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Senate scuttles troop withdrawal bill (52-47, well short of the 60 votes needed to cut off debate)
ap on Yahoo ^ | 7/18/07 | Anne Flaherty - ap

Posted on 07/18/2007 10:24:53 AM PDT by NormsRevenge

WASHINGTON - Senate Republicans scuttled a Democratic proposal ordering troop withdrawals from Iraq in a showdown Wednesday that capped an all-night debate on the war.

The 52-47 vote fell short of the 60 votes needed to cut off debate under Senate rules. It was a sound defeat for Democrats who say the U.S. military campaign, in its fifth year and requiring 158,000 troops, cannot tame the sectarian violence in Iraq.

"We have to get us out of a middle of a civil war" said Sen. Joseph Biden, D-Del., who chairs the Foreign Relations Committee. A political solution must be found "so when we leave Iraq, we don't just send our children home, we don't have to send our grandchildren back."

As members cast their votes, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice hurried between private meetings with lawmakers in their Capitol Hill offices to make the administration's case for the war.

On a trip to Afghanistan, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Gen. Peter Pace said the U.S. "can do whatever it is we want to do to have a dialogue about how to fight this enemy. But the bottom line is that as long as our enemy is sworn to destroy our way of life, we are going to be in a war."

The Democratic proposal, by Sens. Carl Levin, D-Mich., and Jack Reed, D-R.I., would have required President Bush to start bringing home troops within 120 days and complete the pullout by April 30, 2008. Under the bill, an unspecified number of troops could remain behind to conduct a narrow set of missions: counterterrorism, protecting U.S. assets and training Iraqi security forces.

Republicans were mostly unified in their opposition to sidetrack the legislation, with four exceptions. Three Republicans — Sens. Gordon Smith of Oregon, Olympia Snowe of Maine and Chuck Hagel of Nebraska — announced previously they support setting a deadline on the war.

Sen. Susan Collins, R-Maine, who is up for re-election next year, also voted to advance the bill. Spokesman Kevin Kelley said Collins believes the measure should be subject to a simple majority vote and not the 60 votes needed to end a filibuster. She opposes the legislation, however, Kelley said.

Other GOP members, while uneasy about the war, said they could not support legislation that would force Bush to adhere to a firm pullout date.

"The amendment tells our enemies when they can take over in Iraq," said Sen. Saxby Chambliss, R-Ga., who also is up for re-election next year.

The bill "is the wrong approach at the wrong time," he added.

The maneuvering occurred as the Senate debated a broad defense bill that includes a pay raise for the troops, revised regulations for detaining suspects in the war on terror and an increase in the size of the Army and Marines. Following the vote, Reid said he would suspend work on the measure, to which the Democrats sought to attach the troop withdrawal provision, until a date to be determined.

By pulling the defense bill, Democrats leave open the possibility of resurrecting the debate in September, when Iraq commander Gen. David Petraeus is expected to deliver his assessment of the recent troop buildup. Also in September, Congress plans to consider a war spending bill to continue combat after Oct. 1.

Democrats are hoping that, by then, enough GOP members will turn against Bush on the war and vote to bring troops home.

Among lawmakers scheduled to meet with Rice were Biden, Smith, Sen. John Warner, R-Va., and House Republican leader John Boehner of Ohio.

The vote came after a rare, round-the-clock session Democrats used to highlight Republican support for Bush's Iraq strategy. Republicans said the all-nighter was a useless political stunt.

"All we have achieved are remarkably similar newspaper accounts of our inflated sense of the drama of this display and our own temporary physical fatigue," said Sen. John McCain of Arizona, presidential candidate and the top Republican on the Armed Services Committe.

Most senators got a chance for a few hours of shuteye even while a handful of their colleagues took turns droning on through the night with floor speeches.

With a half-dozen spectators watching from the gallery, Republicans Collins and Sen. John Thune of South Dakota were among those speaking during the long night, joined by Democrats Bob Menendez of New Jersey, Debbie Stabenow of Michigan and Jim Webb of Virginia. McCain finished his speech around 4:10 a.m. He was followed by White House hopeful Hillary Clinton, D-N.Y.

While the issue was momentous — a war more than four years in duration, costing more than 3,600 U.S. troops their lives — the proceedings were thick with politics.

MoveOn.org, the anti-war group, announced plans for more than 130 events around the country to coincide with the Senate debate, part of an effort to pressure Republicans into allowing a final vote on the legislation. A candlelight vigil and rally across the street from the Capitol was prominent among them, with Democratic leaders attending.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 110th; congress; scuttles; senate; troop; withdrawal
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Senate Vote On the Motion (Motion to Invoke Cloture on the Levin Amdt. No. 2087 )

http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=110&session=1&vote=00252


21 posted on 07/18/2007 11:09:34 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Welcome to FR. The Virtual Boot Camp for 'infidels' in waiting)
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Ok, Tom, you had your vote,, again.
Now STFU.

In an image made from the Senate television pool broadcast, Sen. Tom Harkin, D-Iowa, speaks on the floor of the Senate early Wednesday morning July 18, 2007. Democrats organized the all-night session to dramatize opposition to the Iraq war but conceded they were unlikely to gain the votes needed to advance troop withdrawal legislation blocked by Republicans. (AP Photo/AP Television)

22 posted on 07/18/2007 11:12:33 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Welcome to FR. The Virtual Boot Camp for 'infidels' in waiting)
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To: NormsRevenge
The Republicans are filibustering because they are afraid to bring anything about Iraq to an up-or-down vote. The polls show that what the Republicans want, the public does not want. The Republicans are afraid they will start losing in Congress, and then the losses will snowball. If they lose the Iraq war as all the signs portend, they lose everything that the Republican Party today stands for.

The Iraq war is the Republican Party today. It encompasses everything they are about. The Iraq War is fear-based, resulting in and allowing the war as an expression of racism, imperialism, militarism, opposition to the dirty anti-war hippies, while also standing for redemption for Nixon's removal from office and for fighting in Vietnam; then the war has become justification for doing away the Rule of Law and with Civil Rights in America. Finally, the war and everything related is all financed by extreme levels of political corruption which pleases the economic conservatives and libertarian conservatives.

On top of the other connections to Republicanism the location of the war in the Middle East suffuses it all with a patina of conservative Biblically-based religion. There really is an element of "the Crusader" included with the imperialism and militarism.

The Iraq War is the very core of the current Republican Party. Threaten the war and they are all threatened. They will do absolutely anything to keep the war.

23 posted on 07/18/2007 1:37:25 PM PDT by MurryMom
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To: NormsRevenge
"We have to get us out of a middle of a civil war" said Sen. Joseph Biden, D-Del

Can someone tell me what kosovo bosnia was.

24 posted on 07/18/2007 2:07:08 PM PDT by CONSERVE
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To: keepitreal
>> A political solution must be found "so when we leave Iraq, we don't just send our children home, we don't have to send our grandchildren back." Gee, Joe, when did we start sending first graders to war??? I'm sure our men love being called children. 9 posted on 07/18/2007 12:36:01 PM CDT by keepitreal <<

Biden's been in the Senate so long that any American under retirement age is a "child" to him.

25 posted on 07/18/2007 8:35:14 PM PDT by BillyBoy (FACT: Governors WIN. Senators DON'T. Support the RIGHT Thompson in '08: www.tommy2008.com.)
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