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Vote for Amnesty, lose your cushy job! Vote the bums out, GOP or Democrat!
1 posted on 07/21/2007 2:23:22 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Interesting. I recently told a party fund raiser caller that I was picking and choosing my donations more carefully, because of the way the leadership handled immigration amnesty.


2 posted on 07/21/2007 2:31:02 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; Hostage; Borax Queen; ScaniaBoy; Cooter; eyespysomething; B4Ranch; Alamo-Girl; ...

Hear hear! Listen up, you party lurkers- we don’t need your steenkin North American Union!!

I’m telling you right now, people are prepared to exercise the 2nd amendment over this- and that’s just from the ones who 1> fully know about it and 2> have the guts to openly talk about it. I would imagine that many, many people are willing to stand up and be counted, if there were others to fall in behind.


3 posted on 07/21/2007 2:43:04 AM PDT by ovrtaxt (The FairTax and the North American Union are mutually exclusive.)
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ping


7 posted on 07/21/2007 2:56:57 AM PDT by Richard from IL
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

My $$ goes to my congresscritter, Randy Forbes, who is one of the last conservatives up there. The national GOP fundraising machine has stopped wasting their postage on me.


10 posted on 07/21/2007 3:08:25 AM PDT by tgusa (Gun control: deep breath, sight alignment, squeeze the trigger .....)
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"A favorite tool for angry Republicans is the so called "Bush Peso," that longtime GOP contributors are printing out on their home printers and enclosing in all Party solicitations. It is evidence of a new attitude among many conservatives--give us genuine conservatism, or else."

I sent mine in--have you???

17 posted on 07/21/2007 3:20:52 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel-NRA)
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"As in the past, the Republican establishment knows that come what may, when Hillary Clinton steps onto the stage,
even conservatives outraged by the comprehensive immigration strategy will come running home."

Oh really?

18 posted on 07/21/2007 3:22:00 AM PDT by trickyricky
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With an election year approaching, the GOP is anxious to patch things up and move on.

Not this time, muchachos!

Where can I get a Bush peso? I'd like to send one to my sorry Senator Arlen Spectacle and then to the RNC.

26 posted on 07/21/2007 3:42:12 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner ("Si vis pacem para bellum")
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more for you to read, dear


27 posted on 07/21/2007 3:44:27 AM PDT by scan58 (Diversity results in a collection of unconnected individuals.)
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Good. Throw out the RINOs... in the long run, the GOP will be much better off as a small government, conservative party - regardless of whether we hold onto the White House next year.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

28 posted on 07/21/2007 3:47:00 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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I wrote my senator and r.n.c. head Mel Martinez a letter protesting his support for the amnesty deal.
Butthead sent a reply asking for a donation to the r.n.c.
He can kiss my backside and I won’t give a penny to the party til he is gone from its leadership.
As for the many other RINOs, what’s the difference between the g.o.p and the dims?
So very disappointed in this President and the party and I’m a lifelong Republican.


30 posted on 07/21/2007 3:56:48 AM PDT by Joe Boucher (An enemy of Islam)
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“Vote for Amnesty, lose your cushy job! Vote the bums out, GOP or Democrat!”

Wait a minute man. Let me see if I got this straight. You mean to tell me that the A**hats are FINALLY beginning to understand that what they did may have, perhaps, possibly, had some sort of negative impact on their futures. I am stunned like a mullet.


31 posted on 07/21/2007 4:03:48 AM PDT by Bogtrotter52 (Reading DU daily so you won't hafta)
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“As in the past, the Republican establishment knows that come what may, when Hillary Clinton steps onto the stage, even conservatives outraged by the comprehensive immigration strategy will come running home.”

And it had better be for the right danged candidate, not some fear-based choice dictated by the MSM. Duncan Hunter is the ONLY candidate who will effectively secure the border in 6 months. He will use attrition through enforcement to resolve the illegal immigration problem. He will NOT give any illegal aliens “aspirations of citizenship”.

AMNESTY is NEVER the answer.

The sovereignty and security of our country is at stake!


34 posted on 07/21/2007 4:16:20 AM PDT by Kimberly GG (DUNCAN HUNTER '08)
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It is distressing to hear that the GOP leadership is “bothered” by this issue. Failure of adequate border control simply puts the lie to the premise of the war on terror. The consequences violate the law at so many levels that it clearly is “just plain wrong”. The failure to provide a legal, lawful, accountable border control process and legalization of a controlled immigration procedure, as well as an accountable procedure for dealing with the illegal alien found on US soil is quite simply poor national civics and stupid politics. I would expect the GOP would be delighted to find a grass roots issue that should be relatively easy to remedy and address.


40 posted on 07/21/2007 4:34:54 AM PDT by mo
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Funny how democrap voters don’t have any interest in the amnesty issue, according to all reports ... it’s just conservatives who are mad.

The usual MSM BS.


44 posted on 07/21/2007 5:36:43 AM PDT by cinives (On some planets what I do is considered normal.)
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I was listening to talkshow host Rusty Humphries in 2001 or 2002. On one of his programs, he talked about having a ‘internal memo’ from the RNC. That memo was basically telling the GOP politicians running in elections to avoid the issue of illegals/immigration. They were cautioned that they would lose RNC support (translation: money).

The GOP has tried to bury the problem of illegals/immigration during the Bush 2 Administration, while Bush has been pushing for comprehensive immigration reform [that is amnesty for those in Rio Linda] since he took office in 2001.

The last major stoppage of the flow of illegals came under the presidency of Republican Dwight D. Eisenhower, half a century ago.

