Posted on 07/18/2007 7:40:00 AM PDT by JKrive
The real reason behind President Bush's push for immigration reform, says author Jerome R. Corsi, is to unite the United States, Mexico and Canada by erasing borders and creating a "North American Union."
That is the theme of Mr. Corsi's new book, "The Late Great USA: The Coming Merger with Mexico and Canada," which says the Bush administration's "globalist agenda" is leading to a merger of the countries through the implementation of policies and laws to open trade barriers and renovate the highway systems in anticipation of increased travel within the new megastate.
Mr. Corsi said a growing number of Americans think the North American Union is being forced onto Americans. Government officials say the idea is no more than an unjustified conspiracy theory spread through the Internet.
Mr. Corsi said the impetus of the plan was the creation of the Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America, announced by leaders of the United States, Mexico and Canada at Waco, Texas, in 2005.
The White House-led partnership is a trilateral effort to increase security and enhance prosperity through greater cooperation and information sharing, according to the SPP's Web site (www.spp.gov).
The SPP is not a treaty or agreement, but the Web site calls it a dialogue among the countries and their leaders.
(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...
To be fair, all you did was post some bullet points from the official spp website. Not exactly a reliable source.
It’s not convincing.
We do have the historical record of the EU to go by, as well as a HUGE highway under construction right up our gullet. This spp thing is following in the EU’s footsteps.
and you have to post something other than SELF-SERVING propaganda.
FULL DISCLOSURE IS NOT FORTHCOMING BY THIS GOVERNMENT.
They refuse to release information.
Any court of law REQUIRES full disclosure on both sides. Not PROPAGANDA
get it?
Let’s take one of the examples posted above. In a court of law the fact that a highway is being built would probably be stipulated by both sides, but the accusation that it is part of a scheme to erase the national border would be subject to the regular rules of evidence.
In a court of law governed by our common-law system, I should add.
Let’s take the working groups.
They refused, even under FOIA, to release the names of people who are in the committees so that these people can be contacted and asked questions about what they are doing, either in writing, or by various other means.
Let’s take this meeting in Canada. It’s behind closed doors and those who are opposed to its meeting, such as representatives of Eagle Forum, are not allowed to get near the place so that 1) whomever is arriving can arrive in secret 2) whomever is attending cannot be asked questions.
Don't know what that has to do with our discussion, but I moved to the country years ago. I was threatened on here once by one of the ex-CIA agents when I got too close to the truth on who forged the yellowcake documents. The first story about the rogue CIA agents hit AP yesterday...I have known about it for years. Other than that, I am locked, stocked and loaded. But I am more worried about nuclear war than any NWO plot.
I dont get the animosity toward Corsi. He looks at the same stuff as Rep King or Rep.Tancredo.
Everyone rolls their eyes at WND any more, they have gone so far out on the limb to sensationalize stories that they no credibility here anymore. Most folks compare it to Debka.
It was McCain who tried to sneak the amnesty bill through the senate and had his head handed to him. He carried the Bushs water and now his campaign is stone dead.
Again...no relevance to our discussion. Besides, I can't stand McCain. The only redeeming factor he's got is that he stands with Bush on the troop withdrawal issue.
As I mentioned youll get to keep your job for about 18 months. Use the time well to look for another.
As I said, I work in the Aerospace/Aeromedical contracting sector. To be specific, the US Air Force is our customer, we do the R&D that helps keep our troops safe. I am totally confident that our troops will keep us safe from harm as well. I don't believe I have to worry about being murdered by the Buildaboogers.
Okay, so I’ll ask you...where are your credible sources?
It does change our courts. Our Supreme court will be regulated to the dust bin of history.
We can lead a horse to water but we can't make him drink.
Lots more wonderful than what happens when someone responds, "the information is out there, look it up yourself."
Double that bttt.
LOL--More like, "we can lead a horse to mud and tell him it's water, but he won't drink it."
At least I took the time to do a Google search and present what I found, that is more than any of you that have been answering me have done, you expect me to take your word as fact just because you say so. Ain't gonna happen.
