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The "Evolving" Fred Thompson Saga
CBN ^ | 7/19/07 | David Brody

Posted on 07/19/2007 7:33:24 AM PDT by pissant

This may be the political version of Evolution. The New York Times is out this morning with a story about billing records that show Fred Thompson did indeed charge for his time while helping a pro-choice group. Details from the article below:

Billing records show that former Senator Fred Thompson spent nearly 20 hours working as a lobbyist on behalf of a group seeking to ease restrictive federal rules on abortion counseling in the 1990s, even though he recently said he did not recall doing any work for the organization.

According to records from Arent Fox, the law firm based in Washington where Mr. Thompson worked part-time from 1991 to 1994, he charged the organization, the National Family Planning and Reproductive Health Association, about $5,000 for work he did in 1991 and 1992. The records show that Mr. Thompson, a probable Republican candidate for president in 2008, spent much of that time in telephone conferences with the president of the group, and on three occasions he reported lobbying administration officials on its behalf.

Mr. Thompson's work for the family planning agency has become an issue because he is positioning himself as a faithful conservative who is opposed to abortion.

Read the whole article here. The Brody File has a call in to Thompson's people. Check back later for an update. Already, email is coming into The Brody File about the story. Here's one:

"The significance of this is not what Fred did 16 years ago. Had he been candid and honest, and explained himself, all would be well. The issue is that Fred lied for political expediency, and allowed others on his staff to do so on his behalf."

Lied may too strong a word. It seems like Thompson did what most politicians do. They beat around the bush and try to avoid an outright apology. Let's review shall we?

When this story first broke, Thompson's spokesman Mark Corallo said the following:

"Fred Thompson did not lobby for this group, period."

Then it became Thompson had "no recollection of doing any work on behalf of this group. He may have been consulted by one of the firm's partners who represented this group in 1991".

Days after the story broke, Thompson told radio talk show Sean Hannity:

"You need to separate a lawyer advocating a position from the position itself. They will probably come at me, in 35 years of law practice, with some people, I represented criminal defendants. I was a prosecutor. I had a general law practice. So that in and of itself doesn't mean anything anyway. … I'm not going to get down in the weeds with everything they dredge up over the next six months."

Thompson also sent in a column to the Powerline blog where he seemed to suggest he did some work:

"A lawyer who is a candidate or a prospective candidate for office finds himself in an interesting position because of the nature of the legal profession and the practice of law. … I've experienced another gambit of those schooled in the creative uses of law and politics: dredging up clients - or another lawyer's clients -that I may have represented or consulted with and then using the media to get me into a public debate as to what I may have done for them or said to them 15 or 20 years ago. Even if my memory serves me correctly, Even it would not be appropriate for a lawyer to make such comments."

Any way you slice it, what we have here is an "evolving story". This isn't really about the abortion issue. Because of Thompson's consistent pro-life record in the Senate, pro-family groups will probably give him a pass on that aspect. But Thompson needs to be careful. He wants people to see him as a plain spoken, tell it like it is southerner. But evolving stories like this are normally left to "inside the beltway" Washington insiders. For his campaign to be successful, he needs to be seen as a Washington outsider not just another politician who is spinning his way out of a mess.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: abortion; cbn; elections; fred; fredthompson; nfprha; wilma
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To: Alter Kaker

How was Thompson VOTING record on Abortion?

The rest is noise.


21 posted on 07/19/2007 7:55:20 AM PDT by Leto
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To: ejonesie22
Horse Hockey.

I'm not saying I'm against Fred Thompson, but the idea that he's a conservative Messiah is a bit ridiculous. He should be honest and admit his views on abortion have been somewhat fluid.

Given his record on abortion, he shouldn't be given any more of a pass than Giuliani or Romney on the issue -- he needs to go out and earn support.

22 posted on 07/19/2007 7:56:51 AM PDT by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: pissant

“Because of Thompson’s consistent pro-life record in the Senate, pro-family groups will probably give him a pass on that aspect. But Thompson needs to be careful. He wants people to see him as a plain spoken, tell it like it is southerner.”

Amen! If you messed up Fred, just say so, don’t do damage control it doesn’t work. And while your at it, get rid of the homosexuals on your campaign payroll - that’s going to bite you on the backside eventually.

For those that want to diss this, notice it was published by “CBN.” The Christian Broadcast Network - a major outlet for religious conservatives. It is not a “hit-piece.”


23 posted on 07/19/2007 7:57:22 AM PDT by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: Bryan24
The funny thing about all this is the missing part. No one has described the nature of this 20 hours of work. This organization is multifaceted, it’s not some abortion clinic or the like. While they may present that as an option, its not the center piece from what it looks like.

If someone came up and asked if he lobbied for abortion rights, he may very well be in the right for saying no, if that was not the nature of the work he did for the group. When the specifics came out, then he would have a better idea about the question.

24 posted on 07/19/2007 7:57:52 AM PDT by ejonesie22 (Hillary has already beat Rudy, She is the better cross-dresser.)
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To: Leto
How was Thompson VOTING record on Abortion?

Abortion was never put to an up or down vote when Thompson was in the Senate. He voted in favor of a few reasonable restrictions, but as far as I know he still stands by statements he's made that he wants abortion-on-demand to be legal in every state.

