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Globalism [Ron Paul]
House.Gov ^ | 16 July 2007 | Ron Paul

Posted on 07/19/2007 8:52:30 AM PDT by BGHater

The recent defeat of the amnesty bill in the Senate came after outraged Americans made it clear to the political elite that they would not tolerate this legislation, which would further erode our national sovereignty. Similarly, polls increasingly show the unpopularity of the Iraq war, as well as of the Congress that seems incapable of ending it.

Because some people who vocally oppose amnesty are supportive of the war, the ideological connection between support of the war and amnesty is often masked. If there is a single word explaining the reasons why we continue to fight unpopular wars and see legislation like the amnesty bill nearly become law, that word is “globalism.”

The international elite, including many in the political and economic leadership of this country, believe our constitutional republic is antiquated and the loyalty Americans have for our form of government is like a superstition, needing to be done away with. When it benefits elites, they pay lip service to the American way, even while undermining it.

We must remain focused on what ideology underlies the approach being taken by those who see themselves as our ruling-class, and not get distracted by the passions of the moment or the rhetorical devices used to convince us how their plans will be “good for us.” Whether it is managed trade being presented under the rhetoric of “free trade,” or the ideas of “regime change” abroad and “making the world safe for democracy” -- the underlying principle is globalism.

Although different rhetoric is used in each instance, the basic underlying notion behind replacing regimes abroad and allowing foreign people to come to this country illegally is best understood by comprehending this ideal of the globalist elite. In one of his most lucid moments President Bush spoke of the “soft bigotry of low expectations.” Unfortunately, that bigotry is one of the core tenets at the heart of the globalist ideology.

The basic idea is that foreigners cannot manage their own affairs so we have to do it for them. This may require sending troops to far off lands that do not threaten us, and it may also require “welcoming with open arms” people who come here illegally. All along globalists claim a moral high ground, as if our government is responsible for ensuring the general welfare of all people. Yet the consequences are devastating to our own taxpayers, as well as many of those we claim to be helping.

Perhaps the most seriously damaged victim of this approach is our own constitutional republic, because globalism undermines both the republican and democratic traditions of this nation. Not only does it make a mockery of the self-rule upon which our republic is based, it also erodes the very institutions of our republic and replaces them with international institutions that are often incompatible with our way of life.

The defeat of the amnesty bill proves though that there is no infallible logic, or predetermined march of history, that forces globalism on us.


TOPICS: Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; boo; elections; freedom; globalism; kook; nau; nuts; paranoid; patriot; realconservative; ronpaul; ronpaul911truther; thevoicesinronshead
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To: Optimist

Why aren’t we in Africa ? Because no matter who’s in power, their resources are for sale to anyone with cash.

Additionally, we can’t bomb them back to the stone age because they practically already live there.


161 posted on 07/19/2007 4:34:22 PM PDT by cinives (On some planets what I do is considered normal.)
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To: SittinYonder
Anyone who thinks that we should preserve private property rights for citizens and reduce the size and scope of the federal government is a fruit cake, just like Ron Paul.

You post like someone from DU. I am really tired of posters like you who can talk trash but can't argue their way out of a wet paper bag.

162 posted on 07/19/2007 4:36:36 PM PDT by cinives (On some planets what I do is considered normal.)
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To: SittinYonder
Anyone who thinks that we should preserve private property rights for citizens and reduce the size and scope of the federal government is a fruit cake

And if that's how you think, you're a moron.

163 posted on 07/19/2007 4:39:29 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: SJackson
I strongly oppose House Joint Resolution 75 because it solves none of our problems and only creates new ones. Though the legislation before us today does wisely excise the most objectionable part of the original text of H.J. Res. 75 – the resolution clause stating that by not obeying a UN resolution Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein has been committing an "act of aggression" against the United States – what remains in the legislation only serves to divert our attention from what should be our number one priority at this time: finding and bringing to justice those who attacked the United States on September 11, 2001.

And he was right too... Or have we secretly caught Osama and brought Al Queda to it's knees?

164 posted on 07/19/2007 4:43:34 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (What would a free man do?)
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To: rhombus
People whine when unemployment goes over 5%, can you imagine huge federal layoffs as well as all the trickle down jobs driven by federal spending?

You really need to read some Ludwig von Mises or Friedrich Hayek. There were vibrant economies long before governments stifled their productivity with endless taxes and regulations. Those people might actually have to get jobs that would require them to contribute positively to human well-being.

Let me put it in simplistic terms for you. Can you imagine life without April 15, accountants, tax lawyers, bureaucrats pushing man-years of regulations on your business ?

