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Something brewing in Israel
eye on the ground | July 18 2007 | American in Israel

Posted on 07/17/2007 10:56:59 PM PDT by American in Israel

Just a freeper observation, but there are strong indications that next week, during the time of the 9th of AV, that there will be a serious Arab attack on Israel.

The word on the street from the local Palestinians is to quote from a few "There will no longer be a Zionist problem in Palestine this month." Nobody is really talking, but I am getting veiled warnings from Palestinian friends. One such warning was a rather cryptic answer to a pointed question about war with Israel; "Do you know what the 9th of Av is? Every time Israel fights a war on the 9th of Av it looses"... People refuse to talk about war or answer any direct questions. This is very uncharacteristic for Palestinians; usually they are very verbally expressive. The following is what got me to finally write this note to you all. It is an excerpt from an email sent to me by a friend.

Today we had business to do in Jerusalem, so we left our home at 7 am and traveled down the east side of the Galilee, through Bet Shean and past the check point at Sede Trimot in the Jordan Valley.

Once we entered the Jordan Valley as we passed through the Arab agricultural areas we noticed the following which is most unusual;


1. There were no people visible working the in the fields. 2. There were no children along the side of the road.
3. There were no tractors or other farm vehicles anywhere to be seen.
4. All of the vegetables had been completely harvested and the fields were 100% empty.
5. No preparation of the fields was evident for the next planting...Plastic was everywhere from the prior crop.
6. The greenhouses had no plants in them..... 7. The vegetable stands that are normally filled to the brim from the harvest were completely vacant.
8. This is the peak season for growing vegetables in the Jordan Valley, yet everything had been harvested and nothing was growing waiting to be harvested or picked.

We concluded our business in Jerusalem and got back on the road again about 2:45 pm heading north up the Jordan Valley. Again, no people, no fruit stands, no crops, nothing!
Do these Arabs know something is about to happen that we do not know is coming? The 9th of Av is on July 23rd, which is the exact day both Temples in Jerusalem were destroyed hundreds of years apart...

This is just not how things are this time of year normally. The entire valley is the best land for growing crops in Israel and completly under the control of the Arabs. This land is the Palestinian food supply. For some reason they do not believe they need the food this year!

A friend of mine that is politicaly connected mentioned that he was thinking that the first attack date for the Arab League may be the 9th of AV, and the Sept/Oct period as the backup date. He does not believe that Syria will be ready by next week, so he thinks they will use the fall back date. However Hamas/Fatah have their people totally prepared for the first date. They may jump, even if Syria gives the no signal.

As a Biblical side reference, Isaiah 14 28-33, and Zephaniah 2 refer I believe to the destruction of the modern day Palestinians. Interestingly enough it says: " I will kill thy root with famine, and he shall slay thy remnant.." Zehpaniah 2 indicates that the industrial city of Ashkelon, (third largest city in Israel I believe), will be wiped out, but that a smoke cloud from its direction will go over Gaza, and I think kill most of the inhabitants there. Ashkelon is due north of Gaza and just a kassams throw away.

This is just a few various observations I am bringing together, but they ominously point to the same thing, a major Palestinian ground offensive may take place just next week.


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Israel; War on Terror
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To: winodog

I don’t consider that certain.

I think the USA will choose—as it has under Bush increasingly and worse under Klintoons . . . likely to be worse again under BILLARY . . . were the evil one to get back in power . . .

short changing Israel and demanding unreasonable things of Israel in favor of the interlopers and suicidally ruthless . . .

Or

The USA may be prevented from helping Israel by other priorities or incapacities.

I do believe that Israel will be utterly lacking in support at a key point and facing utter destruction . . . until God Almighty and HIS SUPERNATURAL armies come to her defense and rescue.

I do not believe that The Lord will allow anyone but Himself to be Israel’s chief Champion at some point in these END TIMES.

Certainly the implication in Scripture is that all the Nations of the world are out for Israel’s blood, neck, existence. But there’s some wiggle room . . . only those countries engaging in such risk severe retribution from The Lord—that implies some won’t or at least won’t so wholeheartedly.

If the NWO folks trash the USA wholesale as seems to be increasingly their script and setup—to allow the NWO Global Government to reign supreme and unchallenged . . . I doubt the USA will be doing much but struggling to survive as a fractured desperate shadow of it’s former self.

If the NWO folks meld the highly black ops and technologies of the UFOS etc. into the World Government in a seamless transition sort of way—say turning the NORTH AMERICAN UNION into the global government by gestapo enforced fiat . . .

