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Ron Paul Lends His Views on SOX 5 Years Later[Sarbanes-Oxley]
Audit Trail ^ | 18 July 2007 | Audit Trail

Posted on 07/20/2007 8:06:04 AM PDT by BGHater

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To: Maeve

Actually I think that you folks wasting all your time glamorizing and promoting this Ron Paul nut will hurt the efforts to defeat Hillary Clinton. A Ron Paul candidacy is a fantasy. We need to fight Clinton in the real world folks. I know - I know you love Ron Paul, but its not going to work. Reality bites sometimes.


61 posted on 07/20/2007 11:49:53 AM PDT by Martins kid
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To: CJ Wolf
"Or do you even know what SOX is?"

Let's pretend I don't. The next question is if I know how to use the internet.

62 posted on 07/20/2007 11:52:30 AM PDT by lormand (Ron Paul - Surrender Monkey for GOP nominee.)
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To: CJ Wolf

Paul’s comments on SOX mean nothing if he has no credibility.


63 posted on 07/20/2007 11:54:48 AM PDT by Martins kid
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To: Martins kid

Are you one of Rudy’s Rooters that the Mods missed? Trying to get some “pay back” on a real conservative candidate?


64 posted on 07/20/2007 11:55:51 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (What would a free man do?)
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To: padre35
I'm withya on Thompson and also don't rule out Romney.

My worst nightmare would be pulling the lever for Rudy so as to not allow our foreign policy to be again hijacked by Klintons.

65 posted on 07/20/2007 11:57:13 AM PDT by lormand (Ron Paul - Surrender Monkey for GOP nominee.)
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To: lormand

“I’m withya on Thompson and also don’t rule out Romney.

My worst nightmare would be pulling the lever for Rudy so as to not allow our foreign policy to be again hijacked by Klintons.”

Here is the thing about the Ron Paul supporters (and I agree with them on this) they (including me) are tired of “Republican Lite” we really do not want to vote for the “least worst option” like Rudy, they (and maybe me) would prefer to vote for Ron Paul, even though he more then likely won’t win, then to vote for a Democrat in Republican’s clothing.

If we are too be screwed either way, it is better to have the screwing come from a Democrat, then a Republican that is supposedly “on OUR side” doing things like raising taxes or banning firearms.

Ron Paul’s stances defien the differences between the two parties, we need that now more then any time since 1980.


66 posted on 07/20/2007 12:06:41 PM PDT by padre35 (Conservative in Exile.)
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To: Dead Corpse

I’m a realist who doesn’t want to see people wasting time on a candidate who cannot win while the Clintons move back into the White House. No favorite yet - I have 2 - 3 that I kind of like on our side, but I haven’t picked one yet. It is way too early for that. But I have eliminated Paul, and McCain and some of those other minor players who don’t have a snowball’s chance.


67 posted on 07/20/2007 12:27:04 PM PDT by Martins kid
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To: Martins kid

So you’ve eliminated Rudy as well?


68 posted on 07/20/2007 1:37:17 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (What would a free man do?)
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To: lormand
My worst nightmare would be pulling the lever for Rudy so as to not allow our foreign policy to be again hijacked by Klintons.

Financially, how are we going to pay for our foreign policy. The money to do so simply does not exist, which is why we're having to borrow absolutely incredible amounts of money yearly (heck even daily) just to finance what we're doing now.

No matter what you think of the current foreign policy, it doesn't really matter. The money is going to run out sooner or later anyway.

69 posted on 07/20/2007 11:33:14 PM PDT by MarcoPolo
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To: MarcoPolo
"No matter what you think of the current foreign policy, it doesn't really matter. The money is going to run out sooner or later anyway."

Well now that you put it that way, lets allow our well funded enemies to annihilate us and get it over with.

