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Alimony Still Required After Ex-wife Enters Domestic (Lesbian) Partnership
SignOnSanDiego.com ^ | July 24, 2007 | ASSOCIATED PRESS

Posted on 07/24/2007 9:42:07 AM PDT by DogByte6RER

Alimony still required after ex-wife enters domestic partnership

ASSOCIATED PRESS

July 24, 2007

LOS ANGELES – A judge has ordered a man to continue paying alimony to his ex-wife – even though she is in a registered domestic partnership with another woman and uses the other woman's last name.

California marriage laws state alimony ends when a former spouse remarries, and Ron Garber thought that meant he was off the hook when he learned his ex-wife had registered her new relationship under the state's domestic partnership law.

An Orange County judge didn't see it that way.

The judge ruled that a registered partnership is cohabitation, not marriage, and Garber must keep writing the checks, $1,250 a month, to his ex-wife, Melinda Kirkwood. Garber plans to appeal.

The case highlights questions about the legal status of domestic partnerships, an issue the California Supreme Court is weighing as it considers whether same-sex marriage is legal.

An appeals court upheld the state's ban on same-sex marriage last year, citing the state's domestic partners law and ruling that it was up to the Legislature to decide whether gays could wed.

Lawyers arguing in favor of same-sex marriage say they will cite the June ruling in the Orange County case as a reason to unite gay and heterosexual couples under one system: marriage.

In legal briefs due in August to the California Supreme Court, Therese Stewart, chief deputy city attorney for San Francisco, intends to argue that same-sex couples should have access to marriage, and domestic partnership doesn't provide the same reverence and respect as marriage.

The alimony ruling shows “the irrationality of having a separate, unequal scheme” for same-sex partners, Stewart said.

Garber knew his former wife was living with another woman when he agreed to the alimony, but he said he didn't know the two women had registered with the state as domestic partners under a law that was intended to mirror marriage.

“This is not about gay or lesbian,” Garber said. “This is about the law being fair.”

Kirkwood's attorney, Edwin Fahlen, said the agreement was binding regardless of whether his client was registered as a domestic partner or even married.

He said both sides agreed the pact could not be modified and that Garber waived his right to investigate the nature of Kirkwood's relationship.

Garber's attorney, William M. Hulsy, disagreed.

“If he had signed that agreement under the same factual scenario except marriage, not domestic partnership, his agreement to pay spousal support would be null and void,” Hulsy said.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: alimony; ca; divorce; domesticpartnership; homosexualagenda; leftcoast; lesbian; liberalism; spousalsupport
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This poor ex-husband is getting shafted.

But if the judge ruled in favor of the ex-husband, then homosexual "marriage" could be legalized de-facto.

The judge should have just declared that the marriage was null and void due to the ex-wife's moral terpitude and that she was entitled to no alimony whatsoever.

Maybe this is how King Solomon would have "split this baby."

1 posted on 07/24/2007 9:42:12 AM PDT by DogByte6RER
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To: DogByte6RER

“whether same-sex marriage is legal.”

Nope, Prop 22


2 posted on 07/24/2007 9:44:17 AM PDT by edcoil (Reality doesn't say much - doesn't need too)
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To: DogByte6RER

Ehh, live in Ca, what do you expect?


3 posted on 07/24/2007 9:45:51 AM PDT by padre35 (Conservative in Exile.)
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To: DogByte6RER

I’d go to jail first.


4 posted on 07/24/2007 9:46:07 AM PDT by Badeye (You know its a kook site when they ban the word 'kook')
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>>>>>The judge ruled that ... Garber must keep writing the checks, $1,250 a month, to his ex-wife...

If the judge was an ethical individual, he'd have lowered the alimony payment to $1.00 per month.

5 posted on 07/24/2007 9:47:18 AM PDT by Reagan Man (FUHGETTABOUTIT Rudy....... Conservatives don't vote for liberals!)
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To: DogByte6RER

My decree included “co-habitation or remarriage”. Blame your lawyer.