THEN I would expect the USA to go against Israel. But it would not be the USA that we have known, at that point . . . but then it already is not anything remotely close to The Constitutional USA designed 200+ years ago.

Great question. We shall see.

Your opinion?


221 posted on 07/18/2007 6:37:45 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: American in Israel

bttt


222 posted on 07/18/2007 6:40:35 PM PDT by firewalk
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To: Joya

How come prophets never talk in plain language. I never did that well in desciphering the meaning of passages in English class. I just never got it.


223 posted on 07/18/2007 6:54:14 PM PDT by Vermont Lt (I am not from Vermont. I lived there for four years and that was enough.)
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To: Anti-Hillary

Where are the sacrifices required by the people of Nineveh in the Book of Jonah?

Hint: Non-Jews are not required to offer sacrifices of any kind!


224 posted on 07/18/2007 7:17:28 PM PDT by hlmencken3 (Originalist on the the 'general welfare' clause? No? NOT an originalist!)
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To: Anti-Hillary

“I was rather making a comment on my sincere belief that the church today, based on my personal experience, is very lacking in knowledge and hunger of knowledge regarding the second coming and the events therein for a myriad of reasons.”

“Sorry you are misguided in your thoughts on what I believe. You could not be further from the truth on the subject.”

How can I be misguided or could not be further from the truth on what you believe concerning your first quote? You haven’t stated specific beliefs. I will admit freely that I used to believe what mainstream Christianity purports today and honestly after looking at the Scriptures I found way too many areas that I could not find a Scriptural basis for that belief. The fact that you have beliefs in this area is not something I am contending with whatsoever as I freely admit I don’t know. I also understand that as individuals in the body of Christ have long suits in certain areas that should be tapped by those who aren’t familiar with them. I have read many end times prohecies that are so far fetched with using the Scriptures in a very haphazardly way. I am not suggesting that your beliefs in this area are wrong just because I don’t know them. It’s just an area God has not worked in my heart to ferret out or has led me to search out for. Yet. Right now there are other matters I am learning and seeking further truth in.

There are a number of areas doctrinally accepted by mainstream Christianity that I know by Scriptures are wrong. I don’t do the judging but rather the Scriptures do. I definitely do believe it is a believer’s right to call into question doctrinal errors or wrong practice of doctrine to Christians. And in no way am I for tolerance theology. That is a scourge to Christianity and leads Christians down a dark road.

“I will NEVER hesitate to point out sin, heresy, and apathy within the body when I see it.”

I belonged to an organization where a significant number of people believed and practiced this. It wasn’t long before I saw their actions were mostly just that, their actions. Not actions that were inspired of or by revelation of the holy spirit.

As I believe you have exerted yourself to learn end times prophecies to help wipe out the lack of knowledge in it the holy spirit field is one of my main interests to do the same. If you so desire I would honestly like to hear whatever you have to say concerning end times prophecies. However long or short. I sincerely mean this.


225 posted on 07/18/2007 7:34:46 PM PDT by jwh_Denver (In the Rise and Fall of United States I hope the Fall part is more than one chapter.)
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To: Quix
I think Lucifer is pulling out everything he has. DC is a cesspool of demonic spirits and it pulls this once great nation into damnation. The train to hell is accelerating downhill and the dems and the reps are shoveling coal as fast as they can.
I can clearly see them ushering America into the one world economy, with one currency and one religion, just as John saw in the last book of the Bible. Theres no doubt in my mind that the parasites in the swamp will blame Israel when the time comes and send forth any army we have left against Gods chosen people.

Or that yellowstone super volcano could blow triggering earthquakes and more volcanoes and china or russia could send some nukes to finish us and the USA could go up in a cloud of vapor. That could even fit into what John saw.

I just think its awesome to watch Gods word being unveiled as the blind stumble headfirst.

226 posted on 07/18/2007 7:41:31 PM PDT by winodog
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To: winodog

I think Lucifer is pulling out everything he has. DC is a cesspool of demonic spirits and it pulls this once great nation into damnation. The train to hell is accelerating downhill and the dems and the reps are shoveling coal as fast as they can.
I can clearly see them ushering America into the one world economy, with one currency and one religion, just as John saw in the last book of the Bible. Theres no doubt in my mind that the parasites in the swamp will blame Israel when the time comes and send forth any army we have left against Gods chosen people.

Or that yellowstone super volcano could blow triggering earthquakes and more volcanoes and china or russia could send some nukes to finish us and the USA could go up in a cloud of vapor. That could even fit into what John saw.

I just think its awesome to watch Gods word being unveiled as the blind stumble headfirst.

