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Ron Paul Lends His Views on SOX 5 Years Later[Sarbanes-Oxley]
Audit Trail ^ | 18 July 2007 | Audit Trail

Posted on 07/20/2007 8:06:04 AM PDT by BGHater

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To: padre35
Oh I just love 21st Century isolationist...

I could go and explain that we have a global economy built largely on the capitalist ideals and free enterprise system that the US was built on. I could tell you that in this day and age there are not enough of us in this country to sustain our economy if we were to cut ourselves off and our success in trade is only being impeded by our crazy labor laws and the insane salaries that have evolved due to unions. I could also explain that protecting our allies also protects our customers as well as those who bring us goods and services, that since we won’t develop our resources here by protecting our foreign supplies of oil and other materials we prevent our economy from grinding to a halt, however in this case it would be a waste of time...

41 posted on 07/20/2007 10:07:32 AM PDT by ejonesie22 (Hillary has already beat Rudy, She is the better cross-dresser.)
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To: ejonesie22

So we pay trillions for defense to protect whom exactly?


42 posted on 07/20/2007 10:11:45 AM PDT by padre35 (Conservative in Exile.)
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To: padre35
Us and our economy. They are inseparable...
43 posted on 07/20/2007 10:18:11 AM PDT by ejonesie22 (Hillary has already beat Rudy, She is the better cross-dresser.)
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To: ejonesie22

So “we the people” are paying to protect Intl Business interests?


44 posted on 07/20/2007 10:22:08 AM PDT by padre35 (Conservative in Exile.)
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To: padre35
No, WE the PEOPLE are protecting OUR business interest internationally...

We are international business interest. We are few people, (remember there is only 303 million of us out of 6.6 billion world wide) and yet have the highest GDP.

We are modern business and I am damned proud of that fact.

45 posted on 07/20/2007 10:28:26 AM PDT by ejonesie22 (Hillary has already beat Rudy, She is the better cross-dresser.)
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To: ejonesie22

So “we” all get to pay for “some” companies to prosper, and others go under?

Thanks, the one thing that bothers me about “internationalism” is the mechanics of “how” that works are never discussed, thanks for your frankness.

If our military is to ensure business runs smoothly, then why not say so? And you have.


46 posted on 07/20/2007 10:36:27 AM PDT by padre35 (Conservative in Exile.)
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To: padre35
I thought I did. Or do corporate citizens, you know those guys who do funny things like employee people and all that useless stuff, not deserve protection...

And the “we” have nothing to do with prosper and not prosper. I have been in both, my failures were mine, no one else's...

If you want to understand international business there are books and classes, but move quick, it changes. Silly capitalist and that useless free market of theirs...

47 posted on 07/20/2007 10:44:38 AM PDT by ejonesie22 (Hillary has already beat Rudy, She is the better cross-dresser.)
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To: ejonesie22

Is there Governmental involvement in a free market?

And do we have a “free market” or an increasingly Oligopolic market?


48 posted on 07/20/2007 10:51:26 AM PDT by padre35 (Conservative in Exile.)
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To: padre35

Actually 99% of “we the people” do not give Ron Paul any chance as a Presidential candidate. This thread is so scripted. I hope you Paul supporters are having fun talking among yourselves.


49 posted on 07/20/2007 10:54:36 AM PDT by Martins kid
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To: lormand

Who pays you to hate Ron Paul so much?


50 posted on 07/20/2007 10:55:04 AM PDT by Maeve (Do you have supplies for an extended emergency? Be prepared! Pray!)
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To: Martins kid

Are you so out of intellectual bullets that you have to reference polls? Paul has been as high as 3%, not that it matters particualrly, as his ideas and principles are more important to me, then his poll numbers.

So I ask again, has any other candidate mentioned Sarbannes/Oxley so far?


51 posted on 07/20/2007 11:07:57 AM PDT by padre35 (Conservative in Exile.)
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To: padre35
There are places for government protection, such as it pertains to protecting life and over all economic health.

Given the current rash of mergers and the like, one could cede that they are fewer players, but we have been there before. The market will balance out as it has for decades. Big companies become inefficient and someone will pick up the slack. Indeed may small businesses have been started for that very reason.

In a free market there was never any guarantee of a level playing field anyways. Been there done that.

52 posted on 07/20/2007 11:12:53 AM PDT by ejonesie22 (Hillary has already beat Rudy, She is the better cross-dresser.)
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To: Frobenius
...can anyone explain to me why Sarbanes-Oxley with its monstrous effects was jammed through by a supposedly pro-business Republican congress and president???

To deflect the political heat from the Enron and WorldCom collapses.

53 posted on 07/20/2007 11:14:13 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ("Wise men don't need to debate; men who need to debate are not wise." -- Tao Te Ching)
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To: BGHater
"Reform, or even repeal, of Sarbanes-Oxley remains one of my top priorities.

Dr. Paul is my hero.

54 posted on 07/20/2007 11:17:33 AM PDT by WhiteGuy (GOP Congress - 16,000 earmarks costing US $50 billion in 2006 - PAUL2008)
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To: ejonesie22

Federal Governmental and State Spending is at least 18% of the US Economy, the largest employer in the US is Walmart, number 2 is...The Goverment.

That is “why” I question whether or not such a huge apparatus to protect essentially private activity is the best use of taxpayers funds, it seems to me we are trading money paid in taxes for lower prices, a sort of snake eating it’s tail excercise.

Markets consolidate, that is the nature of things, however we may be seeing the rise of the Oligopolies right now, in sections that it will be hard to compete in such as Energy and Retailing and Banking and Media.


55 posted on 07/20/2007 11:32:28 AM PDT by padre35 (Conservative in Exile.)
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To: padre35
I agree with maybe 95% of what Ron Paul stands for. However, having a small government has no benefit if we are enslaved by our enemies in some manner or form.

Be wrong on foreign policy trumps all other qualifications combined.

56 posted on 07/20/2007 11:35:21 AM PDT by lormand (Ron Paul - Surrender Monkey for GOP nominee.)
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To: lormand

Maybe you should stick to the topic. Or do you even know what SOX is?


57 posted on 07/20/2007 11:35:52 AM PDT by CJ Wolf
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To: Maeve
"Who pays you to hate Ron Paul so much?"

Translation:

Please stop, you are confusing us with Ron Paul's own words.

58 posted on 07/20/2007 11:39:07 AM PDT by lormand (Ron Paul - Surrender Monkey for GOP nominee.)
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To: padre35
"now which other candidate is going to talk about SOBOX?"

What does your congresscritter think of it?

59 posted on 07/20/2007 11:44:48 AM PDT by lormand (Ron Paul - Surrender Monkey for GOP nominee.)
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To: lormand

“Being wrong on foreign policy disqualifies him...”

More or less, like it or not, we have important national and corporate interests in Iraq and Afghanistan, Dr. Paul may realize that or he may not, either way he made his stance on Iraq clear, and that makes him unelectable as a Repulbican, as much as I agree with Dr. No, he is off base on foreign policy at this point in time.

His ideas on other things are spot on, SOX for example, the debt and the deficit, role of government in “We the people’s” everyday lives.

It is my hope that some candidate basically picks up the good of Dr. Paul’s stances and leaves the unwise behind.

The only Republican candidate that I can see doing that is Fred Thompson, not Rudy nor Romney, though i do like Romney, he is no Constitutional Originalist.


60 posted on 07/20/2007 11:47:05 AM PDT by padre35 (Conservative in Exile.)
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