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Dubai Ports to Have Played Intelligence Role for CIA
The Washington Times ^ | 07-20-2007 | Bill Gertz

Posted on 07/20/2007 7:33:05 PM PDT by RTO

Former Inside the Ring co-author Rowan Scarborough has written a new book revealing a key reason the Bush administration pressed hard for the 2006 deal for the United Arab Emirates-based Dubai Ports World to take over management of several U.S. ports. According to Mr. Scarborough, the administration wanted the deal to go through because the UAE government had agreed to let the United States post agents inside its global port network who could report on world shipping...

... "Dubai Ports, in essence, was going to become an agent of CIA," Mr. Scarborough said in an interview. "The arrangement is helping us detect whether any kind of terror contraband was being moved around."

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: cia; dubaiports; geopolitics; rowanscarborough; sabotage
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To: Neu Pragmatist
Next they’ll be telling us that they wanted the Amnesty bill so they could track terrorists and gain intel ....

Exactly. And all these people will post a thread talking about how right Medved was all along! puh-leeze.

61 posted on 07/21/2007 2:59:13 AM PDT by ovrtaxt (The FairTax and the North American Union are mutually exclusive.)
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To: RTO

Hey, I have a better idea- why don’t we groom an AMERICAN company to do the job? Remember entrepreneurship? Remember how we built thousands of ships, tanks and bombers during WW2? Remember how we had focused leadership who galvanized the entire country to accomplish a single purpose?

WE DON’T WANT ANY PART OF GLOBALISM. GET USED TO IT!


62 posted on 07/21/2007 3:02:50 AM PDT by ovrtaxt (The FairTax and the North American Union are mutually exclusive.)
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To: CMAC51
Just the fact that Chuckie Shumer opposed it should have been good enought reason to support it. That guy is a putz who is wrong 99.9% of the time.

Yes, he's the Putz King, no doubt. But he was simply using the opportunity to play partisan politics and kick Bush in the ribs. The fact that Bush put HIMSELF in that position is Bush's fault. He should have had the common sense to know that we would never let a bunch of Muslims take charge of our ports. That's just a stupid idea right out of the box.

63 posted on 07/21/2007 3:07:27 AM PDT by ovrtaxt (The FairTax and the North American Union are mutually exclusive.)
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To: RTO
Sir, you put words in my mouth. I said no such thing... and if I did, then shame on me...

I don't have to put words in your mouth. You just repeated your original assertion. "You can't live with them". You have no solution or plan other than eliminating them.

64 posted on 07/21/2007 6:57:31 AM PDT by CMAC51
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To: rockinqsranch
So why was “Port Security” the argument that raised the hackles amongst our Congresscritters if it was simply a Management proposition?

It was an emotional response prompted by ignorance. The Bush administration did provide the facts related to the deal, but that didn't matter. Just as you point out in your own response, regardless of the facts you don't like it and think it stinks.

65 posted on 07/21/2007 7:01:30 AM PDT by CMAC51
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To: Perdogg

I call bs on this, it is a red herring. It was all about money for Jorge.


66 posted on 07/21/2007 7:02:09 AM PDT by Hydroshock (Duncan Hunter For President, checkout gohunter08.com.)
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To: ovrtaxt
He should have had the common sense to know that we would never let a bunch of Muslims take charge of our ports. That's just a stupid idea right out of the box.

Bush, unfortunately gave the American people credit for more intelligence than they demonstrated.

If oil is the only economic involvement the ME has with the rest of th world, there is no motivation toward promoting a healthy global economy. They can sell every drop of oil they have even if the world is in turmoil and the economy in recession.

To stabilize the ME, they must develop economic ties and dependencies outside the scope of oil. Then a robust world economy is in their own best interest. The war must necessarily be fought with guns and bombs. It will be won with economics.

Economics has been key to the results of most conflicts. Reagan understood that about the Soviet Union. Our Founding Fathers understood that about Great Britain.

Ignore the role economics plays and the War on Terror will last until the day that we lose.

67 posted on 07/21/2007 7:16:11 AM PDT by CMAC51
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To: RTO

So where does the conduct of the Christian church during the time of the Inquisitions fall in this Western Heritage?


68 posted on 07/21/2007 7:18:40 AM PDT by CMAC51
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To: CMAC51

“It was an emotional response prompted by ignorance.”

INCREDIBLE how many “ignorant” people have been voted into Congress. INCREDIBLE!

“Just as you point out in your own response, regardless of the facts you don’t like it and think it stinks.”

That’s truth as I am one of those losers that believes Americans should own and manage American interests, so shame on me.


69 posted on 07/21/2007 7:25:03 AM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists...call 'em what you will...They ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: RTO

America won, traitors lost! Next. Blackbird.


