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Property-rights dispute
The Washington Times ^
| July 17, 2007
| Sonya D. Jones and John R. Lott Jr.
Posted on 07/17/2007 5:48:39 AM PDT by 3AngelaD
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This is frightening. At least the administration came down on the side of the property owners. Bush was right to fire the guy.
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posted on
07/17/2007 5:48:39 AM PDT
by
3AngelaD
To: 3AngelaD
they are not a government agency and are therefore not subject to the laws of the United States and its ConstitutionCool! I'm not a government agency either! The law can't touch me!
To: 3AngelaD
If you give Leus an exception, then you have to give everyone else an exception.
To: 3AngelaD
The simple fact that this egomaniacal “organization” can claim “position for life” and “not subject to the laws of the US constitution” is grounds to have the SOB(s) taken out and shot.
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posted on
07/17/2007 5:57:12 AM PDT
by
xcamel
("It's Talk Thompson Time!" >> irc://irc.freenode.net/fredthompson)
To: 3AngelaD
Bush was right to fire the guy. Shhhh... you don't want the Democrat Party to hear that! They might suggest the firing was illegal :)
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posted on
07/17/2007 5:57:21 AM PDT
by
pnh102
To: Ben Ficklin
If you give Leus an exception, then you have to give everyone else an exceptionAn exception to what?
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posted on
07/17/2007 5:58:35 AM PDT
by
VeniVidiVici
(Conservatives are educated. Liberals are indoctrinated.)
To: 3AngelaD

Walter Peck found a new job!
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posted on
07/17/2007 6:00:25 AM PDT
by
frithguild
(The Freepers moved as a group, like a school of sharks sweeping toward an unaware and unarmed victim)
To: Ben Ficklin
Bingo. I’m not a lawyer but I learned that the word “precedent” is very important, even in the by-laws and covenants of HOAs.
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posted on
07/17/2007 6:03:11 AM PDT
by
leadpenny
To: 3AngelaD
Okay. Bush’s firing of Schornack has restored me to his alliance—but only tepidly; I’m still waiting for the pardon of the Border Patrol Agents.
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posted on
07/17/2007 6:04:13 AM PDT
by
Savage Beast
("History is not just cruel. It is witty." ~Charles Krauthammer)
To: Ben Ficklin
An exception to their private property rights? Without notice? For a harmless wall? Hello? In fact, I think we should be encouraging people who live along the border to build walls, not punish them. But here is a “multi-national” commission that does not recognize the rights provided in our Constitution, run by an egomaniac. I’d say this is a pretty good place to take a stand, and so did the president.
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posted on
07/17/2007 6:04:21 AM PDT
by
3AngelaD
(They screwed up their own countries so bad they had to leave, and now they're here screwing up ours)
To: 3AngelaD
"Schornack's hardheaded approach unfortunately justifies people's worst fears about government."YOU BET!
And what's really stranger than fiction is that millions of Americans are working overtime to INCREASE the power, reach, and appetite of burocrats and of the Frankenstein's monster known as the Federal Government!
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posted on
07/17/2007 6:09:52 AM PDT
by
Savage Beast
("History is not just cruel. It is witty." ~Charles Krauthammer)
To: 3AngelaD
“Ideologue”? I *like* ideologues! Here’s what the fired man said:
“To Mr. Schornack, the dispute is largely one of too much fealty to property rights. “I’m not an ideologue, and it seemed to me that I was being demanded to adopt the ideology of the Justice Department.” He claims that the Justice Department lawyers “are on basically amission to pare back what they see as government intrusion intoprivate property.” The problem? That treaty the IBC relies upon for its authority does not actually authorize the regulation of that 20-foot-wide zone. Even so, Mr. Schornack and the IBC set a deadline for the Leus to remove their retaining wall, otherwise the IBC would do it themselves.”
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posted on
07/17/2007 6:12:30 AM PDT
by
hocndoc
(http://ccgoporg.blogspot.com/)
To: 3AngelaD
Despite the fact that the IBC claims to be authorized to regulate and control the use of private property within the United States, Mr. Schornack and the IBC actually responded that they are not a government agency and are therefore not subject to the laws of the United States and its Constitution. The Justice Department asked to take over the case and negotiate a compromise that considers the couple's private property complaints. But the commission claimed that, as an international commission, it was not obligated to compromise on the issues. Mr. Schornack needs a good flogging, followed by being run out of town on a rail. And the Dems still want the UN to run the world.
To: Ben Ficklin
If you give Leus an exception, then you have to give everyone else an exception.An exception to what? I've read this article a few times, and I really don't understand the claims of this "commission." The fact is that the wall was built well within the boundaries of their property. Is the commission stating that their authority over property is, in effect, an easement well onto their own property?
What really pisses me off is the attitude of the US representative, in saying a) that he's got the job for life and can't be fired, and b) that they're not a government commission, and therefore not subject to laws or the Constitution.
IMHO, if an international entity is operating on US soil, it's subject to the laws of the US. Since these people are NOT diplomats, no diplomatic immunity is assumed.
Mark
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posted on
07/17/2007 6:14:18 AM PDT
by
MarkL
(Listen, Strange women lyin' in ponds distributin' swords is no basis for a system of government)
To: pabianice
Why did you omit the tar and feathers? Seems to me Schornack is a prime candidate for that part of the treatment.
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posted on
07/17/2007 6:19:36 AM PDT
by
3AngelaD
(They screwed up their own countries so bad they had to leave, and now they're here screwing up ours)
To: frithguild
Maybe he didn’t say the ‘magic word’.
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posted on
07/17/2007 6:21:35 AM PDT
by
waverna
To: Savage Beast; xcamel
Okay. Bushs firing of Schornack has restored me to his alliancebut only tepidly; Im still waiting for the pardon of the Border Patrol Agents.
Bush did good on this. Should have made more press out of it.
Now if he would pardon Ramos, Compean, and Gilmer Hernandez, and fire all those incompetents that allowed the situation to deteriorate to this point, he could do good.
If President Bush would realize there is a conservative base that would support him when he moves right (pard the pun) he has all kinds of opportunity to "create a legacy". Needs to quit loving illegals, and do the country right on the border, and he would be hailed a leader, rather than where he is standing now in regard to everything having a shadow, because he is ignoring "his base".
To: Savage Beast
“Okay. Bushs firing of Schornack has restored me to his alliancebut only tepidly; Im still waiting for the pardon of the Border Patrol Agents.”
No worries, Dianne Feinstein’s working on that one.
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posted on
07/17/2007 6:24:09 AM PDT
by
JZelle
To: 3AngelaD
...simply come onto their property, remove their wall and then
send them the bill. be removed by the local coroner.
There, fixed it.
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posted on
07/17/2007 6:24:19 AM PDT
by
NY.SS-Bar9
(DR #1692)
To: Issaquahking
Dennis Schornack needs a year in jail, in general poulation, always knowing that one year after entering the jail, he will die by firing squad. Bet the guy is a democrat, doing BS that conservatives refuse to do...
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