Its not convincing.
Neither are your assertions without facts to back them up.
We do have the historical record of the EU to go by...This spp thing is following in the EUs footsteps.
This is not Europe and that crap won't fly here. If you can give me tangible proof, I will certainly join the revolution.
as well as a HUGE highway under construction right up our gullet.
A highway? That's your big conspiracy?
Come on guys, give a girl a break here...post your facts or give up.
{cue spooky music} Ooooooh....it’s a Secret, huh? Then why do you know every detail of what they are planning? LOL!
I do drink water, just not NWO koolaid.
I was threatened on here once by one of the ex-CIA agents when I got too close to the truth on who forged the yellowcake documents. The first story about the rogue CIA agents hit AP yesterday...I have known about it for years. Other than that, I am locked, stocked and loaded.
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I’ve stayed inside the beltway DC. Year after year neighborhood after neighborhood turns foreign. You can’t go into any government building offering government services and but feel like you’re the only american there. Foreigners have learned to totally game the system.
I’m sorry to hear you think the Plame biz was anything more than democratic fruitcakes in full tootie fruitie.
The write up on Corsi —which is the basis of this conversation—took place in the washington times. See above.
Apparently, according to those like you and rude boy, none of the following is credible, however, I can only laugh at your the continued moronic attempts to deny that the following information, actions, activities, documents, and ongoings add up to "nothing to see here, move along." An honest person cannot have read, and outright dismissed any of the following information, and continue to state that there is no plan for an NAU or that the Council on Foreign Relations is not deeply involved with its inception and promotion. Thank you, once again, for presenting the opportunity for me to, once again, repost the following information and documents so that lurkers can be informed.
For one to dismiss the charges being leveled against this Administration's and Pastor's, and thereby the CFR's, designs, they must REJECT ALL of the following:
The March 2005 Joint Statement of Presidents Bush, Fox and Prime Minister Martin, the March 2005 Waco meeting, the signing of the "Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America" (SPP), and the goals stated in the "Building a North American Community" (written by Dr. Robert A. Pastor, COUNCIL ON FOREIGN RELATIONS member) (pdf) file.
In the Joint Statement, it states, for instance:
our security and prosperity are mutually dependent and complementary. Its boundaries will be defined by a common external tariff [i.e., the perimeter of the entity now known as the "North American Community"] and an outer security perimeter [id.] within which [id.] the movement of people, products, and capital will be legal, orderly and safe.
This paragraph cannot be taken as an isolated statement of intent as there are many other similar statements and suggestions of same in numerous other documents and which expand upon that idea. It is yet another suggestion that there will be a NEW BORDER made, and militarily protected, around the entity now known as the "North American Community." By moving the militarily protected "borders" to the perimeter of THREE NATIONS, it is the clear intent that the three countries will have an almost indistinguishable INNER border between the three countries.
The suggestion is legitimate in that the beginning sentence states the entity's "security and prosperity are mutually dependent and complementary," as if it were one land, as if it has been melded into one country. Thus, the sovereignty of each country, Canada, the United States of America, and Mexico, has been removed.
My reading suggestions include the following documents:
1) Found at the COUNCIL ON FOREIGN RELATIONS website:
http://www.cfr.org/project/311/study_group_on_globalization_and_the_future_of_border_control.html
2) Written by D. Spingola: Building a North American Community, the Selling of America
by Deanna Spingola | 14 July 2005
3) Congressional testimony by Council on Foreign Relations member, Robert Pastor:
A North American Community Approach to Security
COUNCIL ON FOREIGN RELATIONS | June 9, 2005 | Dr. Robert A. Pastor
In February 2001, Fox and Bush jointly endorsed the Guanajuato Proposal, which read, "After consultation with our Canadian partners, we will strive to consolidate a North American economic community whose benefits reach the lesser-developed areas of the region and extend to the most vulnerable social groups in our countries." Unfortunately, they never translated that sentiment into policy (with the exception of the symbolic but substantively trivial $40 million Partnership for Prosperity).
