[ejonesie22]

I know, but of course if you go on the 4350, you’d have to also go with the 6000-9000 year old earth theory also, which is bupkis. So exactly what happened. Well we don’t know except that there was some flood at some time. That is what it says. Not that the world was flooded at 8:43 AM, Monday, March whatever 2250 BC.

It’s the same as the guys with the painted stars and 6000 year old Earth, they want to tear away the mystery of God because without proof, the ability to sound “Scientific” about everything some how he is not real. That’s why it’s a belief system, not a fact system. It seems contradictory I know, but even as much as I love science myself, it fails to answer the really big questions. One of my favorite pieces from that Val Kilmer Mars Movie was the older scientist who had faith. That was his take and it was a good one. Science has limits, after that there seems to be just a little bit more that can’t be easily explained.

That is the beauty of faith.

[Coyoteman]

I know, but of course if you go on the 4350, you’d have to also go with the 6000-9000 year old earth theory also, which is bupkis. So exactly what happened. Well we don’t know except that there was some flood at some time. That is what it says. Not that the world was flooded at 8:43 AM, Monday, March whatever 2250 BC.

My response was to your post that stated:

Nothing in observed science contradicts anything in the Bible.

I provided an example where science does contradict something in the bible.

My statement relies on two things.

The first is the date of a global flood. I have listed some interpretations for that below. They generally center around 2350 BC or 4350 years ago. I have no independent opinion on this, so must rely on scholars and their opinions.

Second, is the lack of evidence for a global flood at that date in archaeology and sedimentology. I have spent a lot of years doing archaeology and reading archaeological journals. My colleagues and I have not found evidence for a global flood at the time it should have occurred. Instead, we find a number of kinds of evidence which show continuity from before, during, and after that date. In my area we have continuity of prehistoric cultures, mtDNA, fauna and flora, soil deposition, etc. No break 4350 years ago.

But if you want to see evidence for a large flood (actually a series of floods), google "channeled scablands" and see what happened in central and southern Washington at the end of the last ice age. Ice dams held glacial meltwater in the Idaho panhandle area, creating a series of lakes in western Montana. Periodically these dams released the water, and it scoured parts of Washington. The point I want to make here is that a large flood leaves evidence. A global flood much more recently would have erased that evidence and left other, much more visible evidence. And archaeologists and other -ologists are pretty good at finding that evidence--if it is there.

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The date of the global flood:

2252 BC -- layevangelism.com

2304 BC -- Answers in Genesis (+/- 11 years).

2350 BC -- Morris, H. Biblical Creationism. Grand Rapids, MI: Baker Books, 1993.

2370 BC -- TalkOrigins.com

2500 BC -- http://www.nwcreation.net/biblechrono.html

2522 BC -- Dr. Gerhard Hasel

2978-3128 BC -- http://www.asa3.org/archive/ASA/199605/0162.html

3300 BC -- http://www.biblediscoveries.com/flood1.html

3537 BC -- Setterfield (1999)