165 posted on 07/19/2007 4:46:09 PM PDT by cinives (On some planets what I do is considered normal.)
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To: billbears

Exactly.


166 posted on 07/19/2007 4:48:10 PM PDT by cinives (On some planets what I do is considered normal.)
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To: HoustonTech
Globalism has nothing to do with either the war on terror or amnesty,

The reason most voted for the amnesty bill was to get a political advantage with Hispanics.

We would never have seen that advantage. There are Republicans in the Cuban section of the Hispanics, but not so much in the 12 million illegals, nor in the millions more that would flood in behind them. This bill would have put 'Republican' with 'Whig' in the list of obsolete political parties. If not immediately, then whenever Social Security or the health system goes bust from the added freeloaders and it all gets blamed on the GOP.

There never was any valid possibility of switching 12 million Hispanic Democrats to the Republican side to balance out the new 12 million Democrat voters. There is no way that Kennedy wasn't going to get all the credit in the MSM.

167 posted on 07/19/2007 4:51:59 PM PDT by slowhandluke (It's hard work to be cynical enough in this age)
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To: slowhandluke

When I said “most” I had Democrats primarily in mind. I give the few Republicans who voted for it more credit than that.


168 posted on 07/19/2007 5:12:46 PM PDT by HoustonTech (Duncan Hunter, call off your dogs!)
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To: cinives

There you go. Just like Ron Paul, blaming someone other than the terrorists themselves for 9/11.


169 posted on 07/19/2007 5:15:04 PM PDT by HoustonTech
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To: cinives; nicmarlo
If we had control of our borders and didn’t let in folk from nutjob countries on visas that we can’t track, there wouldn’t have been a 9/11 either.

Bump!

170 posted on 07/19/2007 5:25:22 PM PDT by Borax Queen
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To: Borax Queen; cinives
If we had control of our borders and didn’t let in folk from nutjob countries on visas that we can’t track, there wouldn’t have been a 9/11 either.

exactly; but that's not good enough....we're not only letting them still in, on the same "conditions," but Bush has thrown out the red carpet to given special expeditement to those who live in muslim countries and want to come here.

Doesn't that make you feel just so "fluffy" inside. : )

171 posted on 07/19/2007 5:38:02 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: George W. Bush

“At any rate, it’s a pretty reasonable standard “

It’s a double standard. One is applied to Al Qaeda in Afganistan, and a different one applied to Al Qaeda in Iraq. Fighting al qaeda in Afganistan is constitutional, even without a declaration of war. But fighting al qaeda in Iraq is unconstitutional, because there was no declaration of war.

“Well, unless only a dictator makes you feel safe....then you really need to go with a dictator.”

No, just because I don’t believe Operation Iraqi Freedom violates our constitution doesn’t mean I want to live under a dictator. That is fallacious.

” Destroying it as the basis of our rule of law is not in the interest of conservatives. Ever.”

There is nothing of substance to these fallacious arguements. Nowhere did I advocate destroying the constitution. I was talking about Paul’s double standard regarding Iraq and Afganistan.

“I think you know I was referring to al-Qaeda within Iraq prior to our invasion (which created a power vacuum into which they poured to kill our soldiers). “

You were? I was responding to your statement that “Saddam executed Islamic radicals out of hand as a danger to his regime just as other Arab dictators do.” Since you now claim that you were referring to Al Qaeda, what Al Qaeda radicals did Saddam execute? Saddam harbored terrorists. This in and of itself puts him in violation of our cease fire agreement. What would have Ron Paul done to enforce Saddam’s compliance to this agreement in regards to terrorism?

“I’ve read of no organization called “Al Qaeda in Iraq”. “

This explains alot.lol


172 posted on 07/19/2007 5:38:12 PM PDT by death2tyrants
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To: nicmarlo
Doesn't that make you feel just so "fluffy" inside. : )

How special. How nice that he will be safe in Paraguay or wherever.

173 posted on 07/19/2007 5:43:59 PM PDT by Borax Queen
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To: Borax Queen

it’s totally “spesh”. : )


174 posted on 07/19/2007 5:44:29 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: death2tyrants
It’s a double standard. One is applied to Al Qaeda in Afganistan, and a different one applied to Al Qaeda in Iraq. Fighting al qaeda in Afganistan is constitutional, even without a declaration of war. But fighting al qaeda in Iraq is unconstitutional, because there was no declaration of war.

No one has ever questioned the presence of al-Qaeda in Afghanistan and in Pakistan's tribal areas, allied with and harbored by the Taliban warlords.

