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Statesman McCain - Senate Floor a few minutes ago
NRO ^ | 7/17/07

Posted on 07/17/2007 1:10:06 PM PDT by bnelson44

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To: bnelson44

Senator McCain “get’s it” in regard to the WOT/Iraq - His comments today on the Senate floor are outstanding and he should be given thanks for stepping up and saying such....


21 posted on 07/17/2007 1:49:00 PM PDT by SevenMinusOne
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To: bnelson44
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Does anyone here think that the Demokratz would not be pulling the same surrender stunt had we concentrated all our efforts and losses in Afghanistan and on the hunt for Obama Bin Biden like they've screeched about for years now? Any war longer that lasts longer than a doobie at a MoveOn.org convention is too long. Any price to defend our freedom is too high for these weak sisters and their leaders Reid, Levin, Leahy, Durbin, Kennedy, Schumer, Clinton, ...pardon me I have to vomit now.

22 posted on 07/17/2007 1:49:35 PM PDT by bikerMD (Beware, the light at the end of the tunnel may be a muzzle flash.)
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To: bnelson44

BUMP


23 posted on 07/17/2007 1:52:01 PM PDT by ulm1 ( the terrorists are in this war to win it. The question is: Are we?)
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To: wildbillo0o

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19694666/page/3/

SEN. GRAHAM: When they re-enlist in the highest numbers anywhere else in the military, they’re speaking...

SEN. WEBB: You know, this is one thing I really—this is one thing I really take objection to...

SEN. GRAHAM: ...the soldiers are speaking, my friend. Let them win.

SEN. WEBB: ...is politicians who—at the...

SEN. GRAHAM: Let them win.

SEN. WEBB: Politicians who—may I speak?

SEN. GRAHAM: They want to win, let them win.

SEN. WEBB: Is politicians who try to put their political views into the mouths of soldiers. You can look at poll after poll, and the political views of the United States military are no different than the country at large. Go take a look at The New York Times today.

SEN. GRAHAM: The soldiers...

SEN. WEBB: Less than half of the military believes that we should be in Iraq in the first place.

SEN. GRAHAM: Have you been to Iraq? Have you ever been and talked to them? I’ve been seven times.

SEN. WEBB: You know, have you ever been to these—I’ve been—I’ve covered two wars as a correspondent...

SEN. GRAHAM: Have you been to Iraq?

SEN. WEBB: I have been to Afghanistan as a journalist.

SEN. GRAHAM: Have you been to Iraq and—have you been to Iraq and talked to the soldiers?

SEN. WEBB: You know, you haven’t been to Iraq.

SEN. GRAHAM: I’ve been there seven times.


24 posted on 07/17/2007 1:57:34 PM PDT by BillyBoy (FACT: Governors WIN. Senators DON'T. Support the RIGHT Thompson in '08: www.tommy2008.com.)
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To: bnelson44
Mr. President, this fight is about Iraq but not about Iraq alone. It is greater than that and more important still, about whether America still has the political courage to fight for victory or whether we will settle for defeat, with all of the terrible things that accompany it.

I'll settle for McStain's defeat in the primary. Followed by the leftwing mayor.
25 posted on 07/17/2007 2:09:58 PM PDT by George W. Bush (Rudy: tough on terror, scared of Iowa)
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To: Chuck54
I don’t think any of those 9/11 terrorists came across our southern border.

They didn't, but there is a fair amount of evidence (trash with Arabic writing, etc) that the next batch of terrorists has already come across our southern border.

26 posted on 07/17/2007 2:14:57 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Trust but Verify

Snowe-job is one of those Greek Americans the Spartans would have ridiculed—a shameful traitorous female.


27 posted on 07/17/2007 2:22:46 PM PDT by eleni121 (+ En Touto Nika! By this sign conquer! + Constantine the Great)
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To: sheana
If he wants to leave the back door open to our nation, even go so far as inviting them in, then how the heck is he right on this issue?

Either you are serious about defending the nation or you aren’t. He can’t have it both ways. Same goes for any other politician who blubbers on about the WOT while refusing to defend our borders.

Exactly.

28 posted on 07/17/2007 2:43:19 PM PDT by c-b 1 (Reporting from behind enemy lines, in occupied AZTLAN.)
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To: eleni121
Snowe-job is one of those Greek Americans the Spartans would have ridiculed—a shameful traitorous female.

I agree with everything up to the last word. She's no female.

29 posted on 07/17/2007 2:44:24 PM PDT by Trust but Verify
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To: sheana
MeCain is such an idiot!

If he'd only towed the Conservative Line and not try to be such a suckup to Big Media and the likes of Ted Kennedy, he would have actually had an opportunity to fulfill his dream of being President!

The guy actually thought that working with Democrats and opposing The President would gain him favor with Big Media and get him crossover and moderate voters.

He has only himself to blame!

The Conservative Base did not leave him, he left us!

30 posted on 07/17/2007 2:49:02 PM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: BillyBoy

I liked Lindsey Graham until he called me a racist, it’s ashame he hitched his wagon to that Nut MeCain.


31 posted on 07/17/2007 2:54:25 PM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: wildbillo0o

Were it not for McCain-Feingold and his stand on the Immigration/Shamnesty Bill, McCain would still be in the chase.

Depending on what happens between now and January ‘08, I still think there is a chance Johnnie Boy just might pull it off in New Hampshire. We’ll just have to wait and see. I’m no fan of McCain, BTW.