6 posted on 07/24/2007 9:48:16 AM PDT by neodad (USS Vincennes (CG-49) Freedom's Fortress)
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To: DogByte6RER

I thought California was a community property state. Why is he obligated to pay alimony at all.


7 posted on 07/24/2007 9:48:24 AM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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To: DogByte6RER

I didn’t mean it was your lawyer.


8 posted on 07/24/2007 9:49:07 AM PDT by neodad (USS Vincennes (CG-49) Freedom's Fortress)
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To: DogByte6RER
Poor guy, he is forced to pay his X to clean the carpet.
9 posted on 07/24/2007 9:49:37 AM PDT by Beagle8U (FreeRepublic -- One stop shopping ....... Its the Conservative Super Walmart for news .)
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Maybe this is how King Solomon would have "split this baby."

King Solomon would've had the woman burned.

10 posted on 07/24/2007 9:50:35 AM PDT by Spirochete
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I hate to say this, but the judge made the right decision. The law says that alimony ends when she remarries and she hasn't remarried. It's not up to the judge to say, "Well, it's close enough to a marriage."

I don't know how California law treats shacking-up with someone of the opposite sex. Would that end the alimony, or doesn't it count either?

11 posted on 07/24/2007 9:50:41 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (May the heirs of Charles Martel and Jan Sobieski rise up again to defend Europe.)
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Things that are funny:
"In legal briefs due in August to the California Supreme Court, Therese Stewart, chief deputy city attorney for San Francisco, intends to argue that same-sex couples should have access to marriage, and domestic partnership doesn't provide the same reverence and respect as marriage."

But if it DID provide the same reverence and respect, then why did so many people vote to outlaw it? The government is a neutral entity. It doesn't dole out respect. Respect comes from your fellow citizens. And if your fellow citizens disdain your choice, then just because the government says it's ok doesn't mean they respect you now!
12 posted on 07/24/2007 9:53:46 AM PDT by jack_napier
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I can just see the personal ads now....

"Divorced female looking for divorced female"

13 posted on 07/24/2007 9:54:09 AM PDT by Ben Mugged (Always cheat; always win. The only unfair fight is the one you lose.)
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Eliminating alimony altogether is the solution.
14 posted on 07/24/2007 9:55:50 AM PDT by joebuck
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Dykes Delight.....

this country needs an enema!!!

15 posted on 07/24/2007 9:56:18 AM PDT by Vaquero (" an armed society is a polite society" Heinlein "MOLON LABE!" Leonidas of Sparta)
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Yes...I think you have a good point. Photo Sharing and Video Hosting at Photobucket
16 posted on 07/24/2007 9:59:00 AM PDT by DogByte6RER ("Loose lips sink ships")
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“I can just see the personal ads now....”

Work Wanted..Female : carpet cleaner...includes $1200 month expense allotment.

17 posted on 07/24/2007 10:01:00 AM PDT by Beagle8U (FreeRepublic -- One stop shopping ....... Its the Conservative Super Walmart for news .)
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This poor ex-husband is getting shafted. But if the judge ruled in favor of the ex-husband, then homosexual "marriage" could be legalized de-facto.

In other words, domestic partnership gives you all the rights of marriage *except* the responsibility of having your new partner take care of your financial needs, thereby screwing over your ex-husband.
18 posted on 07/24/2007 10:01:10 AM PDT by Old_Mil (Duncan Hunter in 2008! A Veteran, A Patriot, A Reagan Republican... http://www.gohunter08.com/)
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It’s only marriage for certain purposes, I guess.


19 posted on 07/24/2007 10:02:00 AM PDT by Brilliant
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I wonder to what extent the lesbian economy in the US is fueled by alimony.


20 posted on 07/24/2007 10:03:40 AM PDT by omega4412 (Multiculturalism kills. 9/11, Beslan, Madrid, London, Salt Lake City)
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