70 posted on 07/21/2007 7:38:27 AM PDT by BlackbirdSST (I'm dug in, giving no more ground to the rino stampede. BB)
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To: NoDRodee

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71 posted on 07/21/2007 7:45:32 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer (I'm a billionaire! Thanks WTO and the "free trade" system!--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: jackv

All thinking people were aware of this. The Democrats and their useful idiot allies on our side blew it big time.


72 posted on 07/21/2007 7:47:32 AM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: jackv
I hope someone passes this on to hannity, rush and ingraham. I heard their big mouths persecuting Bush over this as they do when they think he’s too dumb to know what’s he’s doing.

Obviously you are just making this up since Rush was outspoken in his support.

73 posted on 07/21/2007 7:51:15 AM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: ovrtaxt
" But he was simply using the opportunity to play partisan politics and kick Bush in the ribs. The fact that Bush put HIMSELF in that position is Bush's fault."

Exactly , total opportunism. We are seeing a pattern develop in which Bush pushes a globalist/crony agenda, and the Dims move slightly to the right of him to look like "Patriots" rushing in to save the day .

First the ports , then Amnesty, and now the Border Patrol Agents that got railroaded. The Dims are jumping on the bandwagon to free the B.P. agents now that they see they can score political points with this issue .

74 posted on 07/21/2007 10:12:33 AM PDT by Neu Pragmatist (Don't forget to thank the good Senators who stopped Amnesty .)
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To: Perdogg

Rush Limbaugh was for the ports deal. I don’t listen to any others so I can’t comment on them.


75 posted on 07/21/2007 10:18:00 AM PDT by upsdriver (DUNCAN HUNTER FOR PRESIDENT!!!!)
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To: jackv

Rush supported the deal. So did I. I went online and researched Dubai. Looks like a great place to visit.


76 posted on 07/21/2007 10:24:49 AM PDT by upsdriver (DUNCAN HUNTER FOR PRESIDENT!!!!)
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To: Mumbles

“The second mistake was Bush not telling those that influence this country that something was afoot.”

Who the hell outside the immediate administration can keep a secret? Capitol hill leaks like a sieve.


77 posted on 07/21/2007 10:28:44 AM PDT by upsdriver (DUNCAN HUNTER FOR PRESIDENT!!!!)
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To: snowsislander

The largest concentration of Catholics in Japan had been the city of Nagasaki, in 1945. (Nagasaki was from where the first Catholic missions to Japan began) The largest Catholic Cathedral in Japan—built for Japan’s largest Catholic population, was “ground zero” for the second atomic bomb, Fat Man. A great number of Japanese whom perished in the attack were Catholic.

“In an instant, 73,000 people died [in Nagasaki], over 8,000 of whom were Christian. Less than one percent of the Japanese population was Christian, yet they comprised over ten percent of the bomb’s victims. A larger issue for the victims, as well as for subsequent generations of Japanese and Christians, was why the West would target the most Christian city in Japan...” (The Journal of Religion and Theater, Vol. 1, No. 1, Fall 2002)


78 posted on 07/22/2007 10:27:39 AM PDT by RTO (What will you do without freedom?)
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To: RTO
The largest concentration of Catholics in Japan had been the city of Nagasaki, in 1945. (Nagasaki was from where the first Catholic missions to Japan began) The largest Catholic Cathedral in Japan—built for Japan’s largest Catholic population, was “ground zero” for the second atomic bomb, Fat Man. A great number of Japanese whom perished in the attack were Catholic.

I believe that your original assertion in posting #50 was that "I do not know of Taiwan, but Japan, South Korea and Russia all have/had significant Catholic populations"; however, that's not true for Japan. Japan doesn't have a significant population of Christians. It has a tiny population, less than 1% of the people living in Japan, and of those observing Christians, I suspect a large percentage are actually ethnic Korean or other non-Japanese people.

You are correct in that Nagasaki for historical reasons has had a good bit of Western influence, but also for historical reasons Christianity never took hold in Japan. While the Japanese are highly syncretistic, that ability to fuse religious experiences has only superficially permeated Japan with respect to Christianity (largely in wedding ceremonies, where Christian elements have become somewhat popular, and a very secular Christmas observation.)

79 posted on 07/22/2007 10:51:49 AM PDT by snowsislander
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To: CMAC51

“So where does the conduct of the Christian church during the time of the Inquisitions fall in this Western Heritage?”

Sir, any discussion of the Inquisition would be thoroughly off topic. However, that stated, I must protest your insinuation, which is wholly out-of-line, and misinformed.

The Inquisition, as it actually occurred in Catholic Spain, was in fact benign, but its occurrence has been thoroughly twisted, into some conspired act of evil persecution, for use by those whom master propaganda against the Catholic Church, so to advance their own political ends.

I am a practicing traditional Catholic—and a Catholic historian. Not to be curt, but, you do not want to go “there,” here, with me. On this thread, we must agree do disagree on the subject.

Respectfully, RTO


80 posted on 07/22/2007 10:52:43 AM PDT by RTO (What will you do without freedom?)
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