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Globalism [Ron Paul]
House.Gov ^ | 16 July 2007 | Ron Paul

Posted on 07/19/2007 8:52:30 AM PDT by BGHater

The recent defeat of the amnesty bill in the Senate came after outraged Americans made it clear to the political elite that they would not tolerate this legislation, which would further erode our national sovereignty. Similarly, polls increasingly show the unpopularity of the Iraq war, as well as of the Congress that seems incapable of ending it.

Because some people who vocally oppose amnesty are supportive of the war, the ideological connection between support of the war and amnesty is often masked. If there is a single word explaining the reasons why we continue to fight unpopular wars and see legislation like the amnesty bill nearly become law, that word is “globalism.”

The international elite, including many in the political and economic leadership of this country, believe our constitutional republic is antiquated and the loyalty Americans have for our form of government is like a superstition, needing to be done away with. When it benefits elites, they pay lip service to the American way, even while undermining it.

We must remain focused on what ideology underlies the approach being taken by those who see themselves as our ruling-class, and not get distracted by the passions of the moment or the rhetorical devices used to convince us how their plans will be “good for us.” Whether it is managed trade being presented under the rhetoric of “free trade,” or the ideas of “regime change” abroad and “making the world safe for democracy” -- the underlying principle is globalism.

Although different rhetoric is used in each instance, the basic underlying notion behind replacing regimes abroad and allowing foreign people to come to this country illegally is best understood by comprehending this ideal of the globalist elite. In one of his most lucid moments President Bush spoke of the “soft bigotry of low expectations.” Unfortunately, that bigotry is one of the core tenets at the heart of the globalist ideology.

The basic idea is that foreigners cannot manage their own affairs so we have to do it for them. This may require sending troops to far off lands that do not threaten us, and it may also require “welcoming with open arms” people who come here illegally. All along globalists claim a moral high ground, as if our government is responsible for ensuring the general welfare of all people. Yet the consequences are devastating to our own taxpayers, as well as many of those we claim to be helping.

Perhaps the most seriously damaged victim of this approach is our own constitutional republic, because globalism undermines both the republican and democratic traditions of this nation. Not only does it make a mockery of the self-rule upon which our republic is based, it also erodes the very institutions of our republic and replaces them with international institutions that are often incompatible with our way of life.

The defeat of the amnesty bill proves though that there is no infallible logic, or predetermined march of history, that forces globalism on us.


TOPICS: Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; boo; elections; freedom; globalism; kook; nau; nuts; paranoid; patriot; realconservative; ronpaul; ronpaul911truther; thevoicesinronshead
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To: lormand

I don’t remember seeing “gun powder” mentioned in the constitution.


181 posted on 07/19/2007 6:33:38 PM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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To: rhombus
So why didn't Jefferson and Adams guys dooooo anything about it? ;-)

The founders said a lot of things about what not to do... signing alliances being one thing.

They also wrote a brilliant document called the United States Constitution. I get goose bumps when I start to read it. However, if we look at the way things are in the US today.. it's almost like the constitution has become null and void.. an example, the ATF. Another example, reintroduction of the fairness doctrine. A third, invading countries (Iraq) with out a proper declaration of war from congress (which our constitution requires).

The founders have to be rolling over in their graves.
182 posted on 07/19/2007 6:33:59 PM PDT by BigTom85 (Proud Gun Owner and Member of NRA)
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To: Jokelahoma

You are incorrect, sir. Paul is not an isolationist. The United States’ presence abroad is more than just its military.

It is scary how many conservatives strongly identify with the federal government. You remember the government that ruins people’s lives? Yeah, same entity.


183 posted on 07/19/2007 6:40:53 PM PDT by John Farson (Cthulu for President -- why vote for the lesser evil?)
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To: BlackElk
We are we. They are the Islamofascisti. We trust us. We don’t trust them.

Yessssss, they must never have the preciousss !!

If Chinese troops invaded Mexico and Canada, wouldn't you support obtaining the most powerful and deadly weapons to defend our home?

Invasion and bullying only incentivizes the spread of nuclear technology.

Arms control, like gun control, is a misguided and lost cause.

184 posted on 07/19/2007 6:56:27 PM PDT by John Farson (Cthulu for President -- why vote for the lesser evil?)
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To: George W. Bush
The purpose of that list of questions was to raise questions about invading Iraq. And Iraq did not pose a credible threat of attack, certainly not an imminent one....I think the distinction is clear. Ron Paul voted against the invasion and regime change in Iraq because it did not pose such a threat. Subsequently, he was proven correct about the absence of al-Qaeda in Iraq prior to our invasion or Iraq's possession of WMD stockpiles and weapons to deliver them anywhere in the region.

A big DUHHHHHHHHHH

That means Ron Paul was opposed to the war in Iraq.

He was in fact right about the absence of al Qaida in Iraq.

Out effenstanding!!!

Of course no one claimed al Qaida was present in Iraq, or claimed their presence as a reason to invade, but no matter.

He was correct about the lack of WMDs. IMO Powell is correct that they would have been there in spades had we not invaded an sanctions lifted.

But no matter.

Ron opposed the war, perhaps history will prove hiim right, but that's a simple fact.

185 posted on 07/19/2007 7:06:49 PM PDT by SJackson (isolationism never was, never will be acceptable response to[expansionist] tyrannical governments)
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To: cinives

I’m really tired of posters like you.


186 posted on 07/19/2007 7:17:05 PM PDT by SittinYonder (Ic þæt gehate, þæt ic heonon nelle fleon fotes trym, ac wille furðor gan)
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To: nicmarlo
And if that's how you think, you're a moron.

Just for posting that you're a moron.

