3. There is nothing to discuss with a bunch of communist tinpot dictators of third world sh*tholes.

To compare any of these with China or the Soviet Union is just Niave.

23 posted on 07/24/2007 3:02:06 PM PDT by commish (Freedom tastes sweetest to those who have fought to protect it.)
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To: Tamar1973
"He has a smaller internal compass than either of the Clintons? Who would have thought?!"

Yeah, at least the Clintonistas (awful as they are) don't usually boast in press releases that they determine their foreign policy via focus group!! They do it that way, to be sure, but I think they have the basic common sense not to boast about it or cite the focus group as a reason to adopt a policy. Obama is a joke.
24 posted on 07/24/2007 3:02:47 PM PDT by Enchante (Reid and Pelosi Defeatocrats: Surrender Now - Peace for Our Time!!)
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To: counterpunch

can you hear me now


25 posted on 07/24/2007 3:07:41 PM PDT by mt tom (high in the sierras looking down into the garden spot of the world)
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To: ObadiahLynch
Are you serious??? How about talking to them gives them a level of legitimacy?? Not to mention, when did trying to have a rational conversation with stark raving mad lunatics prove to be anything but a colossal waste of time?
26 posted on 07/24/2007 3:14:41 PM PDT by Anti-Hillary (Anyone but Hitlery)
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To: ObadiahLynch
Are you serious??? How about talking to them gives them a level of legitimacy?? Not to mention, when did trying to have a rational conversation with stark raving mad lunatics prove to be anything but a colossal waste of time?
27 posted on 07/24/2007 3:14:47 PM PDT by Anti-Hillary (Anyone but Hitlery)
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To: Phlap
Obama to make new Venezuelan, Cuban and North Korean friends.

but keeps it real with old Iranian and Syrian school chums.

28 posted on 07/24/2007 3:19:34 PM PDT by ricks_place
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To: Phlap
Subtitle:
Obama stomps on reproductive appendage.
29 posted on 07/24/2007 3:23:24 PM PDT by verity (Muhammed and Harry Reid are Dirt Bags)
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To: Phlap

Methinks this is a carefully orchestrated attempt by the AP to discredit Obama. Subtle, but its still there. They’re in hillary’s pocket, this is only the beginning. She has reversed herself on this topic, which the campaign denies, of course. Drudge has both of her positions posted side-by-side on his website as proof. She’s a liar, always has been, always will be.


30 posted on 07/24/2007 3:25:36 PM PDT by bayareablues
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To: bayareablues

Yep. The good thing is that Obama’s got a lot of true believers and methinks that more than a little resentment will build when they see him being treated unfairly by Hillary’s minions in the lamestream media...


31 posted on 07/24/2007 3:54:49 PM PDT by eureka! (Is power so important to the Democrats that they are willing to endanger our country? Yep.)
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To: Phlap

Democratic presidential hopeful Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., greets supporters at the end of the Democratic presidential debate sponsored by CNN, YouTube and Google at The Citadel military college in Charleston, S.C., Monday, July 23, 2007. (AP Photo/Charles Dharapak)


32 posted on 07/24/2007 4:51:08 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Welcome to FR. The Virtual Boot Camp for 'infidels' in waiting)
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To: Anti-Hillary

“Are you serious??? How about talking to them gives them a level of legitimacy?? Not to mention, when did trying to have a rational conversation with stark raving mad lunatics prove to be anything but a colossal waste of time?”

They have fricking atom bombs. That gives them a level of legitimacy. We got into this Iraq debacle precisely by refusing to talk to people that we should have talked to. There’s no reason, assuming you’re talking about actual, substantive dialog (and there’s no reason to assume Obama was talking about anything else), not to have that dialog.

Sheesh — I just re read this and I sound like a fricking liberal. Oh well. Whatever. I’d hope the Republican candidate would be willing (and able) to engage foreign heads of state in dialog too — that’s what they’re supposed to be for, after all.


