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To: ejonesie22
Trying to reach back an close the door now is a bit too late. We built it, we have to deal with it, both politically, economically and militarily.

I'm not so sure. If a hypothetical President Ron Paul were to take the step of unilaterally withdrawing the United States from the U.N. (and while I may be corrected, he might well be able to do so by executive order, as much as he would probably prefer NOT to exercise power in that way), if the U.N. were suddenly expelled from our soil, and no longer able to count on one damn red cent in U.S. funding, it would reduce that criminal enterprise to nothing but a ranting and raving association in some Third World hellhole. It would put a major kabosh on the mad embrace of globalism and internationalism.

Oh it would be a tough row to hoe, no question but it isn't out of the realm of possibility.
13 posted on 07/22/2007 5:33:19 AM PDT by mkjessup (Jan 20, 2009 - "We Don't Know. Where Rudy Went. Just Glad He's Not. The President. Burma Shave.")
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To: mkjessup
The UN is not the only issue in that. That still leaves Iraq, islamic terrorist, international trade that we are dependent on, and that’s not a bad thing because it works both ways, or should. The UN has had precious little to do with any of that except bitching.

We are past the point where isolationism will work. We need to be a player in the world because our economy depends on it. From that point we need to protect our interest politically and militarily. We can’t pull up tent stakes and come home, nor should we. There are too few of us in the US to support our economy, and if we withdraw as a player the rest of the world will move on without us. Then we are in a world of hurt, being vastly outnumbered and yet still in possession of a lot of “cool stuff” in resources, intellectual property and products.

The only way to keep that from happening is stay the major player and eliminate those that threaten us. Globalism and the like is a reality mainly due to our ever growing technology. It will not go away no matter how much one wishes it would. the masses like their stuff. Now it is up to us to determine how "USA" that globalism looks in form and nature, that's going to be the problem. Right now we a not doing too good at that.

17 posted on 07/22/2007 5:55:16 AM PDT by ejonesie22 (Hillary has already beat Rudy, She is the better cross-dresser.)
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To: mkjessup; ejonesie22

yep, it’s about globalism in the final analysis. The reason I don’t support Thompson is his lack of copnviction regarding an ever closer union with Canada and Mexico- even if it only consists of trade agreements- for right now, of course. (The EU started the same way.)

Paul and Hunter both are not globalists in any measure of the word.


19 posted on 07/22/2007 6:38:43 AM PDT by ovrtaxt (The FairTax and the North American Union are mutually exclusive.)
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To: mkjessup
If a hypothetical President Ron Paul were to take the step of unilaterally withdrawing the United States from the U.N. (and while I may be corrected, he might well be able to do so by executive order, as much as he would probably prefer NOT to exercise power in that way),

I believe his first exectutive order will be to repeal all previous executive orders.
This eliminates many bureaucracies with the stroke of a pen.

38 posted on 07/22/2007 7:29:24 AM PDT by JoinJuniorAchievement (“ I am a Veteran, I support Ron Paul.")
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To: mkjessup
I'm not so sure. If a hypothetical President Ron Paul were to take the step of unilaterally withdrawing the United States from the U.N. (and while I may be corrected, he might well be able to do so by executive order, as much as he would probably prefer NOT to exercise power in that way), ...

He might refuse to even appoint a U.N. ambassador. Or he might appoint one but not allow him to attend sessions. Except to veto every action of the Security Council so they're completely paralyzed.

Ron Paul has kind of a thing about the United Nations. LOL. So do I.
95 posted on 07/22/2007 7:26:23 PM PDT by George W. Bush (Rudy: tough on terror, scared of Iowa)
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