187 posted on 07/19/2007 7:17:52 PM PDT by SittinYonder (Ic þæt gehate, þæt ic heonon nelle fleon fotes trym, ac wille furðor gan)
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To: SJackson
Ron opposed the war, perhaps history will prove hiim right, but that's a simple fact.

Opposing the war is nothing to be ashamed of.

Even William F. Buckley, Jr. reconsidered and said he would've opposed our invasion of Iraq. It is only the kool-aid drinkers who insist on denying reality.

188 posted on 07/19/2007 7:18:14 PM PDT by John Farson (Cthulu for President -- why vote for the lesser evil?)
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To: John Farson
Opposing the war is nothing to be ashamed of.

No, it's not. So why not acknowledge it.

But explanations of honest opposition at the time don't need to be hedged with but this or because of that or I supported it, but, or first or before I didn't. Causes confusion with the dems

189 posted on 07/19/2007 7:21:21 PM PDT by SJackson (isolationism never was, never will be acceptable response to[expansionist] tyrannical governments)
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To: SittinYonder

If you had intelligence *maybe* you’re ridiculous remark would bother me. But, you already proved you lack that.


190 posted on 07/19/2007 7:21:25 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: Martins kid

I’ll bump to that, old bean. ;-)


191 posted on 07/19/2007 7:23:25 PM PDT by Xenophon450 (Ah, the liberals, they are numerous but not good for much.)
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To: Grunthor; saganite
“Hmm. Makes a hell of a lot of sense. Maybe I’ll have another look at his candidacy. Not that I think he can win but his positions do resonate with a lot of what’s right here on FR.”

Oh he’s right on a lot of issues near and dear to me. It’s where he’s wrong that’ll get you killed.

Well said. That is the most succinct and correct description I have yet seen of the fatal flaw in Ron Paul's view of reality.

192 posted on 07/19/2007 8:11:29 PM PDT by tarheelswamprat
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To: tarheelswamprat

Thank you.


193 posted on 07/19/2007 8:16:46 PM PDT by Grunthor (Wouldn’t it be music to our ears to hear the Iranian mullahs shouting “Incoming!”?)
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To: tarheelswamprat
It’s where he’s wrong that’ll get you killed.

You are more likely to die in a car accident or heart attack than a terrorist attack.

I am not afraid. Why are you?

194 posted on 07/19/2007 8:43:39 PM PDT by John Farson (Cthulu for President -- why vote for the lesser evil?)
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To: Puddleglum

“Man, we got no Reagan, but we have a lot of neocons who tell everybody to shut up if you threaten to stray from the planatation.”

Spot on with that comment BUMP. Some of us actually support Paul even though we might disagree with some of his reasoning on the WOT because we trust him to 1) declare wars 2) actually FIGHT the wars he declares and 3) run the WH like the Constitution comes before the U.N. Charter and the global kleptocrats donating to the RNC.


195 posted on 07/19/2007 8:50:47 PM PDT by LibertarianInExile ("What a cruel reflection that a rich country cannot long be a free one." --Thomas Jefferson)
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To: ovrtaxt

That’s why conservatism benefits from genuine debates that include Ron Paul.


196 posted on 07/19/2007 9:03:28 PM PDT by Nephi ( $100m ante is a symptom of the old media... the Ron Paul Revolution is the new media's choice.)
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To: BlackElk
"I do not believe in “moral equivalency” paleopantywaist arguments that: Gee, if we have nukes, isn’t it only fair that Muhammed el-Kaboomski have nukes too?"

Rep. Ron Paul: Clearly, language threatening to wipe a nation or a group of people off the map is to be condemned by all civilized people. And I do condemn any such language. But why does threatening Iran with a pre-emptive strike, as many here have done, not also deserve the same kind of condemnation? And we wonder why the rest of the world accuses us of behaving hypocritically, of telling the rest of the world “do as we say, not as we do.”

197 posted on 07/19/2007 11:19:24 PM PDT by anglian
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To: SJackson
I diagree with Paul in so far as Iraq did attack us. Obviously he does not understand or refuses to understand the concept of state-sponsored terrorism.
However points 30 and 31 should be discussed.
30. Where does the Constitution grant us permission to wage war for any reason other than self-defense?
The Constiuttion does not indicate the reason for declaring war or even the proper language of a declaration of war. PAul; is simply Constitutionally illiterate.

31. Is it not true that a war against Iraq rejects the sentiments of the time-honored Treaty of Westphalia, nearly 400 years ago, that countries should never go into another for the purpose of regime change?
While I support the ideal of a nation-state allowed by the Treat of Westphalia, the simple fact is that we have overthrown hostile regimes and should when they pose a threat.
We are not talking about Protestant - Catholic wars in Germany anymore but global Jihad.

198 posted on 07/20/2007 12:51:07 AM PDT by rmlew (Build a wall, attrit the illegals, end the anchor babies, Americanize Immigrants)
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To: John Farson
Arms control, like gun control, is a misguided and lost cause.
So criminals should be given gins, then.

Get real. Iran is a Islamist terrorist regime, which has called for the destruction of the US and has been waging a proxy war against us.

199 posted on 07/20/2007 12:55:45 AM PDT by rmlew (Build a wall, attrit the illegals, end the anchor babies, Americanize Immigrants)
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To: anglian
Anyone who cannot differentiation between a limited strike on strategic and tactical targets of a regime waging a proxy war against us and the use of WMDs to commit genocide is unfit to be in the House much less be President.
It infers a complete lack of moral reasoning or proportion.
200 posted on 07/20/2007 12:59:08 AM PDT by rmlew (Build a wall, attrit the illegals, end the anchor babies, Americanize Immigrants)
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