33 posted on 07/24/2007 5:00:10 PM PDT by ObadiahLynch
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To: ObadiahLynch
Their having nukes does NOT make their form of governance legit. It makes them dangerous, and with their rhetoric, it makes them a threat. Do you REALLY think that ANYTHING that comes out of the mouth of Amanutjob, Kim Jong Mentally-Ill and Assad can be trusted? I’ll answer that for you... NO!!!! There is no reason a sitting US Pres. should sit down with any of these whack jobs. Some back room arm twisting, sanctions, or party talks, MAYBE. These idiots just want to wave their “big sticks”. What they need to understand is that we carry a BIGGER stick and we are not afraid to use it. Talking to this cast of characters is not the same as Reagan talking with Gorbachev. These people are literally insane.

And who is it exactly that we should have talked to before the Iraq war?? PLEEEASSSSSSSSSSSSSE don’t tell me we should have talked to Saddam. If that’s what you think, you don’t just sound like a liberal, you probably are...

34 posted on 07/24/2007 7:55:44 PM PDT by Anti-Hillary (Anyone but Hitlery)
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To: MEGoody
Obama’s remarks show how little experience he has with foreign policy, and how little he knows about the historical actions of these nations toward the U.S.

Exactly. And if any Hussein sycophants have a problem with that, sorry. Oh, btw, I know Hussein's background, Harvard etc., and I'm willing to match I.Q.'s anytime. Same as my offer to the Post, LAT and NYT during the 2000 and 2004 election. The offer still stands, $1000 to the winners charity.

I look forward to eating your lunch, and taking your milk money. FReep mail me so we can dance...

5.56mm

35 posted on 07/24/2007 8:07:57 PM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: Phlap
So, let's ask Obama EXACTLY what he would say to each country's representatives.

And while we're at it, let's ask Hillary too!

36 posted on 07/24/2007 8:11:24 PM PDT by airborne (http://www.gohunter08.com/)
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To: Phlap; PhilDragoo

37 posted on 07/24/2007 8:19:02 PM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: ricks_place

It always makes me sad to see these young kids learning to hate people they don’t even know. I try to pray for them when I remember to do that. Lord, help them!


38 posted on 07/24/2007 8:57:53 PM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL.)
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To: SkyPilot; Phlap
Look at this from the UTube generation's viewpoint and Obama wins; Hillary loses.

Hillary is playing the I'm A Leader role; Obama is the I'm The New Kid On The Block--which is always the little girl who--alone of the crowds lining the passing of the emperor--cried out, "He's naked!"

If Obama is smart he'll press it for all it's worth, cite Nixon and Mao, Kissinger and Cho En-lai, the masterstroke that set us on a path to world economic prosperity instead of nuclear war.

Of course Obama is not smart. He has a good voice and oratorical style, smooth rhetoric--and the substance of his remarks is debatable.

But Hillary (and that inconvenient degenerate Bill) had Arafat the pedophile/terrorist as their personal house guest more than their DCI--explain that, Lucy.

The U.S. has refused one-on-one's with North Korea under Bush 43, but under Clinton, Albright drank the champagne and of course all the nuclear weapons problems were solved with that unilateral negotiation style--which Hillary is so intimately connected to.

It's good that the two Democrat front-runners tear up the Democrat base and cause doubts--doubts that Obama is dangerously inexperienced, and Hillary is a psychopath who always does what she attacks in others.

The two of them are out in the arena and I am cheering for both. The attendants drag off the losers and we get a fresh Republican who won't open the gates to the enemy.

It's all good.

GLORIOUS LEADER IS GREATER THAN YOU

39 posted on 07/24/2007 9:11:39 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: PhilDragoo
But Hillary (and that inconvenient degenerate Bill) had Arafat the pedophile/terrorist as their personal house guest more than their DCI--explain that, Lucy.

Excellent, excellent point.

Too bad Obama Hussein cannot exploit that. His allies are the left, and they hate Israel and loved the homosexual terrorist Arafat who buggered children and died of AIDS.

40 posted on 07/25/2007 3:45:39 AM PDT by SkyPilot
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