Posted on 07/24/2007 2:35:34 PM PDT by Phlap
Barack Obama's offer to meet without precondition with leaders of renegade nations such as Cuba, North Korea and Iran touched off a war of words, with rival Hillary Rodham Clinton calling him naive and Obama linking her to President Bush's diplomacy.
Older politicians in both parties questioned the wisdom of such a course, while Obama's supporters characterized it as a repudiation of Bush policies of refusing to engage with certain adversaries.
It triggered a round of competing memos and statements Tuesday between the chief Democratic presidential rivals. Obama's team portrayed it as a bold stroke; Clinton supporters saw it as a gaffe that underscored the freshman senator's lack of foreign policy experience.
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Anthony Lake defended Obama's statements.
"A great nation and its president should never fear negotiating with anyone and Senator Obama rightly said he would be willing to do sojust as Richard Nixon did with China and Ronald Reagan with the Soviet Union," Lake said.
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Yup. This country is lookin' for another Reagan, and that there is Barack Reagan Obama.
It’s “Jimmah Carter.” What do Obama and Jimmah have in common: (1) they’re both Liberals, (2) they’re both morons, (3) they’re both anti-semitic, (4) they both are anti-American; anti-military. One might say, they’re birds of a feather.
1. it gives them legitimacy. N korea talking to Venezuala is one thing, anyone getting a summit with the US President is BIGTIME.
2. We do not recognize rogue states, and talking to thier leaders conveys recognition -- SEE #1.
3. There is nothing to discuss with a bunch of communist tinpot dictators of third world sh*tholes.
To compare any of these with China or the Soviet Union is just Niave.
can you hear me now
Methinks this is a carefully orchestrated attempt by the AP to discredit Obama. Subtle, but its still there. They’re in hillary’s pocket, this is only the beginning. She has reversed herself on this topic, which the campaign denies, of course. Drudge has both of her positions posted side-by-side on his website as proof. She’s a liar, always has been, always will be.
Yep. The good thing is that Obama’s got a lot of true believers and methinks that more than a little resentment will build when they see him being treated unfairly by Hillary’s minions in the lamestream media...
Democratic presidential hopeful Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., greets supporters at the end of the Democratic presidential debate sponsored by CNN, YouTube and Google at The Citadel military college in Charleston, S.C., Monday, July 23, 2007. (AP Photo/Charles Dharapak)
“Are you serious??? How about talking to them gives them a level of legitimacy?? Not to mention, when did trying to have a rational conversation with stark raving mad lunatics prove to be anything but a colossal waste of time?”
They have fricking atom bombs. That gives them a level of legitimacy. We got into this Iraq debacle precisely by refusing to talk to people that we should have talked to. There’s no reason, assuming you’re talking about actual, substantive dialog (and there’s no reason to assume Obama was talking about anything else), not to have that dialog.
Sheesh — I just re read this and I sound like a fricking liberal. Oh well. Whatever. I’d hope the Republican candidate would be willing (and able) to engage foreign heads of state in dialog too — that’s what they’re supposed to be for, after all.
And who is it exactly that we should have talked to before the Iraq war?? PLEEEASSSSSSSSSSSSSE don’t tell me we should have talked to Saddam. If that’s what you think, you don’t just sound like a liberal, you probably are...
Exactly. And if any Hussein sycophants have a problem with that, sorry. Oh, btw, I know Hussein's background, Harvard etc., and I'm willing to match I.Q.'s anytime. Same as my offer to the Post, LAT and NYT during the 2000 and 2004 election. The offer still stands, $1000 to the winners charity.
I look forward to eating your lunch, and taking your milk money. FReep mail me so we can dance...
5.56mm
And while we're at it, let's ask Hillary too!
It always makes me sad to see these young kids learning to hate people they don’t even know. I try to pray for them when I remember to do that. Lord, help them!
Hillary is playing the I'm A Leader role; Obama is the I'm The New Kid On The Block--which is always the little girl who--alone of the crowds lining the passing of the emperor--cried out, "He's naked!"
If Obama is smart he'll press it for all it's worth, cite Nixon and Mao, Kissinger and Cho En-lai, the masterstroke that set us on a path to world economic prosperity instead of nuclear war.
Of course Obama is not smart. He has a good voice and oratorical style, smooth rhetoric--and the substance of his remarks is debatable.
But Hillary (and that inconvenient degenerate Bill) had Arafat the pedophile/terrorist as their personal house guest more than their DCI--explain that, Lucy.
The U.S. has refused one-on-one's with North Korea under Bush 43, but under Clinton, Albright drank the champagne and of course all the nuclear weapons problems were solved with that unilateral negotiation style--which Hillary is so intimately connected to.
It's good that the two Democrat front-runners tear up the Democrat base and cause doubts--doubts that Obama is dangerously inexperienced, and Hillary is a psychopath who always does what she attacks in others.
The two of them are out in the arena and I am cheering for both. The attendants drag off the losers and we get a fresh Republican who won't open the gates to the enemy.
It's all good.
Excellent, excellent point.
Too bad Obama Hussein cannot exploit that. His allies are the left, and they hate Israel and loved the homosexual terrorist Arafat who buggered children and died of AIDS.
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