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He doesn't mention that population growth is concentrated in the third world, mostly in the Muslim world, and that the latter, especially, has no interest in cutting such growth. Nor does he deal with the economic consequences. But at least he's raising the issue and it deserves more public discussion.
1 posted on 07/22/2007 6:32:09 AM PDT by liberallarry
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To: liberallarry

Oh NO, not this old saw again. Nothing new under the sun, indeed.


2 posted on 07/22/2007 6:35:39 AM PDT by bboop (Stealth Tutor)
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To: liberallarry

Denude the planet as well because plants give off carbon dioxide at night.


3 posted on 07/22/2007 6:38:41 AM PDT by A.A. Cunningham
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To: liberallarry
But at least he's raising the issue and it deserves more public discussion.

Oh, I don't know.

The movie "Logan's Run" raised the issue decades ago and didn't get much discussion either.

4 posted on 07/22/2007 6:39:34 AM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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But at least he's raising the issue and it deserves more public discussion.

I agree. My first question to a blathering Watermelon is, "How many kids/'planet-killers' you got?"

5 posted on 07/22/2007 6:39:43 AM PDT by randog (What the...?!)
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To: liberallarry

This schtick is so... 1970’s, where is Paul Ehrlich when we need him ?


6 posted on 07/22/2007 6:39:46 AM PDT by SirLinksalot
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To: liberallarry

To paraphrase Mark Steyn :

According to the greenies the best thing you can do for your kids is not have any....


7 posted on 07/22/2007 6:41:40 AM PDT by Kozak
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To: liberallarry
Save the environment,
kill an environmentalist.
8 posted on 07/22/2007 6:42:36 AM PDT by TheDon (The DemocRAT party is the party of TREASON! Overthrow the terrorist's congress!)
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I have an Idea, cut our birth rate to zero growth and bring in workers from Mexico to pick up the slack in the labor market.


9 posted on 07/22/2007 6:47:17 AM PDT by ontap (Just another backstabbing conservative)
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Tell it to the Muslims.


10 posted on 07/22/2007 6:48:05 AM PDT by ovrtaxt (The FairTax and the North American Union are mutually exclusive.)
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I’m all for a stable population but for America, cutting the birth rate isn’t the answer. Americans need to have enough children to keep a stable rate and we need to stop importing the 3rd world to drop babies.


11 posted on 07/22/2007 6:48:20 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Greed is NOT a conservative ideal.)
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I actually don’t have a problem with stabilizing the population. At some point, too many people will have a detrimental effect. Unfortunately, you have unchecked population growth in the Third World. At the same time, you have negative population growth in the Industrialized world (not just the West).

The result is that the Third World is increasingly trying to come here instead of making their own countries better. Of course, business loves this cause they want new consumers to grow at any cost. For the rest of us, it just means degraded quality of life.

I also fault our consumerist culture for the failure of white people to adequately reproduce themselves. We have become so career focused, materialist, and self indulgent, that we have lost sight of what is really important.


13 posted on 07/22/2007 6:55:16 AM PDT by rbg81 (DRAIN THE SWAMP!!)
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Hey, not to worry Mr Rapley - we're already dead.

We all died in the world wide food famine that came in the 1970's. Which was right before we all died in the Ice Age of the 1980's.

So chill out, we're really not here.

(btw Mr Rapley, I'm pretty sure someone laced your stash with LSD.)

14 posted on 07/22/2007 6:55:47 AM PDT by Condor51 (Rudy makes John Kerry look like a Right Wing 'Gun Nut' Extremist)
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Chris Rapley says that we should get rid of a few billion people.

Chris would you be good enough to go to the nearest high bridge and kindly jump off. Then, we only need a few billion less one left.

You jackass.

16 posted on 07/22/2007 6:56:38 AM PDT by GOPologist (By the time you decide to look for greener pastures, you're too old to climb the fence.)
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The birth rate has declined in every country as that country has developed a modern economy.

Only parts of Africa and a few muslim countries have what would be considered a high birth rate today and even those are falling every year. Saudi Arabia, for example, is down to 4 children per woman versus 7 just a decade ago.

The world population is estimate to peak out at 8.6 billion (not 10) which is not much higher than today’s 6.6 billion.


17 posted on 07/22/2007 7:07:12 AM PDT by JustDoItAlways
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Cut back population in Africa and Arabic countries.
That’ll work.


19 posted on 07/22/2007 7:26:29 AM PDT by Leftism is Mentally Deranged
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The Sacrament of Abortion is a gift to Gaia.


20 posted on 07/22/2007 7:31:33 AM PDT by windsorknot
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so this is why the Left wants to withdraw from iraq. everyone will kill each other and save the planet.


22 posted on 07/22/2007 7:39:11 AM PDT by ari-freedom
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Overpopulation, except in very limited urban situations, is a myth. In any country, including the fourth world, when the average level of income reaches a plateau, which varies by country, the birthrate drops to between 2.1 and 2.3.

That is, people naturally have no more than two or three children except when their economic circumstances force them to. Unless they have to have more children to survive, they usually will not. And it is not just their current economic situation that matters. If they think that their economic situation might improve, they have fewer children.

So to have high population growth you need both poverty with economic and cultural stagnation. If the only way you can sustain yourself is by having a large family, you will. Otherwise you will not.

Even if you look at cities that are currently overpopulated, you will find that the vast majority of the “extra” people were not born there, they immigrated there, concentrated there from rural areas. When that immigration stops, the cities slowly return to a normal population with a typical growth rate.

Often those individuals who are obsessed with overpopulation, from kooks like Paul Ehrlich and Dave Foreman of Earth First!, to the current rash of pseudo scientists, who all proclaim that only forced population control can “save the planet”, speak from a philosophical socialist viewpoint, not from any scientific knowledge.

Their origins are not new, in fact even Ralph Waldo Emerson was a firm believer that mankind should be reduced to a few isolated villages, kept in perpetual darkness and prohibited from development or progress by their traveling masters, who he called “Orphic poets”.

Today, many such fools even believe that mankind should die off entirely, as the world is too valuable a place for them to destroy.

It is a facet of the socialists desire to return to “The State of Nature”, which is their secular version of The Garden of Eden. They crave some way in which people could spit out that piece of the fruit if the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, and return to what they imagine to be a thoughtless herd, like sheep, where all are equal and individuality does not exist.

Such intellectual perversity!


24 posted on 07/22/2007 7:42:29 AM PDT by Popocatapetl
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I really love how these population people can say they do not advocate genocide. They know full well only a small portion of people will choose to not have children. The only methods which would prevent people from having way to many children are totalitarian ( forced sterilization and out right murder of excess children). A pox on the houses of these so called intellectuals. Far better for these self anointed intellectuals if they had never been born.
26 posted on 07/22/2007 7:48:06 AM PDT by perseid 67
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Start with Africa, South America, and the Mideast.


27 posted on 07/22/2007 7:51:57 AM PDT by Brilliant
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