Actually I have been trying to stick purely with QM. Non locality does seem to be a contradiction between QM and Relativity, but it appears that time and distance are relative and better understanding will probably clear up the differences. We just need another genius to come along and then we will all say that it was obvious ^_^
It is one thing to use them scientifically for a bounded result in a particular context and another to generalize them beyond the universe itself to God who stands outside of the universe and is its creator. Can't you imagine a God that stands outside of your physical limitations and your lack of knowledge?
Anything can be imagined, is that your point? I can imagine pink unicorns. Does my imagining make it so? You can imagine an all knowing being who intently watches your every move and knows your every thought. Does that make it so?
Be intellectually honest. Don't you see that this Heiseberg Uncertainty argument applied to God is bogus?
No. It is testable and predictive. God should be as good.
If no, which is correct Relativity or Quantum Mechanics, and why? Can you provide mathmatical, publishable proof, or will you admit they do not jibe and so are incomplete theories in contradiction.
I will certainly admit to the incompleteness but not the contradiction. If you can demonstrate the transmission of useful information at faster than the speed of light then I will admit the contradiction. If you look at it from the stand point of the wave/packet moving at the speed of light. the distance and time factors are resolved.
Let me know when you've worked out the theory of everything and I'll calculate God along with you . . . though I do think it will take an awfully big blackboard.
Why don't you just admit that God isn't absolutely Omniscient and the Universe will make a lot more sense ^_^ Freewill becomes possible, rebellion against God becomes possible, etc. God can still know with certainty the outcome, what will be new to him is the path.
“Anything can be imagined, is that your point? I can imagine pink unicorns. Does my imagining make it so?”
In a “limitless possibilities” universe based upon uncertainty, yes. Anything that CAN exist, will. Of course, that gets into “alternate dimensions” and all that.
So they are incompatible, but you believe them both, and assume that someone will make them compatible.
The Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle is testable. God isn't (paraphrased)
But the Uncertainty Principle is incompatible with another testable theory, that of relativity. God is testable, of course, just on a personal level.
You still don't see the problem in applying incomplete, inconsistant theories to God and claiming that the theories limit God himself?
Put another way, you hold two mutually inconsistent beliefs about reality, believe that they can be reconciled (by someone else), and yet assert categorically that one of those beliefs limits God himself.
When I ask you if you can imagine a God that stands outside of the natural, created universe, you talk about Pink Unicorns, and somehow compare the two, but beg the question. Can you concieve of a God outside of space and time? If you can, do you see that this God would not be limited in the same way that we are by space and time? If you don’t see it . . . harrumph to you!