25 posted on 07/19/2007 7:58:07 AM PDT by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: Leto
BINGO
26 posted on 07/19/2007 7:58:13 AM PDT by Right_Rev (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. Edmund Burke)
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To: Alter Kaker

WHAT in the hell does it matter what his position on abortion is????????? FOR pete sakes we need a good candidate and do any of you see one running right now, would you rather see the Clinton slime back in the WH???

Come on folks, if he picks conserv. judges, what does his position on this matter, we need someone strong on defense NOW and nothing else matters.


27 posted on 07/19/2007 7:59:14 AM PDT by Amanda75 (Amanda75)
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To: Alter Kaker
BUMMER
28 posted on 07/19/2007 7:59:44 AM PDT by Right_Rev (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. Edmund Burke)
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To: pissant
This isn't really about the abortion issue. Because of Thompson's consistent pro-life record in the Senate, pro-family groups will probably give him a pass on that aspect

LOL.....the story began as an abortion story, but because of Fred's strong anti-abortion record the abortion angle has obviously fizzled and now the anti-fred's are admitting it.....talk about backpeddling...bwhahahahaha

Now they are desperately trying to latch on to Fred and his staff's recall about it in order to salvage some damage to Fred...LOL.

This will have no measurable effect on the Fred train......sorry anti-freds....thanks for playing....

29 posted on 07/19/2007 8:00:07 AM PDT by HerrBlucher (Tack it up and shut em down Fred!)
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To: Amanda75
WHAT in the hell does it matter what his position on abortion is?????????

I don't know -- what does anybody's position on anything matter? If you don't care about conservative issues, why be a Republican?

30 posted on 07/19/2007 8:00:09 AM PDT by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: Alter Kaker

He has never said that.

You are lying again. At worst, he’s Federalist on the issues, which means overturn Roe and return the issue to the pre-1970s condition, which is the states.

Last time I checked Bush, the perfect pro lifer, hasn’t done that himself...(overturned Roe I mean)


31 posted on 07/19/2007 8:00:34 AM PDT by RockinRight (FRedOn. Apply Directly To The White House!)
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To: Alter Kaker

Oh, maybe because he’s the most pro life electable candidate?


32 posted on 07/19/2007 8:01:07 AM PDT by RockinRight (FRedOn. Apply Directly To The White House!)
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To: pissant

Ha, ha, ha! You’re working so hard against your “#2 guy,” that you won’t be able to vote for him in the general elections. LOL!

I know that you’ve got your hopes soaring on this one. I hope you’re wearing a parachute.


33 posted on 07/19/2007 8:01:09 AM PDT by Clara Lou (Thompson-Hunter '08-- imwithfred.com)
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To: Alter Kaker

“but as far as I know he still stands by statements he’s made that he wants abortion-on-demand to be legal in every state.”

You need to provide the source for those statements, AND the statements themselves. As far as I know, Thomspon has never stated that.


34 posted on 07/19/2007 8:01:49 AM PDT by Bryan24 (When in doubt, move to the right..........)
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To: Amanda75

If I were you, I’d ask admin to delete that post.


35 posted on 07/19/2007 8:02:31 AM PDT by Clara Lou (Thompson-Hunter '08-- imwithfred.com)
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To: Alter Kaker
What the bloody hell are you talking about. Look at the real record. Yes his stance was nonexistent 20 years ago, it wasn’t part of what he was dealing with, it was not a part of his world. Once he entered the Senate and had to become involved in all the issues, his abortion views rapidly coalesced. His record is quite clear from then on.

Comparing him to Romney and even more Rudy. Give me a break.

36 posted on 07/19/2007 8:02:48 AM PDT by ejonesie22 (Hillary has already beat Rudy, She is the better cross-dresser.)
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To: pissant
Brody? um, yeah. he's a rudybot.
37 posted on 07/19/2007 8:03:39 AM PDT by xsmommy
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To: D Rider
19 hours in 2 years ?

LESS THAN 20 YEARS AGO!

AND ... at an obvious cut rate of $250/hr for a favored client.

so, he charged them $5000 to tell them they really had no shot in their quest. (which is an educated guess on my part because it was clear that the admnistration had zero interest in entertaining changes in the law, and FRed clearly knew that. likely the 3.3 hours actually talking to others was just to clarify positions and confirm what he already knew)

38 posted on 07/19/2007 8:03:50 AM PDT by dougd
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To: Alter Kaker
as far as I know he still stands by statements he's made that he wants abortion-on-demand to be legal in every state. You like to play it fast and loose, don't you?
39 posted on 07/19/2007 8:04:18 AM PDT by Clara Lou (Thompson-Hunter '08-- imwithfred.com)
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To: RockinRight
He has never said that. You are lying again.

"The ultimate decision must be made by the women. Government should treat its citizens as adults capable of making moral decisions on their own."
-Fred Thompson, 1994, explaining why he opposed efforts to outlaw abortion.
Last time I checked Bush, the perfect pro lifer, hasn’t done that himself...(overturned Roe I mean)

No, of course he hasn't overturned Roe, but he doesn't have the power to do so. But Bush has supported pro-life legislation and he's appointed two solid pro lifers to the Supreme Court. Would President Thompson fight as hard as Bush has to keep the Hyde Amendment? Maybe yes maybe no, but I think Thompson has to go out and prove his worth. So far he hasn't done so.

40 posted on 07/19/2007 8:04:53 AM PDT by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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