4) Excerpt, from "Building a North American Community":
Develop a North American Border Pass. The three countries should develop a secure North American Border Passwith biometric identifiers. This document would allow its bearers expedited passage through customs, immigration, and airport security throughout the region. The program would be modeled on the U.S.-Canadian NEXUS and the U.S.-Mexican SENTRI programs, which provide smart cards to allow swifter passage to those who pose no risk. Only those who voluntarily seek, receive, and pay the costs for a security clearance would obtain a Border Pass. The pass would be accepted at all border points within North America as a complement to, but not a replacement for, national identity documents or passports.This has already implemented.
For information on "biometrics" used at the border, and what's been currently in place, see Western Hemisphere Travel Initiative, April 5, 2005
5) Read, also, all of the following:
Trinational Call for a North American Economic and Security Community by 2010
March 14, 2005 (obtained at the COUNCIL ON FOREIGN RELATION'S website) - Three former high-ranking government officials from Canada, Mexico, and the United States are calling for a North American economic and security community by 2010 to address shared security threats, challenges to competitiveness, and interest in broad-based development across the three countries.Former Canadian Deputy Prime Minister and Minister of Finance John P. Manley, former Finance Minister of Mexico Pedro Aspe, and former Governor of Massachusetts and Assistant U.S. Attorney General William F. Weld (MEMBER OF THE COUNCIL ON FOREIGN RELATIONS) make policy recommendations to articulate a long-term vision for North America in a Chairmen's Statement (English) (PDF) of the Independent Task Force on the Future of North America sponsored by the COUNCIL ON FOREIGN RELATIONS in association with the Consejo Mexicano de Asuntos Internacionales and the Canadian Council of Chief Executives. [One task force member is Dr. Robert A. Pastor]
"The COUNCIL ON FOREIGN RELATIONS, which has no affiliation with the US government and no institutional position on merging the US with Canada and Mexico, certainly managed get its agenda enacted. How did that happen?"
United States of North America
by Steven Yates | May 1, 2006
"The new architecture would include a free trade zone protected by a common security perimeter, within which goods, people, and capital would move freely across what had once been firmly established international borders."
The Plan to Replace the Dollar With the 'Amero' | May 22, 2006
Pastors 2001 book Toward a North American Community called for the creation of a North American Union that would perfect the defects Pastor believes limit the progress of the European Union. Much of Pastors thinking appears aimed at limiting the power and sovereignty of the United States as we enter this new super-regional entity. Pastor has also called for the creation of a new currency which he has coined the Amero, a currency that is proposed to replace the U.S. dollar, the Canadian dollar, and the Mexican peso. Commission for Labor Cooperation
The Council of Ministers of the Commission is supported by a Secretariat, whose staff is drawn equally from the three NAALC countries. It includes labor economists, labor lawyers and other professionals with wide experience in labor affairs in the region. They work in the three official languages of the NAALC English, French and Spanish in a unique multinational institution devoted to advancing labor rights and labor standards as an integral part of expanding trade relations.Located in Washington, D.C., the Secretariat also undertakes labor-related research and public information, and assists the member countries with their cooperative activities.
The official web site of the North American Commission on Environmental Cooperation.
Intermodal Association of North America
Information on the North American Trade Corridors
Conclusions of the U.S.-Mexico Migration Panel
Carnegie Endowment for International Peace/Global Policy
February 15, 2001
On February 15, 2001, the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace International Migration Policy Program hosted a breakfast briefing featuring three members of the U.S.-Mexico Migration Panel, which released a report on February 14 to U.S. President George W. Bush and Mexican President Vicente Fox including proposals to change and improve the relationship of the U.S. and Mexico regarding migration.
- | - The panel's report calls on the U.S. and Mexico to craft a "grand bargain" that would be mutually beneficial, make migration safe, legal, orderly, and predictable, and decrease migratory pressures over time. The report calls for a reconceptualization of the border as a "line of convergence rather than a line of defense."
