In our opinion, of course, it is not a winner, and the dems could very well lose big because they’re betting their wad that this horse will win for them.
Still, I hear people complaining all the time about the war—and this is in Alabama, a very pro-military and Pres Bush state. The talk that these, I don’t know what to call them, pro-losers? Anti-Iraq war?
Anyway, the talk usually focuses on the fact that in there minds too many guys have been killed, followed by no reason to be there after Saddam was disposed, finished up with we should just nuke the whole place.
I debate them and basically tell the truth, specifically:
-We ARE winning
-We’ve had a remarkable number of LOW casualties—lower than ANY war in history, given the number of troops involved
-Pres Bush said in his speech to Congress and the nation on 21 Sep 2001 that this war would be unlike any other. That fighting would take a long time, probably beyond his administration
—Now, given that you cheered this speech then, and you agreed to buck it up and let America do what the Pres said needed to be done, even if it took a long time, why are you NOW throwing in the towel? (this is very effective here in Bush country—it reminds them that they too made a commitment and to back out now is reneging on that)
-Do you really believe everything you see and hear on the driveby media newscasts? Remember how you scorn their Leftist bias? Is it possible the DBM might be exaggerating the “failures” of this war to discourage you?
-Talk to a soldier, Marine, Sailor or airman whose been there. Ask them what they think about the mission, and whether we’re succeeding or not.
I hear the same responses right here in my own household in AL. I think many conservatives don’t feel saving one Iraqi is worth one soldier or American. They can’t seem to focus on the big picture.
Great stuff there Alas
If you can turn them on to this Website.
Vets for Freedom
http://www.vetsforfreedom.org/
Nothing quite so effective has hearing the words from the front. These guys are a Capt, a pair of LT’s, 2 Sgt and a Navy Corpsman. All are Iraq and Afganistan Vets.
No politicans, not activists. Just real vets with words for the American people. Think what they say should penetrate the endless din of PC Media noise that is blocking the ears of most Americans when it comes to Iraq
Good morning all! Many thanks to AB for this thread, which continues to be WAY better than the Sunday talk shows. Congratulations to last week’s winners, and to all the informed posts on this thread. I—and probably most FReepers—would much rather read the ongoing debates between MNJohnie and Kabar than watch a phony “debate” between ‘rat Harry Reid and “Republican” Olympia Snowe.
That said, I have incredible problems, trying to understand this “war weariness” phenomenon. It’s everywhere. Even, as AB states, in Alabama. I see NO civilian sacrifices, low casualty rates, full employment, a 14,000 Dow, a soaring ecomomy, etc. etc. But “critics” are “tired of this war.” Until you remind ‘em of the points that AB does such a good job of stating.
The ‘rat’s Congressional approval rating in lower than NIXON’S—on the day he left office (thanks, Anita, for the link to the blogger who pointed this out). As pointed out on this thread week after week, the ‘rats sound just like the terrorists defense lawyers. The ‘rats criticize everything the Bush Administration does—or they simply don’t report the good stuff, like the truth about tax cuts, rising revenue flows, a fantastic economy, etc. Americans don’t like being told (by the ‘rats and the MSM/LSM/DBM) that good things for America are “really” bad things, because they aren’t good for the ‘rats. A 14% Congressional ‘rat approval rating? The MSM/LSM/DBM will probably ignore this, too, like the do all positive economic news.