= = =

imho,

you are FARRRRR tooooo correct for the least bit of comfort on the part of true and perceptive patriots at all.

Prayer alone can influence such horrid issues, at this point. Fasting and prayer, I should say.

Thanks for your good post.


227 posted on 07/18/2007 8:01:55 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: American in Israel

I appreciate you’re keeping us “in the loop.” Israel is precious to God, and an island of civilization that must be protected at all costs. All costs.


228 posted on 07/18/2007 8:11:29 PM PDT by Theo (Global warming "scientists." Pro-evolution "scientists." They're both wrong.)
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To: Quix

And the puzzle pieces are all building to precisely that.


so you believe the (largely) pondscum from Eastern Europe who deny the divinity of Christ are the “Israel” of the OT.

Tis to laugh.....


229 posted on 07/18/2007 8:13:44 PM PDT by MK11
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To: MK11

Evidently the propagandists have done their job well for that assertion to have any influence with anyone.

Thankfully, God knows who the authentic blood children of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob are.

He also knows who calls them pond-scum.


230 posted on 07/18/2007 8:24:54 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: Quix

Since I’m a Lutheran with ecumenical college classes in the Bible, I hadn’t paid much attention to Old Testament prophecies until my own personal increased studies of late.

They’re uncanny. The Revelation of John is almost unreadable, but Daniel and the “minors” are downright reinforcing.

Not sure about DC, but I’m with G-d’s Chosen to the end of my days.

Fear knocked on the door, Faith answered, and no one was there.


231 posted on 07/18/2007 8:26:02 PM PDT by IslandJeff (Hey, Jihad Joe - guess what: we're coming to get you. - D. Mustaine)
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To: Theo

Agreed.

Though I believe that at some point . . . Almighty God will be very fierce to insure that

Israel sees GOD AND GOD ALONE

AS HER SOLE EFFECTIVE PROTECTOR, HIGH TOWER, ALL IN ALL.


232 posted on 07/18/2007 8:26:06 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: Ancesthntr

God governs our universe and has seen fit to offer us a pardon. †


233 posted on 07/18/2007 8:33:55 PM PDT by bondserv (God governs our universe and has seen fit to offer us a pardon. †)
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To: American in Israel

This sounds just like France. Every time France fights a war on the 9th of Av, it looses also.


234 posted on 07/18/2007 8:35:18 PM PDT by Rembrandt (We would have won Viet Nam w/o Dim interference.)
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To: IslandJeff

Praise God for His faithfulness.

Some things are SOOOOOOOOOOO PLAIN in those prophecies. Others are hidden . . .

But throughout history, God has fulfilled HIS prophecies to the nth degree literally.

It is the same today.

Praise God for His showing you such truths and for you being open enough to receive them!

Thankfully, there are more than a couple dozen people—Lutheran missionaries and their children—formerly in Taiwan who now also know such truths. God has been faithful to make Himself more real and tangibly involved in their daily lives than they ever dared imagine.


235 posted on 07/18/2007 8:41:33 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: American in Israel

Ping for later. We are in the season of the Baskelisk go and google it. Too lengthy of explaination here.


236 posted on 07/18/2007 8:41:38 PM PDT by Armed Civilian ("Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice, moderation in pursuit of justice is no virtue.")
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To: American in Israel

Ping for later. We are in the season of the Basilisk go and google it. Too lengthy of explaination here. sorry I misspelled Basilisk re-post


237 posted on 07/18/2007 8:43:00 PM PDT by Armed Civilian ("Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice, moderation in pursuit of justice is no virtue.")
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To: winodog

Winodog! I pinged you to the Atlantis shuttle landing and you never showed up :(


238 posted on 07/18/2007 8:44:33 PM PDT by txhurl (90o is the only way to get thru this crap)
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To: American in Israel

Thanks for all your efforts.


239 posted on 07/18/2007 8:44:55 PM PDT by 185JHP ( "The thing thou purposest shall come to pass: And over all thy ways the light shall shine.")
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To: Quix

It’s not impulse - it’s “informed intuition”. Or the Holy Spirit at work. Either one is fine by me, theologically.

I used to just write off End Timers as benevolent whackjobs, but that was back in the 80’s. Like a Thief in the Night, the World has suddenly set itself up as It Was Written.

Praise the Lord, but I gotta give something back. Maybe to Israel?


240 posted on 07/18/2007 8:46:09 PM PDT by IslandJeff (Hey, Jihad Joe - guess what: we're coming to get you. - D. Mustaine)
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