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To: ctdonath2; Eaker; humblegunner; thackney; Squantos; GulfBreeze

To all...

Be very carefull what we are hoping for in this case...

Again, the U.S. Supreme Court is not a lock on this issue...Regardless of the “4 horsemen” on our side of the issue...

If the courts opinion that the 2nd Amendment is a “Fundamental Right”...Its all over...You’ll see bans, restrictions, infringements, confiscations from here to Christmas...And we’ll never get it back unless the ultimate trigger is pulled...

Now...After the scary side of this has sunk in...There is a bright side to this...

“IF” the 2nd Amendment is reaffirmed that it is an “individual” right...I believe it would be imperative that the court solidify it by an opinion that it has always been an “inalienable” right...There is no higher authority or justification...

That point needs to be re-iterated as the argument for the “individual right” gains momentum...

Hopefully it’ll go our way...But nothing is certain these days...


300 posted on 07/18/2007 8:47:59 AM PDT by stevie_d_64 (Houston Area Texans (I've always been hated))
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To: stevie_d_64
Please elucidate your distinction between a "fundamental" and an "individual" right.

It has been agreed even by liberal law golems like Prof. Tribe of Harvard and Alan Dershowitz, that 2A is indeed an individual right, and that personal RKBA is also buttressed, and bound to the States, by 14A's "privileges and immunities" clause, which I haven't noticed being discussed here. (I think Tribe and Dershowitz were quietly, and interlinearly, making a point that 2A, from the liberal POV, needs to be repealed outright.)

And don't forget the "and bear" part.

Problem is, Hillary's coming, and SCOTUS may break precedent by reading an election outcome (courtesy of WaPo, of course) that hasn't even happened yet. In which case we descend into becoming a one-armed "people's republic".

301 posted on 07/18/2007 9:46:23 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: stevie_d_64
Understood, but trumped by a widespread desire that SCOTUS issue a definitive ruling on the case, so that the issue may move forward accordingly. We've been waiting on the "third box" for a very long time, and wish to get on with moving to either the second or fourth boxes.
315 posted on 07/18/2007 1:31:32 PM PDT by ctdonath2 (The color blue tastes like the square root of 0?)
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