32 posted on 07/17/2007 2:56:08 PM PDT by no dems (If there is no pressure, there is no change.)
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To: sheana
If he wants to leave the back door open to our nation, even go so far as inviting them in, then how the heck is he right on this issue?

Oh, please. We could put the highest wall on the border and a million troops, and AQ would still get in if they wanted. Hundreds, if not thousands of AQ are getting across the desert from Iran to Iraq today, and we've got the troops and equipment and ability to use deadly force, and it still doesn't stop them.

You can make the argument that it would be a bad idea to invite the entire population of mexico into the US, but the argument that the border is some kind of security threat is just dumb.

The 9/11 terrorists got into the country while the southern border was at it's most porous, but they came in through the front door, international airports.

If there is a border security threat, it's not mexico, it's Canada.

McCain's got his serious faults and supported some dumb stuff. But accusing him of not being serious about defending the nation because he wanted to change the immigration laws is off the mark.

33 posted on 07/17/2007 3:00:41 PM PDT by narby
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To: bnelson44

http://searchwarp.com/swa234018.htm


34 posted on 07/17/2007 3:13:02 PM PDT by DBCJR (What would you expect?)
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To: Chuck54
I just find it hard to see why many find the WOT and the immigration issue to be one and the same. The real fight is the WOT and I would be glad to debate what is our second greatest threat.

I don’t think any of those 9/11 terrorists came across our southern border.

Straight up.

And therein lies some hypocrisy in the folks who claim their fight about the southern border is because of the fear of terrorists coming over it - Attah and his companion came over the border in my state - and were here a few days before they boarded the plane in Portland.

They spent some time above Portland scoping out Brunswick Naval Air Base - and drinking in local restaurant/bars...even using their credit cards.

Flame me all you want, Johny One Notes, but a lot of the furor and heat over the southern border, while not a peep about the northern border, smacks more of "just don't like Mexicans"

Have fun.

The libRAts played the border issue to the hilt - the masses, even the republicans, took the bait and the eye off the real ball - the WOT. They "taught" the republicans "a Lesson" by letting the devil back in control...all the while, dancing to the devils tune.

I"m not saying the border/illegals aren't a serious problem - but if we don't win the WOT, it isn't going to much matter.

WOT is our first order of business

35 posted on 07/17/2007 3:33:20 PM PDT by maine-iac7 ( "...but you can't fool all of the people all the time." LINCOLN)
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To: TexasCajun
>> I liked Lindsey Graham until he called me a racist, it’s ashame he hitched his wagon to that Nut MeCain. << <<

What's amazing is that all the freepers here who whine about Graham committing "treason" by "hitching his wagon to McCain" and supporting a "path to citizenship" for illegal aliens seem to have absolutely no problem when Fred Thompson has the "exact" same record in the Senate and was McCain's best buddy. You point it out to them and instead of screaming "treason" at FDT, they shrug their shoulders and go "nobody's perfect"

Apparently it's only "treasonous" for Lindsey Graham to vote that way.

They might have more credibility if their "outrage" over amnesty and McCain-Feingold was consistent, no matter WHO votes for it.

36 posted on 07/17/2007 3:37:36 PM PDT by BillyBoy (FACT: Governors WIN. Senators DON'T. Support the RIGHT Thompson in '08: www.tommy2008.com.)
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To: maine-iac7
I"m not saying the border/illegals aren't a serious problem - but if we don't win the WOT, it isn't going to much matter.

WOT is our first order of business.

My sentiments E X A C T L Y.

37 posted on 07/17/2007 3:44:14 PM PDT by Chuck54 (“If you want to be successful, put your effort into controlling the sail, not the wind.”)
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To: TexasCajun

On a “Path to Citizenship” for ILLEGAL Aliens

FRED THOMPSON: I think that you have to realize that you’re either going to drive 12 million people underground permanently, which is not a good solution. You’re going to get them all together and get them out of the country, which is not going to happen. Or you’re going to have to, in some way, work out a deal where they can have some aspirations of citizenship”
REPORT: http://www.latestpolitics.com/blog/2007/05/fred-thompson-no-restrictionist.html

On Republican Leadership in Washington

FRED THOMPSON: “When it comes to personal courage and integrity and the courage to do what he thinks is right, regardless of whether or not it’s particularly popular at the moment, John McCain has shown characteristics of leadership like no one else I’ve ever seen. When it comes to reform of the way Washington does business, John McCain is the leader”
REPORT: http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/stories/1999/08/18/president.2000/thompson.mccain/


This is the guy who has a ton of “true conservative” freepers not only worshipping his Senate “record”, but actively working to promote to leader of the free world.

Let me know when freepers start howling about Fred being a “treasous RINO” and McCain’s homosexual lover, and then I’ll start taking their protests about Lindsey Graham’s seriously.


38 posted on 07/17/2007 3:46:43 PM PDT by BillyBoy (FACT: Governors WIN. Senators DON'T. Support the RIGHT Thompson in '08: www.tommy2008.com.)
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To: bnelson44
Unfortunately, such speeches are not even listened to by the Senate. Politicians have already wet their fingers, stuck them into the liberal wind, and arrived to the debate with minds wide shut. When are the rest of the GOP senators going to start pointing fingers, kicking asses and naming names? Is collegiality so precious that it is to be bought at the price of more dead GIs and a more vulnerable US?
39 posted on 07/17/2007 3:48:48 PM PDT by Natural Law
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To: BillyBoy
You are correct. Same rules for everyone!

I'm leaning toward Duncan Hunter.

40 posted on 07/17/2007 3:54:51 PM PDT by TexasCajun
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