In Iraq, no one ever found any al-Qaeda prior to our invasion or even for some months after we had conquered Saddam's forces.

The invasion of Iraq was over Saddam's supposed violations of treaty obligations that forbid the development of WMD. And yet, no stockpile of WMD was found, no storage facilities for WMD, no credible missile platforms (though there was a set of rockets they were trying to modify so they could fly something like 150 miles instead of the 70 miles or so they were designed for).

I think you don't have any consistent set of standards over the use of force. Now you may think that's fine. But maybe you should think about what President Hillary will do with that same exact power. Maybe put our troops under the U.N.'s control wearing the blue helmets and fighting under grossly incompetent foreign commanders?

There is nothing of substance to these fallacious arguements. Nowhere did I advocate destroying the constitution. I was talking about Paul’s double standard regarding Iraq and Afganistan.

Being casual over the provisions of the Constitution or completely ignoring destroys its power as the safeguard of our liberty. It is a fundamental goal of the Left. They have drooled at the thought of convincing us all to hold a new consitutional convention since the Sixties.

You were? I was responding to your statement that “Saddam executed Islamic radicals out of hand as a danger to his regime just as other Arab dictators do.” Since you now claim that you were referring to Al Qaeda, what Al Qaeda radicals did Saddam execute?

Muslim regimes routinely execute or disappear radical clerics. I was not aware that our ceasefire with Saddam and the U.N. resolutions specifically dealt with harboring terrorists. I can only recall the one well-known Pali terrorist. But certainly, we know Saddam sent money to the families of Pali suicide bombers, not unusual. Some of the Saudi princes routinely did the same. Should we invade the Saudis too? Of course not.

However, we are seeing new reports from our military and the WH just today which speak directly to an al-Qaeda threat and how we may need to take direct action (invade) Pakistan's tribal areas. I certainly would support doing anything necessary to capture/kill all the al-Qaeda leadership responsible for 9/11 and their key associates and those who harbor them. Ron Paul indicated in an interview two days ago that he thought we had failed to be aggressive enough to capture Osama.

So, you're saying there is a group that identifies itself as "al-Qaeda In Iraq" as the name of their group? And that they are directly affiliated and act under orders from the Bin Laden organization?
175 posted on 07/19/2007 6:01:33 PM PDT by George W. Bush (Rudy: tough on terror, scared of Iowa)
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To: nicmarlo; Borax Queen; cinives
exactly; but that's not good enough....we're not only letting them still in, on the same "conditions," but Bush has thrown out the red carpet to given special expeditement to those who live in muslim countries and want to come here.

Maybe it's time to start pointing out more forcefully that we may have one real choice in 2008: either continue our invasions of the Mideast or repel these invasions in our own country. You can pick one of the same-old-same-old GOP establishment candidates for the globalist option. Or you can pick Ron Paul if you value our country more.
176 posted on 07/19/2007 6:06:39 PM PDT by George W. Bush (Rudy: tough on terror, scared of Iowa)
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To: George W. Bush; Borax Queen; cinives
You can pick one of the same-old-same-old GOP establishment candidates for the globalist option. Or you can pick Ron Paul if you value our country more.

That does seem to be the fact of the matter.

177 posted on 07/19/2007 6:08:52 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: George W. Bush

I absolutely favor Israel doing, by whatever means necessary including nukes, whatever needs doing to prevent ANY Islamofascist power in the Mideast from obtaining nukes. If we lack the backbone to do it, thank God that Israel will do it. I do not believe in “moral equivalency” paleopantywaist arguments that: Gee, if we have nukes, isn’t it only fair that Muhammed el-Kaboomski have nukes too? No it is not. We are we. They are the Islamofascisti. We trust us. We don’t trust them. This is not brain surgery. It is so simple that even paleoPaulie and his loveslaves should understand but, of course, they don’t and won’t.


178 posted on 07/19/2007 6:18:20 PM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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To: George W. Bush
...either continue our invasions of the Mideast or repel these invasions in our own country. You can pick one of the same-old-same-old GOP establishment candidates for the globalist option. Or you can pick Ron Paul if you value our country more.

BTTT

179 posted on 07/19/2007 6:20:19 PM PDT by Borax Queen
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To: death2tyrants

Also, don’t forget Abu Nidal who was the guy that Ollie North did not want his wife and kids to have to confront. Mr. Nidal was reported to have committed “suicide” by firing four or five bullets into the back of his own head just before the American bombers appeared over Baghdad where he had been living.


180 posted on 07/19/2007 6:27:49 PM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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