A North American Community A Modest Proposal To the Trilateral Commission [pdf]
Toronto, Ontario, Canada
November 1-2, 2002 | Dr. Robert A. Pastor
MEMBER OF THE COUNCIL ON FOREIGN RELATIONS
Foreign companies would prefer to invest in the interior (where the workforce would be more stable), but the roads and infrastructure are inadequate. The World Bank estimates Mexico needs $20 billion a year for ten years, just for infrastructure. The three leaders should establish a North American Development Fund, whose priority would be to connect the U.S.-Mexican border region to central and southern Mexico. If roads were built, investors would come, immigration would decline, and income disparities would narrow. If Mexicos growth rate leaped to twice that of its neighbors, the psychology of the relationship would be transformed.
The North American Development Fund is a done deal. It's called the North American Development Bank.
The NADB was created by the United States and Mexico, under NAFTA, in a joint effort to preserve and promote the health and welfare of border residents and their environment.
At the North American Studies, you can peruse through a list of dozens of publications which provides relevant background information for
* Prepared Statements and Testimony
* Articles and Papers
* BooksOne of which is entitled, "The Future of North American Integration: Beyond NAFTA"
By: Peter Hakim (Editor) (MEMBER OF THE COUNCIL ON FOREIGN RELATIONS), Robert E. Litan (Editor)
The governments of Canada, Mexico, and the United States now must confront the question of whether NAFTA is enough. Do they want to keep their trilateral relationship focused on economic matters or are they interested in integrating more deeply-perhaps initiating a process to build a North American Community similar to the European Union?The North America's Superhighway Coalition (NASCO) (the corridor), connecting Canada, the U.S., and Mexico, as well as the planned Punta Colonet Project, which will likely shut down American ports in Long Beach/Los Angeles area, and possibly the Washington port:
Formed in 1997 [when Bush was Gov. of Texas], NASCO is a partnership of businesses and state and provincial governments in the U.S., Canada and Mexico focused on developing the international trade corridor based on I-35 from Laredo, Texas to Kansas City, Missouri and I-35, I-29 and I-80/I-94 north of Kansas City to the Canadian border.
North American Inland Port Network (NAIPN)
[founded in 2003 by NASCO members in Canada, US and Mexico] is a sub-committee of the North America's SuperCorridor Coalition (NASCO). NAIPN advocates the interests of Inland Ports along the International Mid-Continent Trade and Transportation Corridor (IMCTTC) and supports NASCO's mission to strengthen the Secure, Multi-Modal Trade and Transportation System.
2006 Texas Republican Party Platform
On Saturday, June 3, 2006, the Republican Party of Texas adopted their 2006 State Republican Party Platform. Under the first section of their platform, titled Preserving American Freedom, is a plank specific to the Trans-Texas Corridor. It reads:
"Trans-Texas Corridor Because there are issues of confiscation of private land, State and National sovereignty and other similar concerns, we urge the repeal of the Trans-Texas Corridor legislation." [page P-4]The NAFTA Corridors: Offshoring U.S. Transportation Jobs to Mexico
U.S. workers, who have seen so many lucrative manufacturing jobs moved overseas, assumed that import transportation and distribution jobs could not be offshored and were, therefore, relatively secure.Current transportation trends are proving labors assumption to be dead wrong. Sparked by organized resistance and wildcat actions by workers against falling wages and deteriorating working conditions at Americas ports and on the nations highways, the flow of container traffic is being shifted to a south-north orientation. By leveraging both the U.S. and Mexican governments and taking advantage of the terms of the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA), big capital is developing container terminals in Mexico and using that country as a land bridge and labor pool to deliver shipping containers to destinations in the United States at discount prices.
* * * Chart 1 signals the beginning of the assault on labor in the north, which could eventually result in the offshoring of hundreds of thousands of transportation jobs to the south and undermine the working class on both sides of the border significantly. The success of this offshoring scheme rests on the development of vast transportation corridors in the United States and Mexico and the extensive exploitation of Mexican labor to both construct and operate the system. The recently established NAFTA Railway (Transportación Ferroviaria Mexicana, Texas Mexican Railway, and Kansas City Southern Railway, merged under control of the latter), which began operations in the Lazaro CardenasKansas City Transportation Corridor in 2003, offers a preview of capitals offshoring plan in action.