< /rolling eyes in sarcasm >

70 posted on 07/21/2007 7:55:49 AM PDT by lormand (Ron Paul - Surrender Monkey for GOP nominee.)
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To: ejonesie22
The market will balance out as it has for decades

No it won't. The institutionalization of corporate influence in government through public/private partnerships and the creation of supranational institutions such as the SPP has overcome the free market and the individual right to representation in government. It guarantees the existence of enormous multinational companies as long as the federal government exists in its current debased form.
71 posted on 07/21/2007 8:03:39 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer (I'm a billionaire! Thanks WTO and the "free trade" system!--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: lormand
You didn't answer my question. Unfortunately I failed to put a question mark on the end of it. Darn typos. :)

But in all seriousness, how are we going to pay for it?

72 posted on 07/21/2007 9:11:09 AM PDT by MarcoPolo
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To: MarcoPolo
"But in all seriousness, how are we going to pay for it?"

I'm sure all failed states in the history of mankind harbored such self defeating and suicidal thinking such as your "how are we going to pay for it" surrender mentality.

73 posted on 07/21/2007 9:57:13 AM PDT by lormand (Ron Paul - Surrender Monkey for GOP nominee.)
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To: lormand

That still doesn’t answer the question, and like it or not that is a question that will HAVE to be answered. We cannot spend endlessly. It must come from somewhere. Where?


74 posted on 07/21/2007 12:48:01 PM PDT by MarcoPolo
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To: MarcoPolo
"We cannot spend endlessly. It must come from somewhere. Where?"

Wealth in a free market is not stagnant. In a country like ours, wealth increases.

Do you make the same today that you did 10 years ago? I'm sure the US treasury is the same.

75 posted on 07/21/2007 12:55:49 PM PDT by lormand (...doing the research on Ron Paul that Paulistinians refuse to do.)
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To: lormand
Wealth in a free market is not stagnant.

Neither is inflation in costs. Though our salaries go up, we can't necessarily buy more because the costs of purchasing items (even necessary ones) go up as well, often proportionately. I would imagine this is the same with the costs of the weapons, ships, aircraft and munitions and such that the military has to manufacture or purchase in order to function. That's not to mention the raised cost of fuels and such which have exploded in the last ten years. The military must take that into account as well.

Basically what I'm saying is that we're already TRILLIONS of dollars in debt and cannot even afford to pay the debt we have now. With that said, there's no way we can afford any more debt.

76 posted on 07/21/2007 1:09:32 PM PDT by MarcoPolo
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To: MarcoPolo

Our defense strategy is to do more with less. Keeping actual dollar and human cost as low as possible, while achieving precise and overwhelming victory.


77 posted on 07/21/2007 1:14:18 PM PDT by lormand (...doing the research on Ron Paul that Paulistinians refuse to do.)
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To: hedgetrimmer
Which it won’t. It will take time but the big companies will collapse via some force, be it natural market trends or some other intervention. It is inevitable. It has happened before. Ask AT&T.

The government to will change, people will finally get fed up. (and FED up)

Sad thing is, it’s a damned cycle...

78 posted on 07/21/2007 1:16:07 PM PDT by ejonesie22 (Hillary has already beat Rudy, She is the better cross-dresser.)
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To: lormand
Our defense strategy is to do more with less. Keeping actual dollar and human cost as low as possible, while achieving precise and overwhelming victory.

That would be a financially reasonable strategy were it not for the fact that it's not actually being implemented well at all. This I think is evidenced by the Department of Defense's own long range forecast of military spending for not only this year but also the coming three years. (See www.defenselink.mil and look up "budget" and you can find this pdf file.) They project that over the next four years (2008-2011) our military spending requests may reach nearly 2 trillion dollars. (See Table 1-2 of the official published projected budget on the DoD website referenced above which was put out by the Office of the Under Secretary of Defense in March 2006.)

Add this nearly 2 trillion dollars to our current national debt of $8,897,854,185,086.96 (as per the Bureau of the Public Debt website on www.treasurydirect.gov), and we've got ourselves a recipe for national financial disaster---especially considering that that does not even include what we will be spending domestically.

Basically, we are spending ourselves into financial disaster, and that cannot go on very long either in our domestic programs or abroad.

79 posted on 07/21/2007 3:54:01 PM PDT by MarcoPolo
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To: All

Paul appears right last year.


80 posted on 09/30/2008 8:26:30 AM PDT by Sybeck1 (I've got dibs on the third boxcar down............)
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