The last major unimpeded invasion of illegals came under the presidency of Republican George W. Bush, who currently occupies the Oval Office and who's team has recently taken the approach that the problem is too big to deal with, they don't have the tools or capabilities to stop illegals, they need more laws (including amnesty), and those illegals are doing jobs that fat, lazy Americans won't do.

GWBush and the unabated massive invasion of illegals came during a time when the Republicans had control of The Senate, The House, and the Oval Office. Estimates of the flow of illegals say some 4,000 to 5,000 new illegals enter the US every day/night.

While the Senate was under Republican control in 2006, they passed the one of the most atrocious bills in history — the Comprehensive Immigration Act — which provided amnesty to millions of illegals. The Republican House did stop that idiocy.

Not to be undone, the Senate tried again to 2007 to pass a revised edition of the Comprehensive Immigration Act. The Democratic controlled Senate failed to pass it.

Bush would not let it die. He pit-bulled the bill by making a special unprecedented trip to Capitol Hill to get the Senate to revive the bill. The Senate did, in an unprecedented action, again try to push through a slightly revised edition of the Comprehensive Immigration Act — just weeks following the previous failure to pass. This edition brought out a massive uproar from the American public — millions of irate faxes that would fill a storage building, millions of emails that would fill tetrabyte-sized storage drives, and enough phone calls to cause a melt-down of the Senate phone switchboard system. This second attempt to also failed in the Democratic-controlled Senate.

Of course, the Pubbie-bots rushed out praise that the Republicans stopped the bill. But, only a partial list of Republicans get the credit, with help from some Democrats who also voted against the bill. The President was for it, the GOP Senate leadership was for it, and the GOP/RNC leadership was apparently threatening members who were running in elections throughout the country with a loss of RNC support (i.e., money) if they did not support the Comprehensive Immigration Act.

The GOP does not have a pretty record on immigration/illegal immigration — not since Eisenhower was president.

If one of the major Democratic contenders claim the issue and promise better border security than the Bush 2 Administration has provided, the Dems could walk away with the issue (some 80% of the public want better border control) and walk right into the Oval Office on January 20, 2009.

The sad part is:

The apparently clueless GOP leadership continues to ignore the major problem and continues to push for massive amnesty. They are piece-parting the Comprehensive Immigration provisions by trying to attach some of the provisions onto other bills. The issue did not die with the big Senate vote to kill the bill.

45 posted on 07/21/2007 5:45:12 AM PDT by TomGuy
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80% of the votes for the bill were from Democrats.

85% of the votes that killed the bill were Republicans.

So of course the rabid Know Nothings, once again, IGNORE the Democrats to scream mindless bile at the GOP.

That way the idiot wing of the Conservative Movement can keep spending all their time helping the Democrats repeat in 2008 their win in 2006. Then the Know Nothings can sit around and whine when NEXT time they don’t have enough Conservative votes in the US Senate to fillbuster Amnesty

You people are your own worst enemies. You are so politically ignorant you are the Democrats BEST allies. You never EVER seem to grasp spending ALL your time sniping your own in the back only does ONE thing. Elect Democrats who will vote 100% of the time AGAINST you.

Frankly GET off our side! You people do NOTHING but help the Democrat Party propaganda machine. Just go JOIN them.


51 posted on 07/21/2007 6:14:00 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Ignorance can be cured by education, stupidity is a terminal condition)
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and who vow to sit out the 2008 elections rather than compromise on their values.

Oh no, sorry, not going to happen. There will be PLENTY of voting going on. It just will not be for candidates the RNC anointed “princes." It will be for someone that will kick some azz.

61 posted on 07/21/2007 8:56:49 AM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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'The collapse of John McCain's campaign is the most visible sign of conservatives walking away from GOP leaders associated with the comprehensive immigration strategy,

Yep. Check the chart and the pic. Right to the very day where little johnny is getting face time from MSM...

Now look at the date on the chart...

Bye-bye Johnny!


62 posted on 07/21/2007 9:08:10 AM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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How Eisenhower solved illegal border crossings from Mexico

I Like Ike.

The Fiscal Cost of Low-Skill Immigrants to the U.S. Taxpayer

"Reform" must conform to the following principles:

  1. Anyone who enters this country illegally must be forever barred from legal residency, let alone citizenship.
  2. The right to obtain legal residency in the US must be fairly rationed among all the world's nations, and must not favor those who happen to have the geographic advantage of having their native country located near the US. Residency must be granted based on a variety of factors, with self-sufficiency, useful talents and/or knowledge, and other economic benefits to the US taking precedence over other considerations. Race (as opposed to nationality) should NOT be one of the factors considered, in any way at all.
  3. Taxpayers must not be responsibile for paying the bills of immigrants they cannot afford to pay themselves. The rate of new immigrants must be controlled so as to not overwhelm the capacity of our infrastructure to absorb the increased population pressures.
  4. Those born to parents neither of whom are US citizens must not automatically become US citizens.
  5. English must be mastered before citizenship is granted. Legal residency should require either mastery of English, or yearly enrollment in a semester-long course in English as a second language.
  6. And last, but not least: No reform is permissible until we prove we can a) remove the illegals who are here, and b) prevent new illegals from arriving.

63 posted on 07/21/2007 9:37:39 AM PDT by sourcery (fRed Dawn: Wednesday, 5 November 2008!)
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our pubbie party is imploding.


71 posted on 07/21/2007 11:07:19 AM PDT by ken21 ( b 4 fred.)
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