Mexico plans an alternative to the jammed docks in L.A., Long Beach
By Diane Lindquist
Union-Tribune Staff Writer | August 14, 2005
As cargo clogs West Coast ports again this summer, Mexican officials and global shipping executives are getting ready to transform a remote bay 150 miles south of the border into a megaport to help relieve the Asian import glut.The sleepy, sweeping inlet of Punta Colonet in Baja California will be transformed into a multibillion-dollar container port, one of the biggest maritime transportation centers on the West Coast of North America, under a plan by Mexico's government.
Mexico plans a multibillion-dollar project to remake Punta Colonet, a desolate, sparsely inhabited inlet two hours beyond Ensenada, into a major container port on the scale of those at Los Angeles and Long Beach.
The new port in Mexico will require major road construction for connections to the Superhighway corridor. I can only presume where funding for that will come from (and it won't be from Mexicans or Mexico).
What do you think will happen to all the American jobs at the San Diego/Los Angeles ports when the Mexican port opens, the size of which will equal the Los Angeles and Long Beach ports? Imagine what will happen to the communities and surrounding areas which currently depend upon the income generated by those ports and the union workers (illegals cannot be part of American unions) of those ports. Where will all the young entry level workers go to find work when so many jobs will likely be "outsourced"? How many non-union businesses will be forced to close their doors because there's no longer a workforce (or families) to support their business (I'm thinking even of such businesses as restaurants, grocery stores, hardware stores, and clothing stores)? Will we continue to hear the same mantra that those were just "jobs Americans wouldn't do" so they're being shipped out to Mexico?
Then there's yet another upgrade to another port, closer to Mexico City, as stated in the following article (which is also referred to in the NASCO/NAIFN website: Strategic Agreements with Manzanillo and Lazaro Cardenas, Ports on the West Coast of Mexico):
Hutchison Ports Holdings to construct terminal at Mexican port
5/24/2006 | Intermodal
Hutchison Ports Holdings Group plans to spend $200 million to build a container terminal at the Port of Lazaro Cardenas, Mexico a project that could mean more intermodal traffic for Kansas City Southern de México S.A. de C.V. and its parent, Kansas City Southern. [KCS' North American rail holdings and strategic alliances are primary components of a NAFTA Railway system, linking the commercial and industrial centers of the U.S., Canada and Mexico.]The terminal is designed to handle 2 million containers annually. Hutchinson Ports expects the facility to handle 450,000 containers annually after the company completes the projects first phase next year. The terminals second and third phases will increase annual capacity to 850,000 containers and 1.7 million containers, respectively.
When you've finished reading the above, you're still not done reading. Most of the above information is no longer the most current, thanks to FOIA, which has forced the U.S. GOVERNMENT to release information and documents it was previously not disclosing.
A sane person cannot deny the implications of the aforementioned documents, cannot deny the mounting evidence which serves only to condemn the COUNCIL ON FOREIGN RELATIONS and those who are its members or affiliated with it. It is indeed, most especially obvious, through ROBERT PASTOR, the driving force behind these plans which include the creation of the "North American Union" and the erosion of U.S. sovereignty, incrementally and carefully planned, so that people who don't feel like informing themselves can disparage those who have and are, therefore, critically of the SPP, the NAU, the CFR, its plans, and those affiliated with the CFR, the SPP, and the furtherance of the previously documented actions.
You’ve already proven yourself to be a paid CFR shill.
I have no desire to continue reposting to you anything as all you do is parrot the script written for you by the CFR.
Government documents released by a Freedom of Information Act request reveal the Bush administration is running a "shadow government" with Mexico and Canada in which the U.S. is crafting a broad range of policy in conjunction with its neighbors to the north and south, asserts WND columnist and author Jerome R. Corsi.The documents, a total of about 1,000 pages, are among the first to be released to Corsi through his FOIA request to the Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America, or SPP, which describes itself as an initiative "to increase security and to enhance prosperity among the three countries through greater cooperation."
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